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Post by titosantill Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:33 pm

i don't even think the doctor knows when bale will be back. what's for sure is, when he comes back, he'll get injured again. if not this season, then like twice next season. what's amusing is someway somehow there's this rumor making the rounds that people in the club think its the grass at the bernabeu causing it....newsflash, he doesn't only play at the bernabeu, hell he doesn't even train there, not to mention when grass started causing calf problems. the man has had muscle, hamstring, back and foot injuries

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:10 pm

titosantill wrote: people in the club think its the grass at the bernabeu causing it.


No time for hesitation. Fire the grass and use Zidane instead cheers
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Post by Unique Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:12 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
titosantill wrote: people in the club think its the grass at the bernabeu causing it.


No time for hesitation. Fire the grass and use Zidane instead cheers
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:16 pm

I knew you'd like that one Unique Proud
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Post by Unique Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:27 pm

he may not have stats as good as others but payet has been out standing for west ham. top class again today
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Post by Curtinho Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:08 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Curtinho wrote:I think the title should be 'most productive player', but otherwise I always love this.

Bale :bow:

People love to hate on Ronaldo, but his consistency at the top of the world is truly unreal. Hats off to him.
Productive implies totals, effective best use of time available

Thanks rwo, I'll fix em up in the source for next time

For all this talk of MSN, it's BBC that are in the top 5 hmm


Productive doesn't necessarily imply totals, and it's still a much more suitable word than "effective" if you're really looking to nitpick at that level. The only thing you're measuring here is contribution to goals, or production. That doesn't determine how effective or efficient a player is.
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Post by Peccadillo Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:07 am

great table - cheers BC - get in Oli
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Post by sportsczy Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:50 am

I think we should add a couple of categories:
- Number of games where a player has had a goal
- Number of games where a player has had an assist
- Number of games where a player has had either a goal or an assist
- goals and assists versus top 5 in the league and in CL

Probably too complicated... but it would have more depth to the statistical analysis.
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Post by free_cat Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:56 am

Efficient is the word.

Efficacy: get it done.
Efficiency: get it done with the less resources (in this case, time on the pitch).

Did you check these players: Kane, Aguero, De Bruyne, Douglas Costa?

ON the transfermarkt vs. Whoscored debate, I'm undecided. I think it would be nice to have data from all the official competitions, but I understand that the criteria is different. However, it would also be different for every player, so the field would be even.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:57 pm

Anyone else have an opinion on transfermarkt (wide assists, penalties & more competitions) vs whoscored (direct passes & only Europe and local league)?
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Post by Curtinho Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:59 pm

I prefer transfermarkt also. The more information available the better.
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Post by rwo power Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:35 am

With transfermarkt, you could add the numbers for the domestic cups, too, which are missing with whoscored.
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Post by free_cat Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:20 am

free_cat wrote:

Did you check these players: Kane, Aguero, De Bruyne, Douglas Costa?


Just saw Aguero is in there. What about Mesut Ozil and Michy Batshuayi?

Good job BC, appreciate it.

Maybe you could do as said, to get the data from Cups from transfermarkt, would be the best option, if you are up to it.

Nice advertising footnote... through which media do you plan to spread it?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:29 pm

People in the past have asked about spreading these so I put these in there, but I don't have an advertising plan or anything. Last season I put them up on the goallegacy twitter but never did anything with that.

Also it looks like we are leaning towards transfermarkt now. We have 3 in favor (rwo, harmonica, curtinho) and 1 undecided (free). I appreciate the feedback on this, please keep it coming, otherwise it looks like the next update will use transfermarkt.

Those all made the 'shortlist' of 75ish players but didn't make the top 30 cut:

Harry Kane Tottenham 2642 18 2 132.10 0.68

Kevin de Bruyne Manchester City 2092 6 9 139.47 0.65

Mesut Oezil Arsenal 2627 6 17 114.22 0.79

Michy Batshuayi Marseille 2616 15 7 118.91 0.76

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Post by free_cat Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:32 pm

De bruyne. Laughing His only outstanding attribute is supposed to be his productivity, and he isn't even cutting it there.
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Post by Curtinho Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:24 pm

He will be once they add transfermarkt. Your hate-on for KdB is quite odd.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:30 pm

Isn't transfermarkt notorious for wrong stats? Laughing
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Post by free_cat Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:03 pm

Curtinho wrote:He will be once they add transfermarkt. Your hate-on for KdB is quite odd.


Having thought about it, I don't think we should add transfermarkt data....


Laughing Laughing Laughing

Just kidding, let me laugh while I can (although I will continue to laugh when you add his ton of goals and assists in the meaningless League Cup and still is kind of at the bottom).
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Post by farfan Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:48 pm

Payet ? hmm
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Post by Kebab Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:09 pm

So gareth bale currently is best player in the world
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Post by Curtinho Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:24 pm

Marginalizing KdB's impact in the League Cup isn't going to help...lol, they're largely in the final of that competition because of his contributions there. Not to mention every opponent he has played in that tournament has been a PL team (except Hull, who will be a PL team next season and are nowhere near as bad as some other teams playing in top flights).

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Isn't transfermarkt notorious for wrong stats? Laughing

In what way? Generally speaking they provide a game by game analysis of each player's stats so you can go and see where they assisted/scored, and a brief description of how it was done.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:31 pm

farfan wrote:Payet ? hmm


Dmitri Payet West Ham 1592 7 5 132.67 0.68
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Post by windkick Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:58 pm

Some one on Instagram had a stat that Ronaldo has 24 assists since the start of last season. More than any other player in Europe in that time frame.

Can anybody confirm if that stat is true?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:13 pm

https://i.imgur.com/V3CZ8X5.png
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Post by Curtinho Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:26 pm

...and that's after the corrupt refs in La Liga tried to help Barcelona by taking away a good goal by Bale.

Bale is a beast. :bow:

Also I believe Ousmane Dembele should be on the list. He has a goal or assist every 94.71 mins.
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Post by M99 Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:48 pm

Bale Molenation

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