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Managers winning percentage
I thought it would be interesting to make a list... Active coaches only.
Number of games, number of teams and winning percentage. In order of winning percentage. In case a manager have been at a club in different tenures it counts as one team. I've not added managers who don't have complete stats at Wikipedia (thus several german manager, Löw, Hitzfield and Heynckes for example are not listed):
Josep Guardiola, 196 games, 1 team, 71,94 % wins.
Jose Mourinho, 523 games, 6 teams, 68,26 % wins.
André Villas-Boas, 101 games, 3 teams, 67,33 % wins.
Louis Van Gaal, 747 games, 6 teams, 58,92 % wins.
Vicente Del Bosque, 308 games, 3 teams, 58,77 % wins.
Alex Ferguson, 2060 games, 5 teams, 57,82 % wins.
Fabio Capello, 581 games, 5 teams, 56,8 % wins.
Guus Hiddink, 687 games, 13 teams, 56,48 % wins.
Roberto Mancini, 455 games, 4 teams, 55,38 % wins.
Carlo Ancelotti, 776 games, 5 teams, 55,15 % wins.
Kenny Dalglish, 622 games, 4 teams, 54,5 % wins.
Arsene Wenger, 1297 games, 4 teams, 53,35 % wins.
Frank Rijkaard, 394 games, 5 teams, 53,05 % wins.
Rafael Benitez, 670 games, 5 teams, 52,24 % wins.
Giovanni Trapattoni, 1194 games, 11 teams, 52,06 wins.
Sven-Göran Eriksson, 905 games, 12 teams, 51,71 % wins.
Manuel Pellegrini, 444 games, 5 teams, 51,13 % wins.
Harry Redknapp, 1236 games, 5 teams, 40,45 % wins.
Guardiolas stats truly are impressive in a historic context, let us see if he can keep it up in the future when he eventually ventures to different pastures. It's also not arguable if Mourinho is on the fast track to becoming one of, if not the, best coach in modern history.
Number of games, number of teams and winning percentage. In order of winning percentage. In case a manager have been at a club in different tenures it counts as one team. I've not added managers who don't have complete stats at Wikipedia (thus several german manager, Löw, Hitzfield and Heynckes for example are not listed):
Josep Guardiola, 196 games, 1 team, 71,94 % wins.
Jose Mourinho, 523 games, 6 teams, 68,26 % wins.
André Villas-Boas, 101 games, 3 teams, 67,33 % wins.
Louis Van Gaal, 747 games, 6 teams, 58,92 % wins.
Vicente Del Bosque, 308 games, 3 teams, 58,77 % wins.
Alex Ferguson, 2060 games, 5 teams, 57,82 % wins.
Fabio Capello, 581 games, 5 teams, 56,8 % wins.
Guus Hiddink, 687 games, 13 teams, 56,48 % wins.
Roberto Mancini, 455 games, 4 teams, 55,38 % wins.
Carlo Ancelotti, 776 games, 5 teams, 55,15 % wins.
Kenny Dalglish, 622 games, 4 teams, 54,5 % wins.
Arsene Wenger, 1297 games, 4 teams, 53,35 % wins.
Frank Rijkaard, 394 games, 5 teams, 53,05 % wins.
Rafael Benitez, 670 games, 5 teams, 52,24 % wins.
Giovanni Trapattoni, 1194 games, 11 teams, 52,06 wins.
Sven-Göran Eriksson, 905 games, 12 teams, 51,71 % wins.
Manuel Pellegrini, 444 games, 5 teams, 51,13 % wins.
Harry Redknapp, 1236 games, 5 teams, 40,45 % wins.
Guardiolas stats truly are impressive in a historic context, let us see if he can keep it up in the future when he eventually ventures to different pastures. It's also not arguable if Mourinho is on the fast track to becoming one of, if not the, best coach in modern history.
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Oh, make the stats for other coaches and I'll add them to the list. I've surely missed alot of important names.
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You might want to check transfermarkt.de - they have stats for coaches, too. Here for ex Jupp Heynckes:
http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/jupp-heynckes/aufeinenblick/trainer_90.html
http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/jupp-heynckes/aufeinenblick/trainer_90.html
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To have the percentage and manage 6 different teams is remarkable. He is a class above everyone. Kudos to Mou.
Edit: Yes and SAF.
Edit: Yes and SAF.
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Mourinho is a successful coach, of which, there is no doubt. However, calling him a class above everyone is just foolish!
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Actually Guardiola's stats aren't impressive. At 196 games he stands the second lowest in that list, coaching in unarguably one of the least competitive leagues and with only 1 team.
Mourinho on the other hand is just...amazing.
Mourinho on the other hand is just...amazing.
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Almost every manager in that list requires an elite performance with at least one team in order to have such a career average, and without knowing the statistics, I'd expect that if each manager's best team were extracted, Guardiola's record would stand up with the best of them.
Winning percentage can't be the only thing to determine how great a manager is however. Trapattoni is quite low on that list, however his collection of trophies is incredible.
Winning percentage can't be the only thing to determine how great a manager is however. Trapattoni is quite low on that list, however his collection of trophies is incredible.
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Well, you need to look at the clubs the guys coached - Mourinho's marks mainly came together by coaching absolute top clubs (at least the percentage at transfermarkt with 66,75% wins only includes numbers for Real, Inter, Chelsea and Porto - there are no numbers for Benfica and Leiria given).
If you look at Heynckes, he also coached clubs like Eintracht Frankfurt and Borussia M'gladbach with which you just cannot amass wins as the players are simply not up to it.
I'd love to see if Mourinho would be able to gather a 2/3 winning streak with my home team RWO. But with RWO he'd have to make do with an overall budget of 4 mio Euros for players & staff (meaning the wages) and no means to buy players - so he'd have to scout wisely and try to get them for free. I bet trying to coach under such circumstances would be quite a lot different from "I get to buy every player I wish".
If you look at Heynckes, he also coached clubs like Eintracht Frankfurt and Borussia M'gladbach with which you just cannot amass wins as the players are simply not up to it.
I'd love to see if Mourinho would be able to gather a 2/3 winning streak with my home team RWO. But with RWO he'd have to make do with an overall budget of 4 mio Euros for players & staff (meaning the wages) and no means to buy players - so he'd have to scout wisely and try to get them for free. I bet trying to coach under such circumstances would be quite a lot different from "I get to buy every player I wish".
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I think conte's percentage would he high. Young coach, promotions with bari/Siena and juve doing well
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BTW, if you only look at Heynckes' stats with Bayern (whom he coached thrice so far), he played 194 matches and gattered 1,99 points per match (66% wins) and 2,15 goals for versus 0,97 goals against.
With all clubs combined (I count all clubs where he is listed as coach, that is 9), Heynckes only gets a winning average of 47,67% - but those numbers alone don't really make him a bad coach as you can see with the percentage he gets with a good team.
BTW, when Heynckes coached Real, he reached 2,19 points/game, that is 72,67% wins.
With all clubs combined (I count all clubs where he is listed as coach, that is 9), Heynckes only gets a winning average of 47,67% - but those numbers alone don't really make him a bad coach as you can see with the percentage he gets with a good team.
BTW, when Heynckes coached Real, he reached 2,19 points/game, that is 72,67% wins.
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I would love to see if Boas, VDB, Guardiola, Hiddink and Fergie can keep there percentage's up managing RWO rather than just managing the best clubs.
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The problem with this sort of list is that not all coaches managed the same teams. As a result, the variables are not being held constant across the board so this makes for an inadequate comparison. How can you compare Guardiola, who has managed only Barca, to Hiddink who has managed South Korea, Turkey and Russia - certainly good teams but not elite ones. It's a good stat to see, but it doesn't have much practical use.
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:The problem with this sort of list is that not all coaches managed the same teams. As a result, the variables are not being held constant across the board so this makes for an inadequate comparison. How can you compare Guardiola, who has managed only Barca, to Hiddink who has managed South Korea, Turkey and Russia - certainly good teams but not elite ones. It's a good stat to see, but it doesn't have much practical use.
Well ofcourse this is true, but there is also a correlation between which club you coach and what level you are on (or rather rated at by the market). Hiddink had his shot at elite level club football with Real Madrid but failed and then wasn't hired by any elite club afterwards, he ended up at Betis instead. Before he started his international career. His numbers on an international level is impressive thou, but even there you have to consider that South Korea and Australia for example don't have the most competitive qualifier groups which give you easy wins.
If Mourinho were to be fired from Real Madrid he would surely not be hired by Betis or even consider the job.
Also, Mourinhos stats with Leira, the small time portuguese club he coached before coaching Porto is at the same level as Hiddinks with Real Madrid.
Mourinhos stats with Real Madrid are 73,61 % wins. The best of his career.
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I agree with Alfred. For example, this system does not take into account the difference in the era some of these managers worked in.
The best this list can show is the number of elite managers in the world today and it simply cannot be used to differentiate between them.
The best this list can show is the number of elite managers in the world today and it simply cannot be used to differentiate between them.
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Do you have the stats for Mourinho's stint at Leiria? I didn't see them at transfermarkt.depaperbackwriter wrote:Well ofcourse this is true, but there is also a correlation between which club you coach and what level you are on (or rather rated at by the market). Hiddink had his shot at elite level club football with Real Madrid but failed and then wasn't hired by any elite club afterwards, he ended up at Betis instead. Before he started his international career. His numbers on an international level is impressive thou, but even there you have to consider that South Korea and Australia for example don't have the most competitive qualifier groups which give you easy wins.
If Mourinho were to be fired from Real Madrid he would surely not be hired by Betis or even consider the job.
Also, Mourinhos stats with Leira, the small time portuguese club he coached before coaching Porto is at the same level as Hiddinks with Real Madrid.
Mourinhos stats with Real Madrid are 73.61 % wins. The best of his career.
BTW, here are the stats transfermarkt.de gives for Löw: http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/joachim-loew/aufeinenblick/trainer_495.html
His average of his career is 53.85% wins, but if you look at his German NT career, there he gathered an average of 2.20 points/match in 75 matches so far, giving a whopping 73.33% wins (and that with all of his experimentation and a team that usually doesn't take friendlies serious).
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Leira stats: Win 11 Draw 5 Lose 4 GF 47 GA 28
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Ah. Thx.
BTW, the record prolly goes to Vicente de Bosque for his stint at the Spanish NT. In 48 matches, he gathered 2,65 points/match, making it an amazing 85.22% wins.
BTW, the record prolly goes to Vicente de Bosque for his stint at the Spanish NT. In 48 matches, he gathered 2,65 points/match, making it an amazing 85.22% wins.
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rwo power wrote:Ah. Thx.
BTW, the record prolly goes to Vicente de Bosque for his stint at the Spanish NT. In 48 matches, he gathered 2,65 points/match, making it an amazing 85.22% wins.
Yeah truly impressive. Villa-Boas stint at Porto with 84,48 % in 58 games is the most impressive I've seen at club level.
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Steve Bruce?
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Real11 wrote:Steve Bruce?
579 games, 7 teams, 36,79 % wins.
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It's Josep Guardiola, not Jose Mou is superior to him because he maintained his winning quote with 6 different teams in 3 times as much matches (roughly) yet the difference between him and Josep is just mere 4%paperbackwriter wrote:I thought it would be interesting to make a list... Active coaches only.
Number of games, number of teams and winning percentage. In order of winning percentage. In case a manager have been at a club in different tenures it counts as one team. I've not added managers who don't have complete stats at Wikipedia (thus several german manager, Löw, Hitzfield and Heynckes for example are not listed):
Josep Guardiola, 196 games, 1 team, 71,94 % wins.
Jose Mourinho, 523 games, 6 teams, 68,26 % wins.
André Villas-Boas, 101 games, 3 teams, 67,33 % wins.
Louis Van Gaal, 747 games, 6 teams, 58,92 % wins.
Vicente Del Bosque, 308 games, 3 teams, 58,77 % wins.
Alex Ferguson, 2060 games, 5 teams, 57,82 % wins.
Fabio Capello, 581 games, 5 teams, 56,8 % wins.
Guus Hiddink, 687 games, 13 teams, 56,48 % wins.
Roberto Mancini, 455 games, 4 teams, 55,38 % wins.
Carlo Ancelotti, 776 games, 5 teams, 55,15 % wins.
Kenny Dalglish, 622 games, 4 teams, 54,5 % wins.
Arsene Wenger, 1297 games, 4 teams, 53,35 % wins.
Frank Rijkaard, 394 games, 5 teams, 53,05 % wins.
Rafael Benitez, 670 games, 5 teams, 52,24 % wins.
Giovanni Trapattoni, 1194 games, 11 teams, 52,06 wins.
Sven-Göran Eriksson, 905 games, 12 teams, 51,71 % wins.
Manuel Pellegrini, 444 games, 5 teams, 51,13 % wins.
Harry Redknapp, 1236 games, 5 teams, 40,45 % wins.
Guardiolas stats truly are impressive in a historic context, let us see if he can keep it up in the future when he eventually ventures to different pastures. It's also not arguable if Mourinho is on the fast track to becoming one of, if not the, best coach in modern history.
Come back in 3-4 years with the same stats for him
I wouldn't even take the stats for coaches who had less than 400 matches
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babun1024 wrote:It's Josep Guardiola, not Jose Mou is superior to him because he maintained his winning quote with 6 different teams in 3 times as much matches (roughly) yet the difference between him and Josep is just mere 4%paperbackwriter wrote:I thought it would be interesting to make a list... Active coaches only.
Number of games, number of teams and winning percentage. In order of winning percentage. In case a manager have been at a club in different tenures it counts as one team. I've not added managers who don't have complete stats at Wikipedia (thus several german manager, Löw, Hitzfield and Heynckes for example are not listed):
Josep Guardiola, 196 games, 1 team, 71,94 % wins.
Jose Mourinho, 523 games, 6 teams, 68,26 % wins.
André Villas-Boas, 101 games, 3 teams, 67,33 % wins.
Louis Van Gaal, 747 games, 6 teams, 58,92 % wins.
Vicente Del Bosque, 308 games, 3 teams, 58,77 % wins.
Alex Ferguson, 2060 games, 5 teams, 57,82 % wins.
Fabio Capello, 581 games, 5 teams, 56,8 % wins.
Guus Hiddink, 687 games, 13 teams, 56,48 % wins.
Roberto Mancini, 455 games, 4 teams, 55,38 % wins.
Carlo Ancelotti, 776 games, 5 teams, 55,15 % wins.
Kenny Dalglish, 622 games, 4 teams, 54,5 % wins.
Arsene Wenger, 1297 games, 4 teams, 53,35 % wins.
Frank Rijkaard, 394 games, 5 teams, 53,05 % wins.
Rafael Benitez, 670 games, 5 teams, 52,24 % wins.
Giovanni Trapattoni, 1194 games, 11 teams, 52,06 wins.
Sven-Göran Eriksson, 905 games, 12 teams, 51,71 % wins.
Manuel Pellegrini, 444 games, 5 teams, 51,13 % wins.
Harry Redknapp, 1236 games, 5 teams, 40,45 % wins.
Guardiolas stats truly are impressive in a historic context, let us see if he can keep it up in the future when he eventually ventures to different pastures. It's also not arguable if Mourinho is on the fast track to becoming one of, if not the, best coach in modern history.
Come back in 3-4 years with the same stats for him
I wouldn't even take the stats for coaches who had less than 400 matches
At Real Madrid, Jose's stats are better than Peps. Oh and corrected the name.
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The stats are usefull to compare the old guard with each other For example, Van Gaal has got a higher winning quote than Ancelotti in roughly the same number of matches but which of them won more trophies?paperbackwriter wrote:babun1024 wrote:It's Josep Guardiola, not Jose Mou is superior to him because he maintained his winning quote with 6 different teams in 3 times as much matches (roughly) yet the difference between him and Josep is just mere 4%paperbackwriter wrote:I thought it would be interesting to make a list... Active coaches only.
Number of games, number of teams and winning percentage. In order of winning percentage. In case a manager have been at a club in different tenures it counts as one team. I've not added managers who don't have complete stats at Wikipedia (thus several german manager, Löw, Hitzfield and Heynckes for example are not listed):
Josep Guardiola, 196 games, 1 team, 71,94 % wins.
Jose Mourinho, 523 games, 6 teams, 68,26 % wins.
André Villas-Boas, 101 games, 3 teams, 67,33 % wins.
Louis Van Gaal, 747 games, 6 teams, 58,92 % wins.
Vicente Del Bosque, 308 games, 3 teams, 58,77 % wins.
Alex Ferguson, 2060 games, 5 teams, 57,82 % wins.
Fabio Capello, 581 games, 5 teams, 56,8 % wins.
Guus Hiddink, 687 games, 13 teams, 56,48 % wins.
Roberto Mancini, 455 games, 4 teams, 55,38 % wins.
Carlo Ancelotti, 776 games, 5 teams, 55,15 % wins.
Kenny Dalglish, 622 games, 4 teams, 54,5 % wins.
Arsene Wenger, 1297 games, 4 teams, 53,35 % wins.
Frank Rijkaard, 394 games, 5 teams, 53,05 % wins.
Rafael Benitez, 670 games, 5 teams, 52,24 % wins.
Giovanni Trapattoni, 1194 games, 11 teams, 52,06 wins.
Sven-Göran Eriksson, 905 games, 12 teams, 51,71 % wins.
Manuel Pellegrini, 444 games, 5 teams, 51,13 % wins.
Harry Redknapp, 1236 games, 5 teams, 40,45 % wins.
Guardiolas stats truly are impressive in a historic context, let us see if he can keep it up in the future when he eventually ventures to different pastures. It's also not arguable if Mourinho is on the fast track to becoming one of, if not the, best coach in modern history.
Come back in 3-4 years with the same stats for him
I wouldn't even take the stats for coaches who had less than 400 matches
At Real Madrid, Jose's stats are better than Peps. Oh and corrected the name.
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paperbackwriter wrote:
Josep Guardiola, 196 games, 1 team, 71,94 % wins.
Jose Mourinho, 523 games, 6 teams, 68,26 % wins.
Mou
Just 3 percent below Guardiola...Considering he coached Benfica,Leiria and Porto and Pep just jumped the SuperBarca wagon,Mou>>>>>>>>>>Pep
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