La Liga (Week 4): Valencia vs FCBarcelona

~~~ La Liga (Week 04) ~~~
Wed 21 Sep, 2011
Valencia CF vs FC Barcelona @ 10PM Barcelona Time / 11PM Beirut Time

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>> STATS vs Osasuna<<

~Barcelona & Valencia head to head: 165 matches ( 77W, 41D, 47L) including 81 Away matches (30W, 17D, 34L).

~Barcelona & Valencia head to head: Barcelona scored 307 goals & conceeded 245 (128 away goals & conceeding 142 away from home )

~Biggest Win vs Valencia: 6-0 ( Season 2007/2008 & 1958/1959)

~Biggest Away win vs Valencia: 0-4 (Season 1993/1994)

~Barcelona vs Valencia (Guardiola Era since 2008/2009): 6 matches (4W, 2D, 0L) scored 12 goals & conceeded 3 goals. At the Mestalla: 3 matches (1W, 2D, 0L) scored 3 goals & conceeded 2.

2010/2011 ( Round 26): Valencia CF 0 - 1 FC Barcelona
2010/2011 ( Round 7): FC Barcelona 2 - 1 Valencia CF
2009/2010 ( Round 26): FC Barcelona 3 - 0 Valencia CF
2009/2010 ( Round 7): Valencia CF 0 - 0 FC Barcelona
2008/2009 ( Round 33): Valencia CF 2 - 2 FC Barcelona
2008/2009 (Round 14): FC Barcelona 4 - 0 Valencia CF


~ Victor Valdes played 16 matches against Valencia in La Liga & conceeded 12 Goals (7 cleansheets).

~ Lionel Messi played 11 matches vs Valencia scored 6 goals & made 3 assists.

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`More Stats Later..

`Barca Stats 2011/2012 (details): https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t6061-barca-stats-2011-2012

Messi STATS:

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t77-leo-lionel-messi

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Injury List:

- Pique ( Should be back next week)
- Iniesta (4 Weeks) - Injured on 13 September
- Alexis (8 Weeks) - Injured on 10 September

League (Week 07): Sun 16 Oct FC Barcelona vs Racing
Iniesta should be back vs Racing

League (Week 12): Sun 20 Nov FC Barcelona vs Zaragoza
Alexis should be back vs Zaragoza!


Full Schedule: https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t6061-barca-stats-2011-2012#172468

Toughest game yet for me. Obviously that Supercopa game away was big, but the Supercopa isn't that important.

Its pretty important we get a good result from this one as we don't want to give Madrid an early lead in the league. Valencia are very hard to beat at home, going to be tough.

Who should he pick for his front 6??? Same team as today? Or Pedro or Afellay in?

BarcaKizz wrote:Toughest game yet for me. Obviously that Supercopa game away was big, but the Supercopa isn't that important.

Its pretty important we get a good result from this one as we don't want to give Madrid an early lead in the league. Valencia are very hard to beat at home, going to be tough.

Who should he pick for his front 6??? Same team as today? Or Pedro or Afellay in?

its a must win..
i think Guardiola will replace Thiago by Pedro..

Valdes

Alves Masch Puyol Abidal

Xavi Sergio Cesc

Pedro Messi Villa

Why start Afellay Cholla? He is not fully fit and Pedro is better than him atm.

free_cat wrote:Why start Afellay Cholla? He is not fully fit and Pedro is better than him atm.

I would start Afellay and use Pedro in second half as impact sub. Pedro will have around 60 minutes to think why is he on bench. And that could motivate him.
Peple are saying that he is not in form, I don't agree, he just needs more moivation, and Afellay can be that X-Factor for Pedro's motivaton. Start will give more motivaton for Afellay to.

Perhaps we should keep the same lineup. This diamond is working well for us because our full backs give us enough width.

messixaviesta wrote:Perhaps we should keep the same lineup. This diamond is working well for us because our full backs give us enough width.

The last game was practically a 3-4-3 anyway.......


And i agree we should keep it unless we come across a team that totally nullifies it.....

keep it ass it is I say... Fabregas and Messi can guaranty goals while thiago, xavi, busqueets in the midfield seems to work fine

Nothing's broke, so don't expect a shakeup.

I'm going to predict 2-5 for Barca. Soldado is on fire right now I think he'll score.

Chance to go top of the table clear...I hope we take it...

Also, I'm starting to like this 3-4-3(when will pique be back anyway?)

----------Puyol--------Masch---------Abidal---
-Alves--------Xavi---------Busi---------Thiago---
---------------------Cesc------------------------
------------Messi-------------Villa-----------

Although Cesc tends to drift out left . This is actually a very solid lineup and I look forward to seeing more 3-4-3 combinations this season(not necessarily the lineup I named)

The 3-4-3 brings back memories but I feel it leaves us too vulnerable if we face a team with great width.

LEVANTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! GOOOOOOO!

BarcaKizz wrote:LEVANTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! GOOOOOOO!

"Barcelona training this morning saw Gerard Pique train at full intensity along with his team mates"

Sir_Psycho_Sexy91 wrote:The 3-4-3 brings back memories but I feel it leaves us too vulnerable if we face a team with great width.

Well with Abidal as part of the back 3 and Alves part of the attack it's easy to revert back to 4-3-3, not really an issue imo.

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

Sir_Psycho_Sexy91 wrote:The 3-4-3 brings back memories but I feel it leaves us too vulnerable if we face a team with great width.

Well with Abidal as part of the back 3 and Alves part of the attack it's easy to revert back to 4-3-3, not really an issue imo.

I was envisioning the lineup without Alves.

Tbh. As far as formation goes... as long as we have the platform of Alves (in his Right Boss role) + Masch-Puyol-Abidal and Busquets at DM, the other 5 positions should pick themselves. Not to fussed who they are, our players are all very versatile and talented they'll be fine.

The main question is, play the out of form Pedro? Or the inexperienced Thiago? I'll give Pedro another chance, he's a big game player.

Barca Training report (Monday, 19/9/2011)
- Pique Trained normally with the group
- Iniesta & Alexis recovering from their injuries
- 4 B team players (Muniesa, Cuenca, Armando and Riverola) in trainings today!!


http://www.fcbarcelona.cat/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada11-12/09/19/n110919119288.html

Note: Kieta didn't play against Osasuna..

We will play against Valencia AWAY.. so will Guardiola play with Kieta?

No Keita please!!

Ps. Khaled, it's Keita, not Kieta! :p

Keita did not play and we wan 8-0.
So... DON'T PLAY KEITA!!!

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
The last game was practically a 3-4-3 anyway.......

Puyol Mascherano Abidal
Busquets
Xavi Thiago
Cesc
Alves Messi Villa

Tell me something. I was ill this time and didn't observe carefully.

Why do you say Dani Alves was the right winger and not the right back?

Did he not bring out the ball from defense when the play was on the right? Did he not take all throw ins on the right flank including those that happened in our half? If the answers to both these questions is yes then I think we should call him a right back. If that's not the case then I will have to agree that it was indeed a 3 CB system.

BarcaKizz wrote:LEVANTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! GOOOOOOO!

Yes kizz, That was such an unexpected thrill. Whenever Mourinho's team loses or even draws a match there is only one individual to blame and that is the referee.