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Post by Firenze Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:12 pm

would love guardado hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:13 pm

Was talking about Luuk De Jong hmm
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Post by Firenze Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:13 pm

agree with S though, can't see any of the current top 4 bottling it..although you never know with spurs

guess we will at least take the EL seriously not that it will stop us from being smashed by one of the half dozen or so teams in it that are infinitely superior to us atm Proud
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:15 pm

Actually the link you posted, futbol, shows that DDG pulled off an amazing save. The angle at which the ball was launched couldn't have possibly made the ball hit his head, it would've been smashed directly into the top corner.

That was a godly reflex save.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:17 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
futbol wrote:I expect every first division league goalkeeper to save a shot that comes directly at him like this:

http://streamable.com/3n6x

If he doesn't save it with his hand and just stands there doing literally nothing it's going to hit his head and still not go into the net, that's how standard that save was. Laughing


There's nothing special about that agreed, but still you and Hans are both deluded with your opinion regarding De Gea tbh.

Either that or haters hmm Pick one pls.


What's my, or futbol's, opinion about De Gea again? Enlighten me please.

I have said nothing, NOTHING whatsoever, about De Gea himself.
I've only said something about today's saves and mostly the way they are commented upon.
As I have in earlier times pointed out the uniqueness of many of his saves is exaggerated.
Saying a certain save is nothing special makes De Gea not in any way a worse GK.
Is that so hard to comprehend?

Of course he's an absolute top keeper. Wonderful player.

Still there's nothing he has achieved so far that provides grounds to rate him above Cech, Courtois, Buffon, Neuer. Or even Navas or Ter Stegen tbh. And why not Oblak lol?
That's the point. Standard saves in PL matches won't change that.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:23 pm

Except they don't, you are imagining things to drive home an agenda as Agent Futbol has teached you to do so. hmm

No one actually things like that and bringing up Van Gaal doesn't prove anything as he's damaged mentally tbh.

We think he's a fantastic keeper, best in the league arguably who makes fantastic saves but no one actually overrates standard saves to make a point.

No more than any other keeper anyway, as overrating standard saves is an epidemic spread across football in general and has been for years.

De Gea doesn't get any sort of special treatment in that sense.
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Post by M99 Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:24 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote: Or even Navas or Ter Stegen tbh. And why not Oblak lol?
That's the point. Standard saves in PL matches won't change that.


Are you serious lol? Did last season not happen where he was by far Unired's best player? Didn't his performances saving points this season not happen?

Oh wait or were they all standard saves any keeper could make?
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Post by futbol Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:24 pm

Yeah, I haven't said anything bad about De Gea in general either. Just this weird fetish to paint every single save he makes as world class. Even freaking Red Cafe members notice it now:



I voted him man of the match, but these days every standard save he makes gets hailed as world-class...


http://www.redcafe.net/threads/david-de-gea-2015-16-performances.406643/page-20#post-18754844

Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:28 pm

People do that with every keeper though, he just makes more saves because Man Yoo can't defend.

When chat comes back i'll prove it to you Laughing people wank over any save which requires quick reactions no matter if it was straight at them or not.

It's something which is spread across football fans in general, De Gea isn't any different to any other keeper in that sense.

I remember calling RG out for doing it a month or so back Laughing
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Post by Adit Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:28 pm

Is GK now rated bases on what their team won? What does achieved even mean.


And how is ter Stegen who is sub to real soceidad flop and who has been as error prone as its get even sneaked into your list of de gea level keepers.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:30 pm

M99 wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote: Or even Navas or Ter Stegen tbh. And why not Oblak lol?
That's the point. Standard saves in PL matches won't change that.


Are you serious lol? Did last season not happen where he was by far Unired's best player? Didn't his performances saving points this season not happen?

Oh wait or were they all standard saves any keeper could make?


None of these are standard keepers. Every one of these is a top keeper.
So of course, they make saves that are beyond standard, great, what have you.

De Gea is an absolutely fantastic young keeper.
It's just really weird the hype around him exceeds by far the hype made about every other young keeper, some of whom are fantastic also.
It's because Man Utd have such a central role in the collective imagination of the Premier League and everyone covering it.
He had to be instant World Class because someone or something at Utd has to be, and noone else was coming remotely close.


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Post by Kaladin Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:30 pm

Can't wait for RG's return tbh, prepared a surprise for him sent thru BC
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Post by futbol Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:32 pm

RG will not return anytime soon, already pulling a Gil before the Barca games out of precaution. :coffee:

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:33 pm

Sincerely hope Gil is alright Sad
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:33 pm

futbol wrote:RG will not return anytime soon, already pulling a Gil before the Barca games out of precaution. :coffee:


Nah he's been on "holiday" and is back tomorrow.

Sorry to disappoint you that Barca causes that sort of fear in people Laughing

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Post by Kaladin Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:39 pm

RG coming back tomorrow to save Mole (Orihime) from Col. Hans Aizen (Haizen?)

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Post by Art Morte Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:39 pm

They were good saves. The one on Ivanovic especially. Fabregas' was a bit easier, imo.

But a fairly boring game in the end.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:41 pm

I don't need saving imo hmm
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Post by S Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:43 pm

RG making dat HHH-esque return and announcing himself as GL D'or winner
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:46 pm

S wrote:RG making dat HHH-esque return and announcing himself as GL D'or winner


While spending the next year to get Unique over hmm
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Post by futbol Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:52 pm

Adit wrote:Is GK now rated bases on what their team won? What does achieved even mean.


And how is ter Stegen who is sub to real soceidad flop and who has been as error prone as its get even sneaked into your list of de gea level keepers.


lel Bit rich coming from a Real Marketing fan.

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Post by S Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:54 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
S wrote:RG making dat HHH-esque return and announcing himself as GL D'or winner


While spending the next year to get Unique over hmm


Or maybe just get his old-time buddies back like Messiah and billionmillion hmm
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Post by Doc Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:58 pm

futbol wrote:
Adit wrote:Is GK now rated bases on what their team won? What does achieved even mean.


And how is ter Stegen who is sub to real soceidad flop and who has been as error prone as its get even sneaked into your list of de gea level keepers.
Rubbish really

Reported.
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Post by futbol Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:59 pm

Doc wrote:
futbol wrote:
Adit wrote:Is GK now rated bases on what their team won? What does achieved even mean.


And how is ter Stegen who is sub to real soceidad flop and who has been as error prone as its get even sneaked into your list of de gea level keepers.
Rubbish really

Reported.


RG is not there to read your reports. hmm

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Post by Adit Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:59 pm

Let's not get into quality of shots discussion bcz that will be very bad discussion for the soceidad flop who suddenly turns good when he is the least shot faced GK on earth. rofl


Best young GK ter scrubgen benched by 33 year old soceidad flop .

Futbol tried to put down bravo in the beginning but since he has to make ter stegen look like a decent keeper he now choose the easy way of making bravo gawwwdd.

: )
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Post by futbol Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:02 pm

Adit wrote:Let's not get into quality of shots discussion bcz that will be very bad discussion for the soceidad flop who suddenly turns good when he is the least shot faced GK on earth. rofl


Best young GK ter scrubgen benched by 33 year old soceidad flop .

Futbol tried to put down bravo in the beginning but since he has to make ter stegen look like a decent keeper he now choose the easy way of making bravo gawwwdd.

: )


Numero de paradas:

Bravo: 53
Keywhore Navas: 52

hmm

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