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Post by jibers Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:30 pm

Right who is the better passer Ozil or Messi? Long pass, through balls, short pass, crossess.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:59 pm

Messi of course.

Ozil passing is great, but he lacks experience
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Post by the xcx Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:10 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Messi of course.

Ozil passing is great, but he lacks experience
haha wat?
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Post by jontsu Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:14 pm

Ozil is great but Messi is the best at this too.
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:16 pm

They didn't play passes at Schalke and Bremen? Sad
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Post by Mamad Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:24 pm

Ozil of course. he is a better passer than messi.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:38 pm

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St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Messi of course.

Ozil passing is great, but he lacks experience
haha wat?

He lacks experience, it's written in plain english.

He lacks the experience level Messi has with his passing. Messi has been playing top level football since he is 19, and his skills developed incredibly fast that way. Not to say that Bremen was crap, but they were no barcelona.

There is also a "passing" culture at barcelona, and being in contact with naturally gifted passers like Xavi, Iniesta or Guardiola is a huge plus. He used to play with the likes of Ronnie and Deco as well back in the days. Messi has the whole passing arsenal covered to a greater extent. He doesnt play a lot of long balls due to his position, but short range, he is class. he plays them through, lofted, bent, and his final balls are nasty. He plays difficult passes in every competition, at different levels, and it matters. Pressure doesnt affect his skill.

Ozil is better on long range, and he will continuously improve his passing. I think playing for top clubs help young talented players grow faster, and he is no exception. He can already play some amazing passing and he will only get better.
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Post by jibers Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:38 pm

Mamad wrote:Ozil of course. he is a better passer than messi.

I think Messi is a better passer personally.
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Post by billy_gr Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:45 pm

Messi is better unless he plays frustrated
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Post by Pedram Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:53 pm

Messi can pull off some deadly through ball but in term of overall passing, ball distributing and playmaking Mesut is better.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:00 pm

El Pipita wrote:Messi can pull off some deadly through ball but in term of overall passing, ball distributing and playmaking Mesut is better.

ball distribution and playmaking has more to do with vision and position, and both players dont play the same position at all.

But even then, i think Messi easily matches Messi when it comes to playmaking. He does it incredibly well with Argentina.
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Post by jibers Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:06 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Messi can pull off some deadly through ball but in term of overall passing, ball distributing and playmaking Mesut is better.

ball distribution and playmaking has more to do with vision and position, and both players dont play the same position at all.

But even then, i think Messi easily matches Messi when it comes to playmaking. He does it incredibly well with Argentina.

Actuall they do play pretty similar positions. Messi drops deep and basically plays an AMC just like ozil and does better. neiter of themn dictate the game. Messi is better than ozil at pretty much everything tbh.
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Post by rwo power Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:16 pm

IMO Messi's disadvantage is that he plays in a somewhat worse NT even though he is really great at club level, while Özil can shine in both club and NT.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:17 pm

jibers wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
El Pipita wrote:Messi can pull off some deadly through ball but in term of overall passing, ball distributing and playmaking Mesut is better.

ball distribution and playmaking has more to do with vision and position, and both players dont play the same position at all.

But even then, i think Messi easily matches Messi when it comes to playmaking. He does it incredibly well with Argentina.

Actuall they do play pretty similar positions. Messi drops deep and basically plays an AMC just like ozil and does better. neiter of themn dictate the game. Messi is better than ozil at pretty much everything tbh.

true, they play similar positions, but their roles are different.
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Post by Ganso Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:22 pm

messi is better at everything other than long balls and maybe crossing.honestly though,how is ozil winning this poll?
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Post by billy_gr Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:42 pm

By Oezil being cuter
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Post by alexjanosik Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:43 pm

Messi is better.He has taken his passing to another level this season.
Ozil is an excellent passer himself but Messi is simply better.

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Post by guest7 Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:43 pm

Özils crossing is better. That's it

Messi wins this, he is a top 5 passer nowadays IMO
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Post by free_cat Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:53 pm

Who's the girl St Nick of Goal?

Obviously Ozil will win. Anyone is better than Messi at anything.
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Post by the xcx Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:59 pm

Özil is better passer than Messi.
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Post by Raptorgunner Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:32 pm

LOL how is this even a fare you should put Ronaldo and Ozil vs Messi. :facepalm:
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:02 pm

TBH I can't detect much difference in skill in terms of passing between Özil and Messi.

Messi is better at pretty much everything else though, so who cares :p
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Post by Seppuku Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:08 pm

I would put more weight behind a good passer in a counter attacking football team than a good passer in a possession style team.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:09 pm

Seppuku wrote:I would put more weight behind a good passer in a counter attacking football team than a good passer in a possession style team.


why is that?
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Post by the xcx Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:14 pm

The poll would have been much fairer if it was Özil vs Xabi imo. Both bring something special to the table, and always produces wc passes and crosses. Özils passes are meant to be more creative tho. Oh about the experiance then, its a not big factor of being a good passer.
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