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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri May 08, 2015 8:24 pm

So what you're saying, is Russo is behind the Benoit incident





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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 08, 2015 8:28 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:It was Bischoff who wanted NWO at the top. He even fired Austin from WCW. Laughing

Russo's plan when he joined was to push the younger talent like Benoit, Eddie, and Booker T and to phase out the old guard. Booker T won his first World title while Russo was head writer.


Argument is invalid because

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Post by Onyx Fri May 08, 2015 8:34 pm

Possibly. He probably has a hand in the yes movement as well, because had Benoit not have been pushed, his diving headbutt/cross face wouldn't have been as popular, thus Bryan may not have incorporated variations of those moves into his moveset, therefore not being the goat he is today. hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 08, 2015 8:35 pm

I can't get mad at someone who has a knack of making things better imo hmm
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Post by Onyx Fri May 08, 2015 9:04 pm


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Post by M99 Sat May 09, 2015 1:03 am

Russo's ridiculous overbooking had a major hand in WCW's demise...everyone knows that. He made the show a joke. Of course a lot of things killed WCW and Russo was supposed to save them, he just made things go worse. Screw him and his stupid booking.
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Post by RealGunner Sun May 10, 2015 12:05 am

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Post by M99 Sun May 10, 2015 1:26 am

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Post by zizzle Sun May 10, 2015 5:17 pm

Russo is right. I love great ring workers but i dont want 3 hours of wrestling. Sad thing is that the wrestling is one of the only good things on the show coz most of the promos and storylines suck. So if the WWE cant provide good entertainment they might as well through in good wrestlers to make the show more tolerable
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Post by Onyx Mon May 11, 2015 6:32 pm

Injured WWE Intercontinental Champion Daniel Bryan is scheduled for tonight’s WWE RAW from Cincinnati. This will be Bryan’s first appearance since the April 16th SmackDown.

Bryan is also booked for the Payback pay-per-view next Sunday.

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Post by fatman123 Tue May 12, 2015 5:09 am

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Post by silver Tue May 12, 2015 10:58 am

Elimination Chamber and KOTR on the Network...Screams of desperation, the same desperation that made WCW show Goldberg-Hogan on Nitro instead of PPV.

Don't they realize the more "short term" fixes they create, the worst they will be in the long run. It's like what Paul Heyman said, if you have Christmas every day, it's no longer special. If you keep throwing these gimmick ppvs around with no build, no storylines and a complete throwaway, the gimmicks no longer have any meaning. Same as all these throwaway Shield matches. If you keep showing Ambrose-Rollins on Raw, no-one will buy a PPV with them headlining.
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Post by Casciavit Tue May 12, 2015 2:03 pm

Ambrose the peoples champ Proud

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Post by M99 Tue May 12, 2015 7:49 pm

So Bryan is on the brink of retirement...
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Post by Onyx Wed May 13, 2015 7:16 pm

Dat World champion. In b4 WWE goes out of business.

"There was concern backstage at RAW during the main event with how many fans were leaving during the main event match between Seth Rollins and Randy Orton. It wasn't thousands of fans leaving, but there was enough fans leaving to get Vince McMahon's attention.

McMahon ordered that the camera's are not to shoot at angles that might show empty seats in the arena."

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Post by RealGunner Wed May 13, 2015 7:37 pm

Look at the ratings lol. They have been lowest for years. It's not a surprise tbh
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Post by silver Thu May 14, 2015 9:16 am

Meh. Better than when Cena was champion.
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Post by M99 Thu May 14, 2015 9:22 am

There was a Cincinatti Reds match going on in the arena next to where RAW was happening. Only a small number of people, all of them familes with little children left to beat the traffic.

But yeah twist the information to fit the agenda of hating on the wrestlers you dislike. It's like Wrestlemania 30 which saw half the number of buys that WM 29 did proved Bryan was not a draw for his haters here as Cena drew double the numbers but the fact that 700,000 people saw WM on WWE Network making it have even more legal watchers than WM29 was completely ignored to fit the agenda of hating on Bryan.

It's not the worst ratings in years, it has the same rating as 2012 in this time. There is always a spring slump because of playoffs season.
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Post by Onyx Thu May 14, 2015 12:44 pm

If the product was good, they wouldn't be leaving at all imo, especially not during the main event.

May 2014 to May 2015 has been the worst year in WWE history.

Rollins being champion really doesn't help either, considering he's nothing more than an upper midcarder who really isn't good enough to be World champion.

Put the title on Bray Wyatt, Ambrose or Sandow and people will watch, because they're all legit entertainers.

I mean look at his booking ffs, he's in jobber territory. Let alone his bland personality, why would anyone take a World champion with that record seriously? Laughing

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Post by Freeza Thu May 14, 2015 12:51 pm

Who the hell would watch Sandow. Poverty wrestler with gimmicks like cartoon. They ruined him years ago.

The problem isn't Rollins. It's the WWE have no guts or creativity when it comes to storytelling. There are no trust in the writers, so they don't have the guts to take risks, so they're going for the "safe" option, which is the same old shit being forcefed to us for the last 5 years.
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Post by Onyx Thu May 14, 2015 1:13 pm

Imo Sandow's way better than Rollins, just needs a serious gimmick and a proper push.

Would actually take Super Cena in the main event over the 2 shield scrubs and Boreton.

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Post by Freeza Thu May 14, 2015 1:18 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Imo Sandow's way better than Rollins, just needs a serious gimmick and a proper push.

Would actually take Super Cena in the main event over the 2 shield scrubs and Boreton.


You do know you can have more than 3 main eventers, despite what WWE have been doing these few years. The ME scene in the attitude Era waslike 20% of the roster.

The creative team can't build up wrestlers anymore though. They forgot how the business works. You're really just hating on Rollins unnecessaryly, not really his fault that WWE aren't giving him better chances to shine. By far one of the best performers in WWE and they still keep shit booking him.
No one in WWE gets that heels can actually beat someone clean....
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Post by M99 Thu May 14, 2015 1:26 pm

May 2014 to May 2015, the champions were Bryan, Lesnar Cena and Rollins. Yet it'sa ll Rollins's fault. Seems legit.

Also Boreton? Seriously? He has been amazing since his face turn. Last time he was this good was 09 Viper arc.
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Post by Onyx Thu May 14, 2015 1:36 pm

Didn't say it was completely his fault. The product was shit even before he was champ.

But I'd rather watch Cena/Reigns getting booed, or the crowd hijacking shows for Bryan/Punk, over Rollins as champ.

There's no controversy or spark with Rollins as champion. It's just a standard WWE heel champion and a generic storyline.

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Post by Onyx Thu May 14, 2015 1:38 pm

And nah, I don't want to see Orton main eventing in 2015 unless he drastically changes his character. Before long he's going to get booed again.

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