Re: The Lionel Messi Appreciation Thread & Fan Club II

[neuro11]

cant believe Suarez jump had been inch perfect from messing up with such a beautiful goal...lol

[neuro11]

Athletic bilbao players after final...

Markel Susaeta: "He's the most decisive player in football today. What he did tonight was spectacular".

Ibai Gómez: "So long as Messi wants to win trophies, it'll be hard for Barça to ever lose...There will never be another player like him".

Aymeric Laporte: "Messi ran amok".

Iago Herrerín: "He scores against the best goalies in the world, so how could he not score against me? His first goal was crazy; we can't do anything to stop players like that".

[sree999]

[Myesyats]

Chiellini said Messi couldn't score those goals against Italian defences.... Well, Giorgio, I'd pick my words wiser if I was in your place.

It didnt turn out well for Neuer after saying he will show Messi who's the boss.

[Myesyats]

Messi (44) is the player with most accurate Liga through balls in the last two seasons # Isco has second most, 24 [via @whoscored]

ffs, unbelievable

[Harmonica]

Messi Top 10 goals for Argentina

[eelir]

An interesting analysis of Messi's goal against Athletic

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=intl:2479343

[Harmonica]

CL 14-15

Most goals Messi 10
Most assists Messi 5
Most dribbles Messi 92
Most chances created Messi 36
Most throughballs Messi 14

Top 3 dribbling performance's in CL since 09-10

92 Messi 14-15
79 Messi 10-11
57 Messi 09-10

[Harmonica]

Messi completed 10 dribbles in Champions League final yesterday, one less than all other 27 players combined (11)

[Harmonica]

Messi became the first forward and only 7th player in CL-era to play every game of league and CL season.

14-15 Lionel Messi FW, Barcelona, 51 (38+13) WW

09-10 Philipp Lahm RB, Bayern München, 47 (34+13) WR
04-05 Jamie Carragher DF, Liverpool, 51 (38+13) 5W
01-02 Hans-Jörg Butt GK, Leverkusen, 51 (34+17) 2R
96-97 Stefan Klos GK, Dortmund, 45 (34+11) 3W
94-95 Michael Reiziger DF, Ajax, 45 (34+11) WW
94-95 Clarence Seedorf MF, Ajax, 45 (34+11) WW

[Harmonica]

Paolo Maldini - "Messi makes the difference. I think he reached and surpassed the level of Maradona. He does incredible things, at a speed that is insane."

Stoichkov - "Messi is one rung higher on the ladder than Maradona, Cruyff and Pele"

Alfio Basile - "I'm the only one who's coached both Messi and Maradona. No one has ever coached both of them. I've got the world record there. Two world-wide stars. But I always say Messi is a real extraterrestrial, cause at the speed he goes with the ball glued to his feet I haven't seen nor will ever see someone like that. He does every play as if he was watching it from the stands. As soon I saw him with the young team, I thought 'this is a serious thing, this guy will be the best player in the world'. Because it's incredible. If you watch him in a practice, by your side, he does things wich are incredible to be done for a human being!"

Xavi - "Messi is the best player in the world, and for me the best ever. Just 27, still getting better. He's only competing against himself. He's the smallest, but he's the best at everything, even in the air. Messi is a phenomenon. I'm not about to say anything new. What Leo has been doing is amazing. He's even the best at defending. When he puts pressure on the full-backs, he wins the ball back. He's the best at everything, no matter what he does."

[free_cat]

He was very good in the CL final participating in all three goals, just was a bit unlucky/not sharp enough in several plays so he couldn't round it with a deserved goal. He made a couple of plays that could well have been an homage to Chiellin's words :

Should have shot in that first chance after dribling Pogba and Evra...

[ahmad25]

Yes he should have shot after evra

[The Franchise]

Think the defender (Bonnuci?) blocked off the left foot shot, would have simply hit him. He didnt so much close the space of the dribble, but stand directly in the angle Messi wanted for the shot to the second post.

Impossible to be sure without being exactly where Messi was, but the body position of the defender looks to me to be what that was.

[ahmad25]

It was Pirlo but knowing Messi i think he shoots when he is 90% sure it will result with goal. When its 50/50 he doesnt shoot (if he sees a little space to dribble)

[The Franchise]

No, not Pirlo. That wasnt stopping him shooting..the defender in front of him who follows him when he dribbles right and out of play.

[free_cat]

Pirlo is extremely aphatic in that play. If Messi shoots to the far post and scores would have been all hist fault for barely moving.

[neuro11]

I agree that his view was well blocked. Buffon's condition when reached near the line though

[Ganso]

[Harmonica]

Paolo Maldini - "Messi makes the difference. I think he reached and surpassed the level of Maradona. He does incredible things, at a speed that is insane."

Stoichkov - "Messi is one rung higher on the ladder than Maradona, Cruyff and Pele"

Alfio Basile - "I'm the only one who's coached both Messi and Maradona. No one has ever coached both of them. I've got the world record there. Two world-wide stars. But I always say Messi is a real extraterrestrial, cause at the speed he goes with the ball glued to his feet I haven't seen nor will ever see someone like that. He does every play as if he was watching it from the stands. As soon I saw him with the young team, I thought 'this is a serious thing, this guy will be the best player in the world'. Because it's incredible. If you watch him in a practice, by your side, he does things wich are incredible to be done for a human being!"

Xavi - "Messi is the best player in the world, and for me the best ever. Just 27, still getting better. He's only competing against himself. He's the smallest, but he's the best at everything, even in the air. Messi is a phenomenon. I'm not about to say anything new. What Leo has been doing is amazing. He's even the best at defending. When he puts pressure on the full-backs, he wins the ball back. He's the best at everything, no matter what he does."

Ronald Koeman - "Messi is best player ever. Some say Pele, Cruyff or Maradona, but none of them was as decisive as Messi."

[jibers]

In terms of decisiveness only Gerd muller can compare tbh. Shame he didn't score in the final though.

[DuringTheWar]

In terms of decisiveness only Gerd muller can compare tbh. Shame he didn't score in the final though.

Hmm never scored in 6 world cup knockout games, joint most decisive player ever. Let's hope he can have at least one memorable moment in 2018, it would be rather embarrassing if the most decisive player ever played 4 world cups and not one knock out goal.

[Donuts]

what's more embarrassing is getting a 15 month suspension for doing crack during your career.

[Harmonica]

In terms of decisiveness only Gerd muller can compare tbh.   Shame he didn't score in the final though.

Müller is a great shout, also Rossi for World Cup.

World Cup Career

Matches (Won - Drawn - Lost)

Pele 14 (12 - 1 - 1) = 86% win
Schillaci 7 (6 - 0 - 1) = 86% win
T.Müller 13 (11 - 1 - 1) = 85% win
G.Müller 13 (11 - 0 - 2) = 85% win
Ronaldo 19 (16 - 0 - 3) = 84% win
Eusebio 6 (5 - 0 - 1) = 83% win
Messi 15 (12 - 1 - 2) = 80% win
Romario 8 (6 - 2 - 0) = 75% win
Cruyff 7 (5 - 1 - 1) = 71% win
Klose 24 (16 - 6 - 3) = 67% win
Maradona 21 (14 - 2 - 5) = 67% win
Zidane 12 (8 - 3 - 1) = 67% win
Rossi 14 (8 - 4 - 2) = 57% win
Charlton 14 (8 - 2 - 4) = 57% win
C.Ronaldo 13 (6 - 3 - 4) = 46% win
Kempes 18 (8 - 4 - 6) = 44% win

Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)

Messi 18 (5 + 6 + 7) out of 22 team goals = 82% (+1 SO goal)
Rossi 17 (9 + 3 + 5) out of 21 team goals = 81%
G.Müller 22 (14 (1p) + 6 + 2) out of 30 team goals = 73%
Cruyff 11 (4 + 4 + 3) out of 15 team goals = 73%
Romario 8 (5 + 3 + 0) out of 11 team goals = 73% (+1 SO goal)
Eusebio 12 (9 (4p) + 2 + 1) out of 17 team goals = 71%
Schillaci 7 (6 (1p) + 1 + 0) out of 10 team goals = 70%
Pele 22 (12 + 8 + 2) out of 37 team goals = 59%
Maradona 19 (8 + 8 + 3) out of 32 team goals = 59% (+1 SO miss and goal)
Kempes 17 (6 + 6 + 5) out of 30 team goals = 57%
T.Müller 18 (10 (1p) + 6 + 2) out of 34 team goals = 53%
Zidane 9 (5 (2p) + 2 + 2) out of 17 team goals = 53% (+1 SO goal)
Ronaldo 21 (15 (1p) + 6 + 0) out of 41 team goals = 51% (+1 SO goal)
Klose 20 (16 + 3 + 1) out of 42 team goals = 48%
C.Ronaldo 6 (3 (1p) + 2 + 1) out of 16 team goals = 38% (+1 SO goal)
Charlton 6 (4 + 0 + 2) out of 20 team goals = 30%

[Harmonica]

Treble winning Barcelona 14-15 (League+UCL) Messi had

most games 51 (45 Neymar)
most goals 53 (32 Neymar)
most assists (wide) 29 (20 Suarez)
most dribbles 267 (131 Neymar)
most chance's created 131 (76 Neymar)
most throughballs 48 (11 Iniesta)
most passes 3173 (2820 Busquets)

League+CL Messi had

most games 51 (48 Kroos)
most goals (excl. pen) 48 (45 Cronaldo)
most assists (wide) 29 (23 Fabregas)
most dribbles 267 (232 Hazard)
most chance's created 131 (116 Hazard)
most throughballs 48 (23 Silva)

The best, most dominant and most complete individual season of all-time.

[futbol]

Messi: "Moving to wing? I knew the position and it was logic I played there and not Suarez, who's one of the best strikers in the world."

Starting to sound like Harmonica. Messi is actually Harmonica.

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