Re: 2017/18 Summer Transfer Rumors Mk. I

by Hapless_Hans Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:48 am

ES wrote:I'm vjust gobsmacked at the prices in the EPL atm, guess thats the market their

In Serie A, a player of Ox's caliber wouldn't go higher than 12m

Well that's because Serie A is a poverty league

by Kaladin Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:52 am

Not really, pragmatic, maybe behind the curve, but clubs have their heads screwed on right (with exceptions). Especially when you see guys like Zielinski and Diawara going for 15m

The fact of the matter is, he's English and young

by Vlad the Impaler Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:52 am

Jay29 wrote:More on the Alexis stuff:

Various sources saying City want to pay cash only, and it's Arsenal who are pushing for a swap. They've asked for Aguero but Aguero wants none of that. Sterling is apparently more open to it. There's also talk of Delph being involved as well ().

Why on earth would Sterling even think of moving from City to Arsenal right now? No disrespect, but City's near future looks much brighter and he plays enough minutes not to be worried. I know you said "apparently more open to it", but the whole idea doesn't seem to be realistic. I am just curious what's in his mind.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:55 am

ES wrote:Not really, pragmatic, maybe behind the curve, but clubs have their heads screwed on right (with exceptions). Especially when you see guys like Zielinski and Diawara going for 15m

The fact of the matter is, he's English and young

Because they have to, money makes clubs get lazy.

by Jay29 Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:04 pm

Vlad the Impaler wrote:
Jay29 wrote:More on the Alexis stuff:

Various sources saying City want to pay cash only, and it's Arsenal who are pushing for a swap. They've asked for Aguero but Aguero wants none of that. Sterling is apparently more open to it. There's also talk of Delph being involved as well ().

Why on earth would Sterling even think of moving from City to Arsenal right now? No disrespect, but City's near future looks much brighter and he plays enough minutes not to be worried. I know you said "apparently more open to it", but the whole idea doesn't seem to be realistic. I am just curious what's in his mind.

The only thing that I can think of is that he's a London boy and wouldn't mind coming back.

Also I suppose that if Alexis arrived at City, Sterling's current game time is going to go down and he'd be an instant star at Arsenal.

Otherwise yes, you would logically stay at City. Better pay, better squad, better manager, etc.

by iftikhar Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:06 pm

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by McLewis Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:12 pm

Warrior wrote:New coach might want to switch formation. El Sha is not worth keeping the 4-3-3 at all cost, with Salah maybe but he's gone now.

The squad they have + SCHCIK could make a good 4-3-1-2

DZEKO-SCHICK
FLORENZI
STROOTMAN-DDR-NINJA
KOLAROV-FAZIO-MANOLAS-KARSDORP
ALISSON

Schick supporting Dzeko in a seconda punta role
And they have decent subs Pellegrini, Defrel, El Sha, Perotti, Gonalons

Robespierre wrote:Yeah I thought also that 4312 'd be the best setting for them,
but Nainggolan in place of Florenzi. If Ninja plays closer to attack he can be lethal.
Anyway if I know Di Francesco he never 'd do this.
He not just fundamentalist on tactic , he is also Zemaniano.
Wideness is crucial on his game, even against Inter we've noticed how much job did Defrel etc. I can't imagine him converting on rombo

EDF is attached at the hip to that 433, just like Enrique, Zeman and Garcia before him. He wouldn't even change it when we had 4 RBs out about to face a dangerous Inter team so I highly doubt he changes it for a kid we just forked out 40m for.

Schick will probably feature a fair amount on the right and probably centrally in select CL (and later EL) and Coppa matches.

by rincon Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:17 pm

He'll play a lot. It will probably take him a while to get fit again since he was with the heart problem, a month without training. After that he should bench Deffrel.

by Firenze Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:20 pm

Chelsea made a Ross Barkley bid

we can say these signings are depth but Barkley, Ox etc are not going there to sit on the bench

Conte rofl

we are pushing hard for Mahrez apparently, we do need a world class RW but I'm not convinced by him, we can chalk it up to not being bothered to play for Leicester last season but I don't want someone like that playing for us

by Firenze Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:21 pm

@FabrizioRomano
Inter newest offer for Mustafi : a loan of 5m euro with option to buy for 25m euro.

by rincon Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:25 pm

It seems like Howedes is done. 3.5m loan with a 11.5 option. Supposed medical tomorrow.

by Warrior Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:39 pm

Class signing for us. Especially when you see guys like Van Dijk with a 80M price rofl

by Blue Barrett Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:11 pm

Firenze wrote:Chelsea made a Ross Barkley bid

we can say these signings are depth but Barkley, Ox etc are not going there to sit on the bench

Conte

we are pushing hard for Mahrez apparently, we do need a world class RW but I'm not convinced by him, we can chalk it up to not being bothered to play for Leicester last season but I don't want someone like that playing for us

Neither Drinkwater nor Barkley is benching Kante and Bakayoko will start most games. The only player that could possibly start often is Ox in place of Moses and that would mean he's performing better at RWB than Moses. These players are being bought for depth. I don't know how many times I have to say it on this forum but I'll say it again. Between January and now, we lost 10 first team squad and only signed 4 to replace them. At some point this summer we only had 14 senior players in the squad. Paper thin. We badly needed depth. It's clear the club decided to fill the depth with English players, even though they're average. Hopefully Conte can make them punch above their weight.

by Blue Barrett Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:59 pm

BREAKING NEWS: Arsenal reject £50m bid from Manchester City for Alexis Sanchez, according to Sky sources. #SSN
— Sky Sports News (@SkySportsNews) August 29, 2017

Arsenal have rebuffed all approaches from Man City for Sanchez. #AFC stance remains not for sale - unless huge money + player offered #MCFC
— David Ornstein (@bbcsport_david) August 29, 2017

Imagine holding out for silly money for a player who has only 1 year left. Any smart club waits till his contract runs out.

by Casciavit Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:03 pm

Well Pep is under a lot of pressure to win the league this season, and signing Alexis will determine whether he wins it or not IMO.

They need another goalscorer in there, and considering Mbappe is joining PSG, Alexis is the only option left.

Not much of a fan personally, but City needs him.

by Abramovich Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:15 pm

Firenze wrote:Chelsea made a Ross Barkley bid

we can say these signings are depth but Barkley, Ox etc are not going there to sit on the bench

Conte

we are pushing hard for Mahrez apparently, we do need a world class RW but I'm not convinced by him, we can chalk it up to not being bothered to play for Leicester last season but I don't want someone like that playing for us

Well doesn't depth suggest that they will get minutes? Especially now we have CL.

Mahrez / Sanchez gonna be an interesting one, hope we are in the mix for them both.

by sportsczy Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:32 pm

Monaco getting Keita Balde and Carvalho are pretty great moves imo.

by Firenze Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:50 pm

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain would prefer move to Liverpool from Arsenal but time running out. Chelsea have agreed fee. No Liverpool bid - yet
— Kaveh Solhekol (@SkyKaveh) 29 August 2017

by Firenze Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:51 pm

AS Monaco have not yet responded to Liverpool's latest offer (€80m + Divock Origi on loan) for Thomas Lemar. More tomorrow on GFFN.
— Get French Football (@GFFN) 29 August 2017

by Firenze Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:54 pm

Oxlade-Chamberlain has rejected Chelsea move & wants to join Liverpool. Bid lower than #CFC £40m expected. Otherwise will stay at #AFC #LFC
— David Ornstein (@bbcsport_david) 29 August 2017

imagine being rejected by this scrub rofl

by Kick Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:20 pm

His loss, he'd have suited us very well, shame he cares more about where he plays on the field as opposed to greatly contributing to a winning team.

by Tomwin Lannister Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:23 pm

Tbf a lot of players would rather play in their preferred position rather than adapt and end up getting all the slack for under performing.

by Kick Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:39 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Tbf a lot of players would rather play in their preferred position rather than adapt and end up getting all the slack for under performing.

But Ox is already playing LWB and RWB at Arsenal, he'd take longer to adapt to CM at Liverpool than to play RWB at Chelsea.

by Casciavit Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:53 pm

Conte's pulling power is actually rofl

by Tomwin Lannister Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:55 pm

Kick wrote:
Tomwin Lannister wrote:Tbf a lot of players would rather play in their preferred position rather than adapt and end up getting all the slack for under performing.

But Ox is already playing LWB and RWB at Arsenal, he'd take longer to adapt to CM at Liverpool than to play RWB at Chelsea.

And I doubt he's loving his situation, hence the move.

I could be wrong but I doubt he wants to spend the next decade tracking his man at wing back as opposed to showcasing the attacking talents that he's used to get this far.

by Kick Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:00 pm

Brought in Kante, Bakayoko, Morata, and David Luiz because they all wanted to work with him yet he has no pulling power? hmm

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