Re: ISIS terror attacks around the world

by Hapless_Hans Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:23 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:
rwo power wrote:
El Messico wrote:The people who blame Islam - how exactly are moderate Muslims expected to react? That's what I don't understand.
IMO it would be a step that all moderate Imams spread the info that people who abuse the Islam like this will burn in hell and won't gain any 72 or so women in Paradise?

If these extremists are brainwashed by religious motives, counteract this with widespread publications that use religious imagery in connection with how Allah would despise them for their deeds and punish them in the afterlife etc.? Maybe this could be an idea to try?

Muslims already do more than the West to combat ISIS. Who do you think is on the frontline and containing ISIS in the Middle East? America? Russia? lol. If you are unaware it is actually the Kurdish fighters (99% muslim) who are giving all they have to push back ISIS. Out numbered and out gunned and still unlike the young Arab men cowardly fleeing Syria they are holding their ground.

The Kurdish people are the heroes we need. A large part of the Kurdish resistance includes many female fighters. And I find it very thrilling knowing that these female warriors are kicking ISIS' asses and are eliminating their rights to "72 virgins". WIN WIN. Baffles me why America does not send nearly enough supplies to the Kurds.

Because of Turkey of course. The PKK has been put onto the terror list of most European countries due to Turkey's lobbying.

Turkey was actually BOMBING Kurdish fighter recently. They don't get the help and assistance they deserve because the West doesn't want full on conflict with Turkey over the issue.

by S Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:35 pm

One of the attackers has/had a Syrian passport apparently.

by RealGunner Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:43 pm

The attackers decided to take passports with them to attack lol?

by EarlyPrototype Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:44 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:
rwo power wrote:
IMO it would be a step that all moderate Imams spread the info that people who abuse the Islam like this will burn in hell and won't gain any 72 or so women in Paradise?

If these extremists are brainwashed by religious motives, counteract this with widespread publications that use religious imagery in connection with how Allah would despise them for their deeds and punish them in the afterlife etc.? Maybe this could be an idea to try?

Muslims already do more than the West to combat ISIS. Who do you think is on the frontline and containing ISIS in the Middle East? America? Russia? lol. If you are unaware it is actually the Kurdish fighters (99% muslim) who are giving all they have to push back ISIS. Out numbered and out gunned and still unlike the young Arab men cowardly fleeing Syria they are holding their ground.

The Kurdish people are the heroes we need. A large part of the Kurdish resistance includes many female fighters. And I find it very thrilling knowing that these female warriors are kicking ISIS' asses and are eliminating their rights to "72 virgins". WIN WIN. Baffles me why America does not send nearly enough supplies to the Kurds.

Because of Turkey of course. The PKK has been put onto the terror list of most European countries due to Turkey's lobbying.

Turkey was actually BOMBING Kurdish fighter recently. They don't get the help and assistance they deserve because the West doesn't want full on conflict with Turkey over the issue.

You are indeed very right, however it's a "mystery" where ISIS get their support from. They are consistently provided with what they need. So I don't seen how a few anonymous supply drops to the Kurds can't be easily pulled off. If America wanted it to happen without anyone knowing, they could. It's frustrating because the US is meant to have a strong relationship with the Kurds.

Speaking of Turkey, have you seen that clip showing Turkey sending weapons hidden among medical equipment to ISIS?

by S Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:04 pm

Among the 300 wounded, 99 are critically injured.

by RealGunner Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:18 pm

At a news conference, Paris prosecutor Francois Molins says 129 people were killed in Friday's attacks and another 352 injured.

by S Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:24 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995541/Paris-terror-attacks-isil-suspects-arrests-victims-live.html

by sportsczy Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:26 pm

ISIS overtook the arms caches of the Iraq army when they invaded... they're also getting support from Saudi Arabia indirectly. And there are plenty of "gun runners" who will sell to anyone with cash.

If you've been to Africa and Middle East, you know how easy it is to get in and out of countries. Heck it's relatively easy in the US so you can imagine in a 3rd world country.

by sportsczy Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:26 pm

Of course, David Luiz and Edinson Cavani would "prefer" not to return to Paris... what cowards. As if anyone gives a crap about them.

by S Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:29 pm

RealGunner wrote:The attackers decided to take passports with them to attack lol?

Well apparently they found a Syrian passport lying beside an attacker's dead body , born in '88 but they are not sure the attacker is from Syria.They speculate it could be potentially fake.

by sportsczy Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:36 pm

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Lass' cousin was one of the victims...

by rwo power Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:38 pm

@Robespierre: THx!

What I absolutely not understand is how those insane murderers of ISIS still manage to lure people and make the believe into their goals then...

Particularly young muslim girls that are somehow lured by romantic promises and then are doomed to become slaves and birthing machines for these slaughterers... One should think they would have heard enough of these horrors in the media etc by now!

by VivaStPauli Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:45 pm

For RWO, at least there's some of what you want: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/terror-in-paris-muslime-verurteilen-anschlaege-mit-notinmyname-a-1062861.html

by sportsczy Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:48 pm

http://www.espnfc.com/french-ligue-1/story/2712535/antoine-griezmanns-sister-escapes-bataclan-theatre-attack

Griezmann's sister was at the Bataclan (the club with 100+ deaths) during the attack and was able to escape...

by halamadrid2 Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:22 pm

Wasnt Martin Kelly there too before managing to escape

by RED Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:41 pm

Go full force, wipe them off the face of the earth. what other options are there.

R.I.P to those in Paris and Lebanon killed by these evil scum. I hope anyone bearing any ill thoughts towards Muslims (generally speaking) realizes that these scumbags are killing more Muslims...(not trying to make it seem as though it's a competition, just saying).

by Kaladin Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:49 pm

RED wrote:Go full force, wipe them off the face of the earth. what other options are there.

If it was only as simple as that

by Freeza Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:49 pm

Going into war with them will only make them bigger and stronger.

by sportsczy Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:10 pm

France's Hollande stated today that these attacks "are an act of war by ISIS." France has declared war on ISIS. First time this rhetoric is used...

Not how that translates, we will see. They have sent the largest French aircraft carrier and 2 nuclear subs towards Syria today and it will take a few days for them to get there.

The French don't really have the moral/ethical hangups that the US does... if they decide to really go at it, it's really not a good thing. There will be a lot of innocent bystanders that will get sacrificed.

by The Demon of Carthage Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:19 pm

They are being funded by extremely wealthy psychopaths.

Here's a teeny, tiny example of how wealthy these rats are: A couple days ago, a group of ISIS terrorists were arrested in a small town in South of Tunisia with weapons, drugs and..get this...3 mil euros. If a small group has this amount of cash, think about how much their higher-ups have.

They are not working alone. These psychopaths have very powerful people funding and arming them.

by Pedram Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:19 pm

How do you declare war on terrorists though, these people have no nation, they're driven by their sick ideology.

by Art Morte Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:38 pm

They cannot be defeated with bombs and bullets. Some of them can be killed with those, but on the other hand that also breeds more terrorists. It's an awful war to have, because they're not physically in just one place, they are not within borders of one country, and you cannot tell exactly who is and who isn't one of them.

If Syria and the Middle East in general stabilizes on its own accord, then this problem might fade away. But bombs will not stop this.

by sportsczy Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:41 pm

They want to get rid of the training grounds and the fact that they have a "state" through which they can safely launder money and purchase equipment.

They won't defeat them. But making them a rogue organization on the run without safe haven will make it a lot more difficult for them.

It's time to put an end to the Syrian/Irak war once and for all. One country can't do it... but the world can.

by Adit Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:55 pm

sportsczy wrote:Of course, David Luiz and Edinson Cavani would "prefer" not to return to Paris... what cowards. As if anyone gives a crap about them.

Come on dude you cant be serious.

No body wants to die because of some idiot blowing themselves up.

by Adit Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:01 pm

They can be destroyed by war though. Every Organization needs funding. These guys are blowing themselves up because their entire family will be taken care of by the organization. Never mind the war costs which is very very huge. Hit them where it hurts, take the oil rigs they controls back and sanction the Saudi Arabian wahaaabi millionaires who are funding these bastard. With out funds no body will work for them.

by The Demon of Carthage Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:06 pm

Adit wrote:...sanction the Saudi Arabian wahaaabi millionaires who are funding these bastard. With out funds no body will work for them.

You'll be surprised to know that there are many countries behind them, and some of them aren't even from the middle-east. Just begin by asking yourself when did this all start and who is benefiting from it.

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