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Post by RealGunner Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:47 pm

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:52 pm

disgrace of a team tbh
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Post by Chumlum Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:56 pm

This Man City implosion is crazy. It will be interesting to see how things get shaken up over the next few months, manager and squad wise.

Ashley Young, he's been having performances that have been his best since that period when Man Utd paid a bunch of money for him from Villa, no?
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Post by Harmonica Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:00 pm

Had ManU winning (-2), then at 4-1 their player gets injured and they have no subs and ManC comes one back, luck has abanded me this weekend. Mad
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Post by Harmonica Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:01 pm

RealGunner wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCZ-F1GW0AAJ7SM.jpg
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Post by Glory Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:12 pm

despite those offside goals that scoreline as a matter of fact flatters citeh. Owned them. United of old Proud

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Post by RED Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:18 pm

Battered them.

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Post by Glory Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:17 pm

Since there arent many citeh fans around these parts, here ..a response hijacked from Bluemoon for the ones who feel they are missing the Fun. Proud A good popcorn read.

I don’t even know where to start.

If you analyse this season you can split it in to three very clear segments.

1. August through to November.
This period acted as a nice prelude to the rest of the season: losing to Arsenal in the Community Shield, losing at home to Stoke in the League, going out of the Capital One Cup at home to Newcastle and nearly capitulating completely in Europe by failing to record a single win in our opening four group games.

2. November through to December.
Without doubt the pinnacle of our season. We won every game during these two months except for two: a draw against Burnley in the League and a loss to CSKA in Europe. Somehow we managed to claw back the gap against Chelsea and scrape through our group in Europe.

3. January to now.
Our record: Played 17 Won 6 Draw 3 Lost 8
This includes a humiliating FA Cup exit to Middlesbrough at home and two convincing defeats against Barcelona.

It just speaks for itself. This period now is the worst it has been since the takeover in 2008. I could accept Hughes drawing 8 in a row, we still had Kelvin Etuhu and a whole host of average players. This is unacceptable in the strongest possible way.

I just want to break down our transfer spending since Txiki Begiristain arrived at the club in October 2012.

Fernandinho £30,000,000
Sagna Free
Fernando £12,000,000
Demichellis £2,500,000
Negredo £20,000,000
Jovetic £22,000,000
Navas £15,000,000
Caballero £6,000,000
Lampard Free
Zuculini £3,000,000
Mangala £32,000,000
Bony £28,000,000

Total expenditure £170,500,000 in three years, on twelve players. From the above players only three were in the first eleven today: Fernandinho, Navas and Demichellis, the rest were signed by Garry Cook and Mancini. Any City fan who has the cheek to claim Financial Fair Play has hampered us is deluding themselves. Whilst we spend the night away on average squad players, we are releasing players for free in most cases.

Carlos Tevez £10,000,000
K.Toure Free
Pantillimon Free
Lescott Free
Barry £2,000,000
Nastasic £6,000,000
Richards Free
Guidetti Free

The club is being ran in a shambolic way by the Director of Football and our manager. This regression started soon after Garry Cook left. Can we entrust £150,000,000 to rebuild this team with these two baboons? All of the evidence suggests we would be insane to do so. The funny thing is, some City fans on Bluemoon will actually support Pellegrini through this and anyone that wants him sacked will be sneered at by a select few. We’ve got executives coming out saying we will always play attractive football win lose or draw, don’t make me laugh, the football is turgid, unattractive and lacks any intensity.

Today, Burnley, Palace, Stoke, Newcastle, Middlesbrough. I’ve actually been ashamed of the teams performances in all of these games. The players out there, every last one of them except Aguero and Silva have displayed this season that they don’t have the heart to play for this club. It’s going to be a tough summer but Yaya, Kolarov, Dzeko, Jovetic and Lampard will all have to leave. If it was fiscally possible I would also be binning Fernando and Sagna. Kompany and Zabaleta I will give the benefit of the doubt but only because they have been loyal servants to us and I seriously blame Pellegrini for our shambolic defending. Lopez, Pozo, Denayer will all have to play squad parts next season if we run out of money. They might not be good enough but we’ll never blood them if they are out on loan every year. I’d rather play a shit academy player than a shit £12,000,000 player like Fernando.

Another thing that has beat me down is the absolute apathy emanating from the club. No urgency from the board to take action, backing the teams performances whilst we slide down the table, Pellegrini saying we are playing well when we’ve won 6 in 17, the fans not caring when we get leathered in Europe. Everything about the club just radiates “who gives a shit?” This is personified by the absolute wankers who ring 5Live, TalkSPORT and GMR and say “well at least we don’t have to play Barnet in League 2 anymore, I was there you know!!!”

I’m losing track here but I am absolutely fuming at our slide from the best team in England, with a serious opportunity to begin a dynasty stretching out for years, to being out fought by wank players like Young, Fellaini, Blind, Smalling and Jones. Every single person at the club should be ashamed of themselves tonight and the fans should demand better by demanding this pudding of a manager is sacked before he takes us right out of the top 4 with his 442 shit.

Thanks for the memories but this side and management structure must be dissembled. Khaldoon, do the business and get rid of the DoF and the manager and move heaven and earth to install Ancelotti and give him full control.


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Post by Chumlum Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:02 pm

It is ridiculous to see that expenditure on players over the last three years. If you're going to pay that kind of silly money regularly, you've got to deal in that kind of nonsense on the selling side, too. (By way of contrast, Chelsea, to give the devil its due, have been excellent at this.)

I actually think Man City have a strong squad with a lot of excellent players. Spending that much money on the likes of Fernandinho, Mangala, Bony, etc., is loony but that doesn't mean they're bad players at all. I know that the tendency, when a team is in a slump, is always to write off the players as "average" or worse, but in truth, big teams can get stale quickly. There can be a domino effect. That's a pattern that we'll continue to see, anywhere & everywhere. A well-run club will aim to always keep evolving at a healthy pace. With the right tinkering, Man City can jump right back into the elite next season.

(Not that I'm rooting for them to do so.)
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Post by B-Mac Sun Apr 12, 2015 11:39 pm

Laughing that bluemoon post....calling Blind wank when hes superior at 2 positions then your starters

better DM then Fernando and Fernandinho
better LB (his unnatural position) then Clichy and Kolarov

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Post by Glory Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:25 am

B-Mac wrote:Laughing that bluemoon post....calling Blind wank when hes superior at 2 positions then your starters

better DM then Fernando and Fernandinho
better LB (his unnatural position) then Clichy and Kolarov

Proud


yea Laughing they are just super butthurt. man ! Proud Dont take these BSs seriously hence.

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Post by Glory Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:44 am

Chumlum wrote:It is ridiculous to see that expenditure on players over the last three years. If you're going to pay that kind of silly money regularly, you've got to deal in that kind of nonsense on the selling side, too. (By way of contrast, Chelsea, to give the devil its due, have been excellent at this.)

I actually think Man City have a strong squad with a lot of excellent players. Spending that much money on the likes of Fernandinho, Mangala, Bony, etc., is loony but that doesn't mean they're bad players at all. I know that the tendency, when a team is in a slump, is always to write off the players as "average" or worse, but in truth, big teams can get stale quickly. There can be a domino effect. That's a pattern that we'll continue to see, anywhere & everywhere. A well-run club will aim to always keep evolving at a healthy pace. With the right tinkering, Man City can jump right back into the elite next season.

(Not that I'm rooting for them to do so.)


Not in the next season at least. Not with the FFP regulations in place. entire team needs a total revamp. Not a simple tinkering by any means.
Will have to replace Toure, Kompany, Clichy/Kolarov, Milner(who will leave), Navas. Meaning 5 starting positions if they want to get back into the elite next season itself. Need upgrades in at least 4 of those 5 positions. And they wont get any considerable money from player sales as well. Unless they decide to sell someone like an Aguero.

Will take some time now for them to recover from this fall. Unless and until some special manager take the job from pellegrini in the summer.
The main problem with city players is their lack of motivation. They won the title, these set of declining players last season. So they have become Who cares in their attitude. If someone can quash that and reignite the fire then theres a chance. But how many elite coaches will be available to take up the job thats the problem.

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Post by Glory Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:05 am



fellaini with his GF. Laughing

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Post by nasir6371 Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:17 am

Meh, Pellegrini only insuring that he will get sacked once the season is over. Counting the games left til I never see Toure in a City shirt Proud

Looking forward to the summer transfer and Copa America.
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Post by Glory Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:00 am



:bow: Bloody Brillaint !! Laughing

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Post by jibers Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:28 am

nasir6371 wrote:Meh, Pellegrini only insuring that he will get sacked once the season is over. Counting the games left til I never see Toure in a City shirt Proud

Looking forward to the summer transfer and Copa America.


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Post by Glory Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:14 am

"Possible solution if feasible and not unrealistic, is sell Nasri, Dzeko and Toure to fund a Paul Pogba or Ross Barkley and Jordan Henderson deal and sell Navas and Kolarov to fund a Gareth Bale deal."

Shocked Quote from a citeh fan.

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Post by The Franchise Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:35 am

Better solution would be to not open up oceans of space in between the lines and second to that, work of the defensive positioning of the back 4.

The space was incredible.
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Post by Unique Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:19 am

you can allways tell when man u win. Wink
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Post by Gil Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:04 am

Thoughts on Eden Hazard Dani? Ready to concede defeat and accept he's ascended into the Top 5 on the planet after this season?
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Post by nasir6371 Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:12 am

MR BOND wrote:you can allways tell when man u win. Wink


First derby win since 2012 can do that to you.
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Post by Adit Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:53 am

Shouldve brought Hazard instead of Bale. For 100 million irrespective of Chelsea's status the deal was very much possible.
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Post by The Franchise Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:11 am

Gil wrote:Thoughts on Eden Hazard Dani? Ready to concede defeat and accept he's ascended into the Top 5 on the planet after this season?

I dont get why your asking my opinion, it shouldnt hold any value to you.

In any event, he still isnt better than Messi, Cristiano, Robben, Ibrahimovic, Neymar, Aguero, Benzema, Suarez and maybe im forgetting someone...so no, not this mythical top 5.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:15 am

De Bruyne is having a better season tbh
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Post by RealGunner Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:45 pm

He isn't even better than Ozil or Sanchez.
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Post by Helmer Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:11 pm

Not Hazards mistake that he has to play with other inconsistent scrubs at Chelsea. I am sure as soon as he leaves Chlesa to join Bayern or some other team, he will improve his class ten fold.

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