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Post by Casciavit on Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:41 am

Neymar's defensive contribution is underrated imo. He was the one who was doing the most donkey work from MSN. Didn't he also accept playing as a LM in a 4-4-2 for PSG in some key games at the start of the season?

Look if Barca gets an easy run up then obviously they can win the CL. I just think that once they come up against tough teams MSN will struggle. They don't have the same offensive dynamics as they did in 2015. They're also all older now too.

Barca does need a LW though. If you watched their previous CL ties the lack of pace on the left was a serious issue. Dembele is a RW and Coutinho is too slow. Griezmann's better in the middle and his 1v1 skills aren't good enough to play on the wing where he can't even cut in to his stronger foot.

Mane would've been an amazing signing tbh.


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Post by futbol on Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:01 pm

Hans doesn't watch football, not surprised. He thinks because Neymar is a bellend off the pitch he does not defend. He defended very well at Barca, it was never an issue. He was always very active, running around, pressing and harrassing defenders.

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Post by Myesyats on Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:28 pm

Just because he dived a couple times, hes not a great player basically. The man has more quality in one finger than Dembele in his whole body.

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Post by sportsczy on Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:41 pm

@futbol wrote:Hans doesn't watch football, not surprised. He thinks because Neymar is a bellend off the pitch he does not defend. He defended very well at Barca, it was never an issue. He was always very active, running around, pressing and harrassing defenders.

He played worse defense than Messi with PSG looool. Literally couldn't be bothered, even in CL.

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Post by rincon on Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:44 pm

PSG is a joke.

It's like some forgot his Santos, Barca, Brazil performances. Neymar works hard. He was covering the flank like a proper winger for Barca with good workrate in both directions. That he is an asshole doesn't mean he doesn't work on the pitch.
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Post by futbol on Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:46 pm

@sportsczy wrote:
@futbol wrote:Hans doesn't watch football, not surprised. He thinks because Neymar is a bellend off the pitch he does not defend. He defended very well at Barca, it was never an issue. He was always very active, running around, pressing and harrassing defenders.

He played worse defense than Messi with PSG looool. Literally couldn't be bothered, even in CL.


Understandable, he doesn't want to be there so why bother. Imagine Neymar busting a gut and running up and down the flanks for Cavani or 20 year old Mbappe against FC Guingamp. rofl

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:43 pm

@futbol wrote:Hans doesn't watch football, not surprised. He thinks because Neymar is a bellend off the pitch he does not defend. He defended very well at Barca, it was never an issue. He was always very active, running around, pressing and harrassing defenders.


1:00 "We used the right wing where, yeah, Neymar, is a world class player but not a defender...."

Laughing

I doubt you saw much of Neymar for PSG, but I remember that game well

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Post by Doc on Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:27 am

Neymar @ Barcelona is not the same Neymar at PSG. As far as I am aware from last season, Neymar only really put in any decent defensive contribution in "big" matches. And it was decent, not Eto vs Barcelona in the UCL semis. Just decent.

Agree with Rincon though, PSG is a joke. So is Barcelona thinking they are getting the same footballer that left them tbh. Even after Messi and Suarez begged him to reconsider, his apparent best friends, he still took the check PSG gave him, went down to LFP office and told Barca to fuck off.

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:18 am

@futbol wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:
@futbol wrote:Hans doesn't watch football, not surprised. He thinks because Neymar is a bellend off the pitch he does not defend. He defended very well at Barca, it was never an issue. He was always very active, running around, pressing and harrassing defenders.

He played worse defense than Messi with PSG looool. Literally couldn't be bothered, even in CL.


Understandable, he doesn't want to be there so why bother. Imagine Neymar busting a gut and running up and down the flanks for Cavani or 20 year old Mbappe against FC Guingamp. rofl

His worse performance defensively were the Liverpool games... especially the first one... in the CL pool round.

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Post by futbol on Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:06 pm

I don't see how he is not coming. The bridges with PSG are burned. They made an official statement that he has not arrived in training and he made an official video that he enjoyed beating PSG 6-1. Plus LOTS of rumours that he personally asked for a transfer. How is he going to stay at PSG now?


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Post by danyjr on Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:24 pm

Like someone said Qataris don't mind holding people hostage because money is not an issue for them. They did it with Rabiot, they'll do it with Neymar.

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:47 pm

Saving face is more important than money in Qatar...  it's that simple.   Carlo Ancellotti was let out of his contract because he handled everything with utter class.  Neymar is making it impossible for PSG to sell him without Barca paying through the nose and immediately.

And I'll add that PSG despises Barca because of the shenanigans with Silva and Verratti.  Also, because of how they handled the sale of the same Neymar to PSG.

Any other team and PSG play ball.  With Barca, it's 250 mil paid all at once or take a hike lol.  There's nothing else to discuss.

It's not about being held hostage. Barca simply have to pay the price. If they don't, they don't.

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Post by Doc on Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:42 pm

Wanna try something...

Isco is one of Real Madrid's most underrated players and should be the one starting instead of Benzema.

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Post by futbol on Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:45 pm

Explain how they save face by being forced to play someone who told them he wants to leave? What if Tuchel doesn't want someone in his team who doesn't want to be there? And please don't come up with "he'll rot in the reserves" bullshit. I'd be surprised if he didn't have playing time in his contract even. We're talking about Neymar who had hoes and other privileges for his father and friends in his contract. Laughing

If a high profile player like that wants to go he will go. Would not even be surprised if the Neymar clique brings it to court if PSG don't budge. Really interested to see about the labour rights in Europe and if you can truly keep people chained against their will at a working place.

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Post by sportsczy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:22 am

They don't want to sell to Barcelona until they get their pound of flesh... get that into your thick skulls lol.

If it was anyone else, PSG would have struck a deal by now.  Issue is, Neymar wants to go to Madrid or Barca.  Madrid said flat no...  so the only option is Barca and Barca NEED TO PAY UP. If Barca doesn't, Neymar will stay. Fairly simple.

Next time, Barca should try not to piss off every club so they don't get raped when they try to buy.  Right now, because of how Barca operates, they need to overpay by 2x to buy anyone.

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Post by futbol on Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:08 am

Only in your dreams did Neymar offer himself to Madrid and Madrid said no. Laughing

No doubt Perez is dying inside though. Finally when Madrid gets Hazard after all, in the same summer suddenly Neymar becomes available. You couldn't make it up.

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Post by sportsczy on Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:45 am

Perez is dying so much that he told both PSG and Neymar's father formally "no" according to Fred Hermel (he would know)... mainly because ZZ wouldn't sign off on the deal and, as part of his return, he needs to approve every transfer.

We need midfielders, not prima donna strikers that are getting past their expiration date early like most brazilian starlets.

You're basically getting the Milan version of dinho. Pretty much the same age too... except Neymar was never as good as dinho.

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Post by alexjanosik on Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:18 am

@sportsczy wrote:Perez is dying so much that he told both PSG and Neymar's father formally "no" according to Fred Hermel (he would know)... mainly because ZZ wouldn't sign off on the deal and, as part of his return, he needs to approve every transfer.

We need midfielders, not prima donna strikers that are getting past their expiration date early like most brazilian starlets.

You're basically getting the Milan version of dinho. Pretty much the same age too... except Neymar was never as good as dinho.


As good as Hazard is, Neymar is thrice the player. If he wants to go to Madrid, Perez would pounce irrespective of whether Zidane wants him or not.

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Post by Clutch on Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:16 am

No way on earth Zidane said no to Neymar lol. Zidane named Neymar in his all time 11 which didnt even include CR7 Laughing

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Post by Valkyrja on Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:17 am

We’ll see about that. As far as I’m concerned Hazard unlike Neymar is a proven winner with Chelsea as he lead them to 2 Premier League titles. Neymar is 27 and yet to do anything in any team as the main man. Now one plays for the biggest and most demanding football club in the world while the other is playing with scrubs in Ligue Z trying to project his return to the club he fcked 2 years ago - saying a lot about both parties. Talent wise they are similar but hazard unlike Nerman is a manageable character and has a more resilient physique.

We don’t need him and we don’t need mbappe either but that’s another thing.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:22 am

@alexjanosik wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:Perez is dying so much that he told both PSG and Neymar's father formally "no" according to Fred Hermel (he would know)... mainly because ZZ wouldn't sign off on the deal and, as part of his return, he needs to approve every transfer.

We need midfielders, not prima donna strikers that are getting past their expiration date early like most brazilian starlets.

You're basically getting the Milan version of dinho.  Pretty much the same age too... except Neymar was never as good as dinho.


As good as Hazard is, Neymar is thrice the player. If he wants to go to Madrid, Perez would pounce irrespective of whether Zidane wants him or not.

No comparison between the two. Neymar is a beast while Hazard is a good player. I'd take Neymar any day.

I agree, there's no way Florentino would say no to Neymar. If the Brazilian is not wearing the white of Madrid right now, it's because of two reasons:

1. He simply doesn't want to play for Madrid and has never offered himself to us.
2. Even if he were predisposed to come, Madrid simply can't afford him. Just look how they are struggling to meet United's asking price for Pogba, let alone dropping a quarter of a billion on one player.

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Post by Myesyats on Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:14 am

@Valkyrja wrote:We’ll see about that. As far as I’m concerned Hazard unlike Neymar is a proven winner with Chelsea as he lead them to 2 Premier League titles. Neymar is 27 and yet to do anything in any team as the main man. Now one plays for the biggest and most demanding football club in the world while the other is playing with scrubs in Ligue Z trying to project his return to the club he fcked 2 years ago - saying a lot about both parties. Talent wise they are similar but hazard unlike Nerman is a manageable character and has a more resilient physique.

We don’t need him and we don’t need mbappe either but that’s another thing.
Dude you watched him toy with Madrid and win a treble for Barca. You are going to go trophyless with the overweight midget and brace yourself for that.

Truth be told Griezmann is also better than Hazard and you know it.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:20 am

Trophyless? No way! We'll win the Bernabeu trophy against WhoGivesAFck FC.

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Post by Valkyrja on Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:48 am

@Myesyats wrote:
@Valkyrja wrote:We’ll see about that. As far as I’m concerned Hazard unlike Neymar is a proven winner with Chelsea as he lead them to 2 Premier League titles. Neymar is 27 and yet to do anything in any team as the main man. Now one plays for the biggest and most demanding football club in the world while the other is playing with scrubs in Ligue Z trying to project his return to the club he fcked 2 years ago - saying a lot about both parties. Talent wise they are similar but hazard unlike Nerman is a manageable character and has a more resilient physique.

We don’t need him and we don’t need mbappe either but that’s another thing.
Dude you watched him toy with Madrid and win a treble for Barca. You are going to go trophyless with the overweight midget and brace yourself for that.

Truth be told Griezmann is also better than Hazard and you know it.


Oh that treble. I only remember the greatest footballer of all times at his mesmerizing best, clearly not this guy.

Going trophyless ? rofl

You realize that your team is an utter fckin joke, buying big names without any idea of how they would fit your team and now trying to bring back this fraud who literally made a joke of the organization you support less than 2 years ago. Mes Que Un Club doesn't know anything about dignity I guess

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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:56 am

Who said Barca couldn’t afford him?

https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2019/07/17/5d2ee0d846163fb1b38b4574.html
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Post by danyjr on Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:59 pm

More posts from Madrid fans in a thread about Neymar joining Barça. The fear is unreal Laughing

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