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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:20 pm

Meh didn't play long enough to get pissed.

Got put into back to back lobby with a team so much better than us and then the bogey map which we usually struggle on.

Don't even care really.

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Post by Luca Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:29 pm

LeVersacci wrote:https://www.twitch.tv/moonmoon_ow/v/74408571

This just cheered me up rofl Sad


seagull and moonmoon are GOAT streamers, been watching them quite a bit recently

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Post by LeVersacci Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:40 pm

Watched alot of Seagull. A little of Moonmoon.

Learned alot from them, especially Seagull.
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Post by Firenze Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:52 pm

seagull's great but there are plenty better, been watching a lot of the top players streams lately, not so I can learn how to play like them since tactics are so much diff on PC just for entertainment, I like surefour and ster
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Post by Luca Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:06 am

LeVersacci wrote:Watched alot of Seagull. A little of Moonmoon.

Learned alot from them, especially Seagull.


Yeah, Seagull is my favourite.

Really showed me a lot of ult timing, tips for Soldier 76. Situational counters, what to pick into what Molenation

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Post by LeVersacci Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:20 am

Firenze wrote:seagull's great but there are plenty better, been watching a lot of the top players streams lately, not so I can learn how to play like them since tactics are so much diff on PC just for entertainment, I like surefour and ster
Who? I know that Gods guy from his team is pretty sick aswell.

Prob some sick guys from Cloud9 but haven't watched them much.
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Post by Firenze Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:26 am

https://www.twitch.tv/esl_overwatch

seagull is def the best genji player in the world ffs
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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:37 am

Omg Deman does Overwatch now?
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Post by Firenze Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:44 am

all pro teams having at least 2 D.Va on Hanamura attack

Moal redeemed

actually seen ppl do that on console, it works, we trying it next time imo

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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:58 am

Deman and Kaplan; so much nostalgia lol
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:02 am

Firenze wrote:all pro teams having at least 2 D.Va on Hanamura attack

Moal redeemed

actually seen ppl do that on console, it works, we trying it next time imo

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Dunno why you been hating on me for using her anyway lol.

We don't lose that often when I use her, my stats with her are very good just because every random that uses her doesn't mean she sucks lol.

You just gotta know how to use her and realize she's basically a support tank and not meant to be the primary damage dealer.

She's really good at pushing objectives behind a flanker and another tank but I stopped using her because y'all was hating Sad
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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:23 am

Liquid vs C9? Gonna watch just because of the teams involved.
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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:09 am

While 27,000 people are watching C9 vs. Liquid; 500 people are playing Battleborn

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Post by Thimmy Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:19 am

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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:04 pm

ELO Hell isn't what he describes it is. ELO hell is when you're good enough to be better than everyone on your team but you're not that much better to carry the game. People naturally deflect and blame others. His description of ELO hell is the childish interpretation; like I've said before: Here we go with ELO drama again
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Post by CBarca Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:22 pm

What kind of kills me is that blizzard even had the competitive in PTR and it didn't seem to make a difference as far as shipping out such a shitty product.

Nor did they have it in the game to start Laughing

Blizzard messed this one up tbh. They'll fix it tho, they always do
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Post by Firenze Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:39 pm

smh, guess you can't get trophies in weekly brawl, smashed 5 teleporters solo and didnt get the trophy Sad
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Post by Firenze Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:05 pm

this fn'n game man..win 8 in a row on comp yesterday now im on a 6-7 game losing streak since
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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:10 pm

Firenze wrote:now im on a 6-7 game losing streak since


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Post by LeVersacci Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:34 pm

Firenze wrote:this fn'n game man..win 8 in a row on comp yesterday now im on a 6-7 game losing streak since
lmaooo

I'm 2-1 (loss due to leaver) today

Had a leaver 3 games in a row Laughing

I'll be on in 30-40 min. Just gonna make some food.
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Post by Firenze Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:36 pm

lmao losing every time when we get sudden death attack on shit like hanamura anubis rofl went from 1 tiny bit away from 59 last night to almost 1 away from 55
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Post by Thimmy Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:46 pm

Phritz wrote:ELO Hell isn't what he describes it is. ELO hell is when you're good enough to be better than everyone on your team but you're not that much better to carry the game. People naturally deflect and blame others. His description of ELO hell is the childish interpretation; like I've said before: Here we go with ELO drama again


Carry your team? That's a CoD term, as far as I know. Never seen anyone on console even close to being able to carry his team. That's some ninja, PC crap. I don't know how this ELO system works, but I heard that Blizzard said they would reward players who perform well individually. How the f does that work? When my team loses, I seem to lose the same amount of XP, regardless of how I perform. If there's any difference in XP reward/deduction, it's miniscule. My rank dropped down to 50 after one night of playing comp with randoms, and I've been in a slump ever since. Can't even reach my placement ranking. Many high-ranked players who don't play with full teams, seem to be really underwhelming, and that negatively affects the team you draw against. Seems like a super flawed system, to me.
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Post by Firenze Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:51 pm

finally broke my losing streak

only 4 of their team left at the end of round 2 which means you get basically 0 rank

this game is BANTER
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:01 pm

Yep the system is *bleep* up, i go down pretty much the same everytime i lose and it's the same when i win. Individual performance doesn't really seem to effect it that much in my experience.

When i win i seem to go up similarly whether i play bad or not, same when i lose.

Not that i really care anyway, couldn't care less about a arbitrary number like i don't care about my stats but there's a lot of room for improvement that is quite clear.
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Post by Luca Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:04 pm

I wonder what happens to the leavers though... like when they queue the next time Laughing

Might log on in a bit if you guys have room

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Post by Bellabong Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:32 pm

Thimmy wrote:
Phritz wrote:ELO Hell isn't what he describes it is. ELO hell is when you're good enough to be better than everyone on your team but you're not that much better to carry the game. People naturally deflect and blame others. His description of ELO hell is the childish interpretation; like I've said before: Here we go with ELO drama again


Carry your team? That's a CoD term,  


No it's not lol. The usage of carrying a team is older than videogames and it's been used in team based games since before CoD4. Console or PC it doesn't matter what control scheme is used if the player is simply better.

You can either take the word of someone who's been playing team based soloqueue games with an ELO based ranking system for over a decade (And has been top %) or you can form your own thoughts which I've seen hundreds of thousands of times and repeated by millions before from people who can't accept their own skill level.

ELO with a large sample size is the best system we've got. If you can come up with a better system by all means do; it's not like we haven't been trying for the past 15 years. As soon as you start rewarding ranking for anything other than Win/Loss you jeopardize the integrity of the system; especially once it gets out what is rewarded.
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