Where in the Political Spectrum do you stand ?
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Where in the Political Spectrum do you stand ??
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It's a shame that gay people won't get to reproduce.
Studies have shown Gays are among the top 3% smartest people on earth....if they don't reproduce, their genes won't pass on and humanity will suffer as a whole in the long-term.
I wish they could get some girl pregnant in a one night stand, before marrying their love-guy...so at least a baby can be born that carries the intelligence of usually exceptionally talented gay people.
Studies have shown Gays are among the top 3% smartest people on earth....if they don't reproduce, their genes won't pass on and humanity will suffer as a whole in the long-term.
I wish they could get some girl pregnant in a one night stand, before marrying their love-guy...so at least a baby can be born that carries the intelligence of usually exceptionally talented gay people.
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Lmao, I got this
Right on point
Right on point
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u mean Gandhifutbol wrote:I'm Ghandi confirmed:
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Not many rightists
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Didn't think I was that far left. I didn't care too much for the questions, though. As Hans and Futbol have pointed out, whenever you ask this kind of stuff in a format like this and only have four options, it doesn't give you the proper ability to respond in a way you feel is most appropriate for yourself. That being said, this is probably one of the better ideology tests I've taken.
Not surprised to see I'm in an area that caters more to the European population than American
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Having posted this, I don't like to classify my way of thinking. Ideologies are categories that simplify the world but are not useful to rightfully decide wether something is good or bad. They are irrational. So I try to analyse issue to issue my stance on it depending on the pros and cons.
This means to many issues I don't have any stance, as I didn't have the time to get informed. Currently the TTIP is an important issue in Europe, and tbh I have no idea if I'm for or against it, for example. Being "center-left" as I'm supposed to, I should be against TTIP.
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And here's me, you beautiful, Bavarian bastard.Hapless_Hans wrote:
(Me favoring regulation probably pushed me a bit into the autoritarian direction)
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I just laughed way harder at that than I should have.
You anarchist pigdog.
You anarchist pigdog.
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rwo power wrote:I'm Pjotr Kropotkin XD
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Why is the anti religion, pro choice, pro gay marriage, Ayn Rand, that far right?
I tried this test and stopped after first two questions
"If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve HUMANITY rather than the interests of trans-national corporations"
"I'd always support my country, whether it was right or WRONG."
They're not messing about are they Â
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DuringTheWar wrote:Why is the anti religion, pro choice, pro gay marriage, Ayn Rand, that far right?
What do you mean? The right is the economic axis and I can hardly think of anyone far more to the right on these issues than Ayn Rand. All the things you mentioned belong to the social axis so she is rightly put pretty high up on the libertarian axis on that account.
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:DuringTheWar wrote:Why is the anti religion, pro choice, pro gay marriage, Ayn Rand, that far right?
What do you mean? The right is the economic axis and I can hardly think of anyone far more to the right on these issues than Ayn Rand. All the things you mentioned belong to the social axis so she is rightly put pretty high up on the libertarian axis on that account.
Ok, I didn't notice they extracted all the social issues out of the terms "left/right". Authoritarian in my mind is a word more associated with economic matters.
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DuringTheWar wrote:
I tried this test and stopped after first two questions
"If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve HUMANITY rather than the interests of trans-national corporations"
"I'd always support my country, whether it was right or WRONG."
They're not messing about are they Â
Yes you're right.
It's no surprise the test produces lefties galore, the way it is worded.
If the statements about these topics were framed in a way that they are rather infused with right wing talking points, let's say
"Economic growth due to global free trade will ultimately benefit the whole of humanity"
"It's important to always put the interests of your country ahead of your own"
people would quite possibly give different responses.
My result would be the same though
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Yep. If you have any questions on my views shoot away
Also, viva
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What classifies as unnatural and natural futbol?
You're thinking surface level ideologies. We've been told all our lives that being "gay" isn't natural. Well then, what is?
Driving a car to work isn't natural.
Wearing clothes isn't natural.
And I have plenty of friends who have been risen by gay parents, and they turned out just fine. You'd be surprised in today's age how little a parent actually has influence over their kid. It's the experiences they grew up in that truly influence them.
For example, the single mom who raises three kids is strapped on money most likely and is in a bad neighborhood. there are more factors then just homosexuality in the household.
Other kids make fun of them.. cool, so that means that they should never be accepted as equals? Progress is made by constantly challenging the status quo. I go to festivals all the time and i see plenty of LGBT people. not a problem, I get along with them just as well as anyone.
You're thinking surface level ideologies. We've been told all our lives that being "gay" isn't natural. Well then, what is?
Driving a car to work isn't natural.
Wearing clothes isn't natural.
And I have plenty of friends who have been risen by gay parents, and they turned out just fine. You'd be surprised in today's age how little a parent actually has influence over their kid. It's the experiences they grew up in that truly influence them.
For example, the single mom who raises three kids is strapped on money most likely and is in a bad neighborhood. there are more factors then just homosexuality in the household.
Other kids make fun of them.. cool, so that means that they should never be accepted as equals? Progress is made by constantly challenging the status quo. I go to festivals all the time and i see plenty of LGBT people. not a problem, I get along with them just as well as anyone.
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You are one excellent dude.
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The test was nice and interesting but I would much prefer if you guys and rwo simply described your views and opinions. Having said that, I'm positively intrigued by futbol. He seems to have so many conflicting emotions. Mind it, I'm not judging or criticizing him. I mean, I always thought someone supporting gay liberty would also be supportive of gay couples adopting a child. But mind it I have very vague idea about this issue and my perception could be entirely wrong.
On my personal standing, I'm positively surprised that I have such strong leaning towards the left even in my 40s .
On my personal standing, I'm positively surprised that I have such strong leaning towards the left even in my 40s .
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ffs I miss my XP so much
From a certain age on, sri, it's becoming increasingly hard to get used to new things.
You'll see.
From a certain age on, sri, it's becoming increasingly hard to get used to new things.
You'll see.
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Hapless_Hans wrote:ffs I miss my XP so much
From a certain age on, sri, it's becoming increasingly hard to get used to new things.
You'll see.
Already hit that inertia to change a few years back. Don't be deceived by the number shown as 'Age' on my profile. *sigh*
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srigooner wrote:Ifti uses Win Xp still
This laptop is going on and on and on. I can never dump it as long as it's running .
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Didn't like how the test was worded - some of the questions were begging for a typically left-wing response. Anyway, my position probably wouldn't have changed much - maybe mirrored about the y-axis but that's still almost as centrist as could be.
IMO issue-based politics - which has been on the rise for the past decade or so - is definitely the future. Our world right now I think is too complex for positions to be based out of semiholistic ideologies.
One of my pet peeves, which the European members here might shed some light on, is why environmental issues are so dominated by far-left parties. There is nothing intrinsincally left wing about the environment, if anything it better fits the true definition of a conservative - the idea of wanting to keep things as they were and wanting to leave the Earth in as good a fashion as we received it.
The only left-wing talking point is increased regulation, but this is not enough in and of itself. For instance, absolutely nobody opposes stringent safety regulations - so why not environmental regulations too? Conservatives are for less regulations - not no regulations at all. The addition of environmental protections would be akin to the addition of safety regulations IMO.
I'm quite frustrated by the inability of conservative or centrist to centre-right parties to adopt a pro-environment stance, because I don't identify with the rest of left-wing politics at all. It is an issue that transcends (or should transcend) politics.
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For example, if you say you don't want 'special treatment' of women in the workplace in form of quotas, my position would be this:
I'm not comfortable with the notion of quotas either, but I think it would be important to understand and realize that the call for quota by feminists is not simply asking for special treatment, but a tool to curb the 'normality' and effortless omnipresence of special treatment for men.
We may think the effort of a push for quota is a violation of principles, but principles never apply to everyone unless efforts are made.
Or to put that in generally terms, I think libertarian instincts are good and I share them, but an actual look at history often makes libertarian proclamations naive and ignorant.
I have the same opinion as futbol and my opposition to quotas is two-fold -
(1) It's effectiveness as a tool to bring about change is sketchy at best (see this for an on-topic examination -> http://www.economist.com/news/business/21632512-worlds-most-female-friendly-workplaces-executive-suites-are-still-male-dominated). It has nothing to do with me being a guy - I'm a visible minority in Canada in terms of race but I'm still opposed to quotas that would favour me.
(2) It is a violation of individual principles of fairness - just like you had recognized. I think in individual terms of right and wrong - while (I think) you are willing to forego fairness in certain situations. Our fundamental difference here is basically that our stances about the following statement differ - "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer". In addition, I'm content with understanding my decisions within the context of my personal life and sphere of influence, whereas you are interested in global results.
I don't want to seem like I'm over-simplifying - but women have made incredible gains over the past few decades without the help of quotas. The idea that no further progress is possible without them seems a little hasty. The glass ceiling that people discuss is generally about C-suite level positions. But the CEOs of today started their careers in an entirely different generation with an entirely different mindset. Given some time, the upper echelons of companies will be filled with far more gender-aware and race-aware individuals and there will be no need for quotas. After all, the majority of college graduates are now women.
Even then, I think somewhat like a second-generation feminist. The goal should be liberation, not 50-50 equality. I'm OK with inequality in any walk of life, as long as people are not denied opportunities for their gender or race or appearance etc.
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According to this chart, I match almost exactly with the NDP. IRL that is not even close to my actual position. This is why I don't put much stock in these online questionnaires. Also, the idea that the Greens are more right-wing than NDP is lol-worthy.
I didn't vote in the election (I wasn't present in my home riding) + my home riding literally is Stephen Harper's riding so my vote wouldn't have mattered. I would have voted Liberal given the choice, I wasn't happy with a few of Harper's decisions over the past year. Found them unnecessary and needlessly divisive.
My riding for the past 5 years in downtown Toronto also went Liberal but I'm sure that was strategic voting. Given that its a campus riding, it is obviously NDP-biased.
I'm satisfied with the outcome of the election, I really didn't want the NDP to get even a minority.
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