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Post by Doc Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:00 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Doc wrote:Historically the best goal keeper ever is Lev Yashin but hey, let's be all Italy, all the time today...

Not sure if serious.

Not sure if you're serious as well...

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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:02 pm

Doc wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Doc wrote:Historically the best goal keeper ever is Lev Yashin but hey, let's be all Italy, all the time today...

Not sure if serious.

Not sure if you're serious as well...

Lev Yashin is a nobody compared to Dino Zoff. Talk to me when you can back up your ridiculous statement.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:02 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Doc wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Doc wrote:Historically the best goal keeper ever is Lev Yashin but hey, let's be all Italy, all the time today...

Not sure if serious.

Not sure if you're serious as well...

Lev Yashin is a nobody compared to Dino Zoff. Talk to me when you can back up your ridiculous statement.

You killed it.
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Post by izzy Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:04 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:Lev Yashin is a nobody compared to Dino Zoff. Talk to me when you can back up your ridiculous statement.

What? Are you serious? Suspect
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Post by the xcx Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:05 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Doc wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Doc wrote:Historically the best goal keeper ever is Lev Yashin but hey, let's be all Italy, all the time today...

Not sure if serious.

Not sure if you're serious as well...

Lev Yashin is a nobody compared to Dino Zoff. Talk to me when you can back up your ridiculous statement.
fail is strong on this one.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:06 pm

A fail ? What has he won compared to Dino Zoff ? Personal awards ?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:07 pm

right back section
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:09 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:right back section

I would, but that would be considered a troll post. It is so unrealistic and incomparable.
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Post by Doc Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:10 pm

izzy26 wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:Lev Yashin is a nobody compared to Dino Zoff. Talk to me when you can back up your ridiculous statement.

What? Are you serious? Suspect

The man is considered the greatest goalie in the history of football, even voted best goal keeper of the 20th century by those silly statisticians down in IFFHS and apparently, for the 1st time in my internet viewing history, he's a nobody compared to Dino Zoff who is a legendary keeper in his own right mind you.

Go figure...
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Post by izzy Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:13 pm

Doc wrote:
izzy26 wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:Lev Yashin is a nobody compared to Dino Zoff. Talk to me when you can back up your ridiculous statement.

What? Are you serious? Suspect

The man is considered the greatest goalie in the history of football, even voted best goal keeper of the 20th century by those silly statisticians down in IFFHS and apparently, for the 1st time in my internet viewing history, he's a nobody compared to Dino Zoff who is a legendary keeper in his own right mind you.

Go figure...

I'm still just in shock by that statement. Shocked
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:15 pm

Dino Zoff made his international debut for Italy in 1968 against Bulgaria in the quarter-final against Bulgaria in the 1968 European Championships. He went onto represent Italy in 112 international matches and won the European Championships in 1968 and also skippered Italy to the 1982 World Cup finals, making himself the oldest winner of the World Cup ever. He is the oldest player to ever win a trophy and holds the record for the longest playing time without conceding goals in international competitions (1142 minutes) set between 1972 and 1974.

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Post by Doc Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:18 pm

It's not the comparison that is killing me (2 legendary keepers mind you), it's the line about being a nobody compared to Dino Zoff that is making it so wrong and full of bias that reeks beyond the realms of cyber space. After which I cannot take you serious Juve on this issue anymore, go preach to the choir or something...
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:19 pm

Doc wrote:It's not the comparison that is killing me (2 legendary keepers mind you), it's the line about being a nobody compared to Dino Zoff that is making it so wrong and full of bias that reeks beyond the realms of cyber space. After which I cannot take you serious Juve on this issue anymore, go preach to the choir or something...

When did he lead his country to a World Cup ? The oldest player to win a World Cup mind you. 1982 aged 40.
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Post by Doc Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:21 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Doc wrote:It's not the comparison that is killing me (2 legendary keepers mind you), it's the line about being a nobody compared to Dino Zoff that is making it so wrong and full of bias that reeks beyond the realms of cyber space. After which I cannot take you serious Juve on this issue anymore, go preach to the choir or something...

When did he lead his country to a World Cup ? The oldest player to win a World Cup mind you. 1982 aged 40.

As I said, go preach to the choir with your unrelenting bias. I would not be indulging in such foolishness...
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:21 pm

Doc wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Doc wrote:It's not the comparison that is killing me (2 legendary keepers mind you), it's the line about being a nobody compared to Dino Zoff that is making it so wrong and full of bias that reeks beyond the realms of cyber space. After which I cannot take you serious Juve on this issue anymore, go preach to the choir or something...

When did he lead his country to a World Cup ? The oldest player to win a World Cup mind you. 1982 aged 40.

As I said, go preach to the choir with your unrelenting bias. I would not be indulging in such foolishness...

Cool story bro, I will keep that in mind.
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Post by drakefyre Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:42 pm

I dont really like comparing players , but let me know when Zoff wins a Ballon D'or.

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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:47 pm

drakefyre wrote:I dont really like comparing players , but let me know when Zoff wins a Ballon D'or.


Cool. One award. Let me know when Yashin wins as much as Zoff in any other category.
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Post by Pedram Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:17 pm

Bias level of italian fans is so ridiculous. i thought Barca fans were the most biased fans but you guys beat them in that aspect.
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Post by Sushi Master Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:23 pm

Meh, Maier > All, anyways.

But really, if you want goalkeepers German and Italian ones are always solid.
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Post by scirea6 Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:24 pm

drakefyre wrote:I dont really like comparing players , but let me know when Zoff wins a Ballon D'or.


Did Maldini win Ballon D'or ?? , did Del Piero win , did raul win ?? . Ballon d'or is not how you tell the quality of a champion.

El Pipita wrote:Bias level of italian fans is so ridiculous. i thought Barca fans were the most biased fans but you guys beat them in that aspect.

Hilarious coming from a RM fan.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:27 pm

El Pipita wrote:Bias level of italian fans is so ridiculous. i thought Barca fans were the most biased fans but you guys beat them in that aspect.

Bit of a generalization would you not say ?
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Post by free_cat Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:31 pm

I don't thin spanish GK are overated. De gea is a tremendous GK and will prove it.
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Post by Pedram Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:57 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Bias level of italian fans is so ridiculous. i thought Barca fans were the most biased fans but you guys beat them in that aspect.

Bit of a generalization would you not say ?

I can give you name if you're interested but not in public discussion.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:58 pm

El Pipita wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Bias level of italian fans is so ridiculous. i thought Barca fans were the most biased fans but you guys beat them in that aspect.

Bit of a generalization would you not say ?

I can give you name if you're interested but not in public discussion.

Most likely going to be Wigglesworth, but sure, why not. Message me.
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Post by The Madrid One Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:59 pm

hm appears this became a goalkeeper flame war...

people make assumptions without definite proof, like the o.p, you might observe somethings and then get smacked in your face when youre suddenly proven wrong.

not strong enough point plain and simple, needs more backing up.

goalkeepers no matter where their from have to have leadership,a great mentality, and positioning and they will find their way to where ever they go.
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:04 pm

Spanish GKs are the best in the world by a mile.

Casillas
Reina
Valdes
Guita
De Gea

Just a few names.

And lev yashin the best? I guess by this logic, Meazza is the best of all time.

Yashin spent his time playing in a soviet russian league with players of skill and tactics which were prehistoric and not to count that the ball of today is 5 times harder then to save back then.

Buffon, Kahn, Meir, Schmiecel and Casillas are all far more proven then Yashin.
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