IS KLOPP CURSED?

how many finals ffs?

Hoof it to forwards tactics and do you really feel sorry for him?

It‘s his fault that he trusts too many shitty players, has that Wengerism in him unfortunately. It‘s a miracle this team made any final let alone a CL final.

He has Juve and Atleti DNA

urbaNRoots wrote:It‘s his fault that he trusts too many shitty players, has that Wengerism in him unfortunately. It‘s a miracle this team made any final let alone a CL final.

i agree with that tbh. he backs his players to much. im hoping to see lots of dead wood gone by the start of the season.

Losing 6 in a row is not a curse. He overachieves with his semi decent teams when they shouldn't even be in the final.

He has lost to the better side all 6 times

urban and RG nailed it. Man needs a statue for taking Karius and Milner to the final in the first place.

Does he really overachieve? Let's look at his path to the CL final:

Porto - Manchester City - Roma

Got 3 draws in a group with Moscow, Sevilla and Mairbor too.

The only challenge was Man City, who have their own CL problems and Liverpool have figured out in the league.

Yes he did lol, Liverpool's team without him don't even qualify for the CL.

And, Liverpool barely got past Roma 7-6 and they had some fortunate calls. It was a bridge too far to think they had much of a chance against Madrid.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Does he really overachieve? Let's look at his path to the CL final:

Porto - Manchester City - Roma

Got 3 draws in a group with Moscow, Sevilla and Mairbor too.

The only challenge was Man City, who have their own CL problems and Liverpool have figured out in the league.

I seriously dispute that we weren't a challenge for them tbh.

Salah carried him in this CL. He lucked out with Dortmund, was carried by a GOAT team then too. Still bottled it.

He's simply not as good as people make him out to be.

Looked clueless when Salah went off. Mourinho tactics. Don't want to hear about how he took scrubs to a final with this Pool team. Salah was the best player in the world this season by a tremendous distance. All on him.

Firenze wrote:Salah carried him in this CL. He lucked out with Dortmund, was carried by a GOAT team then too. Still bottled it.

He's simply not as good as people make him out to be.

Looked clueless when Salah went off. Mourinho tactics. Don't want to hear about how he took scrubs to a final with this Pool team. Salah was the best player in the world this season by a tremendous distance. All on him.

not to piss on your cornflakes little buddy but firmino was our best player in this cup run.

That so called GOAT team that has fallen apart since and most of their players have failed to live up expectations outside of Dortmund.

At some point you'll have to accept that he's actually a fantastic coach, especially considering Salah never came close to performing to this level elsewhere.

No he isn't, He keeps overachieving with small teams.

When will you give the credit he deserves?

Adit with one of the worst posts i've ever seen on GL at the start there.

Firenze wrote:Salah carried him in this CL. He lucked out with Dortmund, was carried by a GOAT team then too. Still bottled it.

He's simply not as good as people make him out to be.

Looked clueless when Salah went off. Mourinho tactics. Don't want to hear about how he took scrubs to a final with this Pool team. Salah was the best player in the world this season by a tremendous distance. All on him.

He makes GOAT teams, He isn't carried by it. Come on man

I'm just getting my jollies by kicking you guys while you're down. Allow it.

Though I do believe he's a very good coach and not elite. You're still fortunate to have him.

We aren't, We'll be back, Might take 10 years again idc.

klopps biggest problem is he gives bad players too much backing. im not saying he should be like mourinho and destroy players after one bad game but he lets bad players get away with costing us the big games time and time again. i will bet my life right now that lovren and karias are straters next season. yes i know lovren did not have a bad game tonight but he is a car crash waiting to happen. this is why i have a dig at klopp. the problems are clear to see but he dont fix them right away.

To be fair if his teams overachieve already it would be nice to see them overachieve in a final as well.
But then again you can't look at a final in isolation.. and yeah, once you look at the general picture you can't really blame him for what he does (overachieving).

Still.. would be very nice to see him win some stuff soon.

One of these days, he'll win this comp. I saw enough to believe that'll happen. He was much closer with this Liverpool team than the Dortmund one a couple years back imo.

Klopp made the decision to make Karius our starting keeper, in spite of the man never putting in consistently good performances. You do stupid shit like that, you going to go trophyless, simple as. Nothing cursed about it, just a bad decision.

M99 wrote:urban and RG nailed it. Man needs a statue for taking Karius and Milner to the final in the first place.

There are many garbage players in our team.. Milner is not one of them. Put some respeck on his name ffs.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Does he really overachieve? Let's look at his path to the CL final:

Porto - Manchester City - Roma

Got 3 draws in a group with Moscow, Sevilla and Mairbor too.

The only challenge was Man City, who have their own CL problems and Liverpool have figured out in the league.

Try doing that with Lovren, Klavan, Wijnaldum, Emre.

@Art Morte Mignolet would have been even worse.