Liverpool and Klopp - it's all downhill from here

Kaladin wrote:Pool have been struggling as of late and they were extremely lucky to score last minute in the previous match.

Mind you this is Klopp's 7th season, his 7th season at Dortmund was eerily similar with them on a downward spiral.

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Kaladin wrote:

Kaladin wrote:Pool have been struggling as of late and they were extremely lucky to score last minute in the previous match.

Mind you this is Klopp's 7th season, his 7th season at Dortmund was eerily similar with them on a downward spiral.

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Great, now go atone for your sins in the Napoli thread

El Gunner wrote:Downward spiral, wheels have fallen off!

Myesyats wrote:

El Gunner wrote:Downward spiral, wheels have fallen off!

This man tried to quote a March 2021 thinking nothing is different, damn brother Myeyes, are you okay? I am worried about you

I didnt imply that nothing is different, for starters the one thing that changed is Liverpool can't afford PED's anymore because they've splurged all their cash on a guy called Darwin.

TAA looks like he cant even be bothered to defend these days? He used to be decent at it whilst still proving so much in attack. Not sure who is to cover his back as every team attacks that area n Klopp hasnt been able to fix this obvious problem after so long? Fabiano? Elliot? whoever pairs van Dijk? Henderson n Milner obviously cant anymore...

At least Thiago is back... still pretty sure Liverpool can resolve things soon... at least they need to make it till the WC n sign a real midfielder in Jan. or have their players back...

As good as he is, I don't think Mané alone is the reason why Liverpool are going through a slump, which is what I keep reading all over the internet. It's only speculation, but as people have mentioned several times before, Liverpool have been playing in 5th gear for quite a few seasons now, while the rest of the league have mostly been a step below in overall work rate.

I don't know how they've managed to sustain it for so long, but I imagine it has taken a greater toll on their ageing players, who aren't exactly at an age where you'd expect a critical decline in this day and age, but they are entering their 30s after running like machines for half a decade.

That includes Thiago Alcantara, who has not always been a part of their strenuous machine era, but has been among the few players that were brought in to bolster their midfield. He's already 31. The signings made by the club right after Klopp's arrival were top tier, but apart from Thiago, the standard has really dropped in that regard. It was probably never realistic that the club would pull another Salah, Van Dijk or Mane out of their ass, but nevertheless, the club's lack of proper bolstering where it's been necessary was bound to catch up to them sooner or later.

this one might be my favorite

Literally just standing there not anticipating the header at the back post pic.twitter.com/Iw58ReGIWX

— DSK (@0161Darren) August 6, 2022

Myesyats wrote:this one might be my favorite

Literally just standing there not anticipating the header at the back post pic.twitter.com/Iw58ReGIWX

— DSK (@0161Darren) August 6, 2022

justice for Marcelo imo. He never defended THIS bad

Still wait for someone to defend his defending, we Liverpool fans have never.

El Gunner wrote:dude's just vibes and cross inshallah

Can you blame us when he has the highest assists every season and then on parallel chances created as KDB in every season? Should we drop him?

Actually an honest question for everyone, what do we do with Trent? We know he will hit 15 assists a season, how do we counter the occasional goal? Unless this just a stfu he is a shit player thread.

Myesyats wrote:this one might be my favorite

Literally just standing there not anticipating the header at the back post pic.twitter.com/Iw58ReGIWX

— DSK (@0161Darren) August 6, 2022

Ma wanted to watch the goal scored in 4k

Nishankly wrote:Still wait for someone to defend his defending, we Liverpool fans have never.

El Gunner wrote:dude's just vibes and cross inshallah

Can you blame us when he has the highest assists every season and then on parallel chances created as KDB in every season? Should we drop him?

Actually an honest question for everyone, what do we do with Trent? We know he will hit 15 assists a season, how do we counter the occasional goal? Unless this just a stfu he is a shit player thread.

Wouldn't that be on the coach to get him to pull his ass when defending. Nobody should be THAT bad and if he does that week in week out then the coach either doesn't mind or he's not getting his message across. If TAA is having those numbers and you can't get him to change then you have to have another player cover. I remember in Marcelo's prime, when he was too good to drop, we got Casemiro to cover him and it worked so maybe Fabinho or Henderson can come down when he leaves his post and don't put him in the box on corners for crying out load, have him as one of the players on the edge of the box when the corners are played. Someone really needs to sit him down and show him a compilation of all his bloopers

halamadrid2 wrote:

Nishankly wrote:Still wait for someone to defend his defending, we Liverpool fans have never.

El Gunner wrote:dude's just vibes and cross inshallah

Can you blame us when he has the highest assists every season and then on parallel chances created as KDB in every season? Should we drop him?

Actually an honest question for everyone, what do we do with Trent? We know he will hit 15 assists a season, how do we counter the occasional goal? Unless this just a stfu he is a shit player thread.

Wouldn't that be on the coach to get him to pull his ass when defending. Nobody should be THAT bad and if he does that week in week out then the coach either doesn't mind or he's not getting his message across. If TAA is having those numbers and you can't get him to change then you have to have another player cover. I remember in Marcelo's prime, when he was too good to drop, we got Casemiro to cover him and it worked so maybe Fabinho or Henderson can come down when he leaves his post and don't put him in the box on corners for crying out load, have him as one of the players on the edge of the box when the corners are played. Someone really needs to sit him down and show him a compilation of all his bloopers

Well this is how we won trophies with Trent and Klopp or what do you think, it just happened.
There is a reason Klopp preferred Hendo or Milly on the right, and always avoided playing Thiago/Keita on his side. More than covering for him physically , if you ever rewatch/remember games, Hendo/Miller had Trent's ear full with scouse swearing which helped him to readjust position during the game.

Helmer wrote:

halamadrid2 wrote:

Nishankly wrote:Still wait for someone to defend his defending, we Liverpool fans have never.




Can you blame us when he has the highest assists every season and then on parallel chances created as KDB in every season? Should we drop him?

Actually an honest question for everyone, what do we do with Trent? We know he will hit 15 assists a season, how do we counter the occasional goal? Unless this just a stfu he is a shit player thread.

Wouldn't that be on the coach to get him to pull his ass when defending. Nobody should be THAT bad and if he does that week in week out then the coach either doesn't mind or he's not getting his message across. If TAA is having those numbers and you can't get him to change then you have to have another player cover. I remember in Marcelo's prime, when he was too good to drop, we got Casemiro to cover him and it worked so maybe Fabinho or Henderson can come down when he leaves his post and don't put him in the box on corners for crying out load, have him as one of the players on the edge of the box when the corners are played. Someone really needs to sit him down and show him a compilation of all his bloopers

Well this is how we won trophies with Trent and Klopp or what do you think, it just happened.
There is a reason Klopp preferred Hendo or Milly on the right, and always avoided playing Thiago/Keita on his side. More than covering for him physically , if you ever rewatch/remember games, Hendo/Miller had Trent's ear full with scouse swearing which helped him to readjust position during the game.

I don't know but we've ALWAYS targeted TAA whenever we've played Liverpool and that's on 4 different occasions. If they were covering for him they haven't done it properly

Kaladin wrote:

Kaladin wrote:Pool have been struggling as of late and they were extremely lucky to score last minute in the previous match.

Mind you this is Klopp's 7th season, his 7th season at Dortmund was eerily similar with them on a downward spiral.

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Rangers Arsenal Rangers City in the next 4, defines the season.

Nishankly wrote:Rangers Arsenal Rangers City in the next 4, defines the season.

well it seems like it did not define the season even when we did pretty well in all those games. Very unlucky to not get a draw against Arsenal.
I think this season (probably also next) will be biggest test for Klopp in terms of rebuilding the squad. Almost all the players integral to Klopp's system have turned 31-31-32 years old which are not that old, but it is just that under Klopp not sure if players body will survive the intensity of Klopps football. It seems like players are getting injured slowly. And obviously, Klopp is not ruthless like Pep to spend 500m on midfielders or forward line (like Pep did to rejuvenate City's defence line) to get us quickly back on track. So I see a very slow and painful process to win anything under Klopp again.

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— David Ornstein (@David_Ornstein) November 7, 2022

This is going to be interesting. Let us see how lucky we are. We are in a good position commercially and could improve further. On pitch performance are entirely up to how long Klopp stays with Liverpool.

It can be finally be that "DOWNHILL" as the thread suggested. Or ... let us see.

oil money time

I will prefer whinning and complaining about lack of money my whole foooking life over having the oil money.
I will still support the club if oil money comes in, but will not be my first preference as owner and it will be very sad supporting a club with such owners.

El Gunner wrote:what's the difference between those with oil money and American capitalist colonisers?

El Gunner wrote:what's the difference between those with oil money and American capitalist colonisers?

good point. There's really no one who ethically has made billions

Helmer wrote:I will prefer whinning and complaining about lack of money my whole foooking life over having the oil money.
I will still support the club if oil money comes in, but will not be my first preference as owner and it will be very sad supporting a club with such owners.

That's BS and you know it

The problem is owners injecting unlimited amounts without any oversight and through fake companies being run out of a mailbox. Source of money being oil is not a crime in itself, just have some transparency and oversight (and limits) with regards to the funding