Who will be the Democrats' presidential candidate against Trump?

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Post by McLewis on Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:12 am

Well traditional Dem (Boomers and the oldest Milennials) voters are still pretty center left. Younger Milennial Dems are naturally further to the left than their parents so I think that shift you're referring to will probably happen inevitably, but 2020 will be too early for that I believe. I don't think the Dems want to take chances with pushing independents to the right again so I think they'll go with a moderate again over someone to the left of that this time around.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:16 pm

@Clutch wrote:I can agree with that. However, I think this is the chance for America to go more left than it usually does because moderate dems usually dont get anything done anyways. So why not go more left than usual?
Because polarization is bad for the country, clearly. Not that the country would be less polarized with a center-left president, look at Obama who is as center left as it got, but it would certainly hurt to have a radical left one.

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Post by Blue on Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:09 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@Clutch wrote:I can agree with that. However, I think this is the chance for America to go more left than it usually does because moderate dems usually dont get anything done anyways. So why not go more left than usual?
Because polarization is bad for the country, clearly. Not that the country would be less polarized with a center-left president, look at Obama who is as center left as it got, but it would certainly hurt to have a radical left one.


Obama projected a radical left and ran on "change" platform, but his policies and views were quite centrist. Many things from his skin color, age, name created a radical persona.

I don't even consider Trump as a radical right, he projects it but his policies and views(legislative standpoint) is pretty much the norm for the republication party.

The right has been winning in this country, because they are unapologetic about their views. This is the problem with the left they are such betas, always lowering their standards to accommodate the right.


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Post by VivaStPauli on Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:05 am

Well with Obama it was pretty much only his skin colour that made people think of him as a radical persona. He was a centrist, the only people disagreeing with that had a problem with his skin colour, and those that live in the bubble those guys created.

Basically every candidate running against another party's candidate ran on some kind of a "change" platform. Obama also ran on "Hope" and "Yes we can" as much as he did on "change".

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Re: Who will be the Democrats' presidential candidate against Trump?

Post by McLewis on Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:27 am

Precisely, Obama was as center-left as they come though still more liberal than Bill Clinton was.

I suppose I understand what is drawing so many to someone like Beto O'Rourke as he's quite an eloquent and passionate speaker and has that uplifting, inspiring aura to him that many saw in Obama. I think Beto trends more to the left than Obama ever did though, but if he ever does decide to run for the job, it's all about when. The sooner he does it, the more the middle he'd have to move to be taken seriously. Same with Ocasio-Cortez, who Obama is personally endorsing. I find that surprising for whatever reason. Conservatives must feel validated by that after calling him a socialist for the last 10 years Laughing

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Re: Who will be the Democrats' presidential candidate against Trump?

Post by Freeza on Sat Oct 06, 2018 4:30 am




I'm done over here rofl

Fox News are just as comic as they're evil

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:56 pm

@RealGunner wrote:


It's wrong of course. It's not exactly all boxed up, and the box wasn't triggered to open when Kavanaugh was nominated.
Ford testified herself that, while she never spoke of it before, she mentioned this to her therapist more than 5 years ago.

Gaga is alsways annoying and stupid, even if well intentioned.

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Re: Who will be the Democrats' presidential candidate against Trump?

Post by Guest on Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:14 pm

@McLewis wrote:Well traditional Dem (Boomers and the oldest Milennials) voters are still pretty center left. Younger Milennial Dems are naturally further to the left than their parents so I think that shift you're referring to will probably happen inevitably, but 2020 will be too early for that I believe. I don't think the Dems want to take chances with pushing independents to the right again so I think they'll go with a moderate again over someone to the left of that this time around.


While that is true right now how sure are we that this will remain a fact as younger Millenials(and Gen Z) grow older and start to get jobs/participate in the labor force?

Baby Boomers were all about free love and peace when they were young too. They then grew older, had kids, and gave us 8 of Reagan as soon as they did. I'd be weary trusting a long lasting shift to the left in terms of large population centers as long as the economy does not completely fall apart.

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Re: Who will be the Democrats' presidential candidate against Trump?

Post by McLewis on Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:31 pm

So Michael Bloomberg, former mayor of NYC, is now a Democrat....again.

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/politics/2018/10/10/bloomberg-re-registers-democrat-sparking-2020-run-speculation/38112617/

Kamala Harris is going to South Carolina to stump for local candidates there, which is traditional for Democrats who are gearing up for a presidential run.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/kamala-harris-2020-south-carolina-889035

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Post by RealGunner on Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:12 pm

Jesus christ



No wonder republicans have no issues with having someone like Kavanaugh in supreme court
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Re: Who will be the Democrats' presidential candidate against Trump?

Post by McLewis on Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:51 am

He's so sure of his victory that he's giving his opponent, Beto O'Rourke a full hour of basically free national TV coverage on CNN at a townhall both candidates were supposed to attend. Cruz opted out, but O'Rourke didn't and will appear alone.

So now Beto gets to really show out on primetime in front of millions, unchallenged by his opponent. That's either a ballsy, arrogant move from Cruz if he wins or it will be looked back on as one of the key reasons why he lost.

Either way, he's insufferable as a politician and a person.

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