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Post by Babun Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:46 pm

Arbeloa has been a defensive frailty all season long bar the last month. In big games, he steps up which us admirable but he was at fault for many goals conceded this season.

Knee jerk is knee jerk. We'll keep him but someone else for rotation is needed.

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Post by VanDeezNuts Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:11 pm

prior to the bayern and barca games arbeloa was in probably the worst slump of his life- his positioning and overall play was just miserable.

but to answer your question i dont think hes underrated i think hes rated just fine. he is a defensive minded RB who is typically good at positioning and defending but his biggest weak point is how slow he is.

his lack of speed is really what got him into trouble this season as he would get caught wayyyyy to far up the pitch and wouldnt be able to recover. at least when marcelo does this he has the quickness to recover most times.

also i am very thankful that he stepped up to the big stages against barca and bayern because i was really worried about him in particular.

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Post by Bellabong Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:16 am

"Defensive minded RB"

See that's where Madrid fans get it all wrong. I have to agree with some posters that Madrid, and Mourinho's teams in general rely on attacking fullbacks over midfield dominance to create opportunities and space.

I'd take Arbeloa over Rafinha any day, if anyone is familiar with both.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:03 am

Phritz wrote:"Defensive minded RB"

See that's where Madrid fans get it all wrong. I have to agree with some posters that Madrid, and Mourinho's teams in general rely on attacking fullbacks over midfield dominance to create opportunities and space.

I'd take Arbeloa over Rafinha any day, if anyone is familiar with both.

im not really understanding your point, is arbeloa not defensive minded?

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Post by Jack Daniels Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:55 am

He is very reliable as a full back. Though he was crap for 6 months this season, I was amazed by his performances last hell week.

What a time to step up. Shame we came up against Germans on a penalty shootout lol.
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Post by Red Alert Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:19 am

"Does nothing upfront"

lol. That's not his job. His job is to defend and he does it with ease. Mourinho has always had either a solid LB (or RB) with the alternative being attacking minded.

The reason to replace him is because of his age... in his 30's now, isn't he?
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:24 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:I have to agree that Azpi made Ribery look like CR7 when faced off against any decent fullback.

In laymans terms, he made him so invisible you couldn't even see his scar.

1st or 2nd leg..

The crowd made Ribery look invisible in the first leg against Marseille

Probably the lamest excuse I've heard like....ever.

So by this logic, every winger/player is invisible because of the away crowd.

Do you even realize more than half of Marsielle's stadium is under repair which leaves a small portion of fans to cheer against them?

Do you even realize how hilarious this statement was?

Azpi made him disappear and thats about it.
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Post by Senor Penguin Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:36 pm

ynwa wrote:"Does nothing upfront"

lol. That's not his job.
Who claimed that it was? The reason it's not his job is because he's not capable of attacking as well as certain other backs.

Arquitecto wrote:Azpi made him disappear and thats about it.
Dat basque talent.

Azpi, Monreal and Iraola :bow:

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Post by punkfusion1992 Tue May 01, 2012 1:26 am

he is under rated by Madrid fans
me personally, I like him, an intelligent player, but 90% of Real Madrid fans expect every player on the field, including and especially, defenders, to be able to make defence splitting passes, not make a single mistake, make sure the player being marked never gets the ball, and be able attack like Ronaldo/Messi

maybe its just me, but this guy had 3 bad weeks all season, and people called for his head
imo he has 2-3 good years ahead of him and by that time Carvajal would take over
that is a more sensible plan but it wont happen
tactically he does what Abidal used to do for Barca, only attack when the ball was on his side, his crosses werent great but i didnt expect much from his attacking forays and normally he held on to the ball in attack to find either Di Maria or Ozil
but in defense he is just fine, dealt with Ribery and Tello quite easily despite his lack of pace and keeps his game simple and straight forward
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Post by The Messiah Tue May 01, 2012 1:35 am

punkfusion1992 wrote:he is under rated by Madrid fans
me personally, I like him, an intelligent player, but 90% of Real Madrid fans expect every player on the field, including and especially, defenders, to be able to make defence splitting passes, not make a single mistake, make sure the player being marked never gets the ball, and be able attack like Ronaldo/Messi

maybe its just me, but this guy had 3 bad weeks all season, and people called for his head
imo he has 2-3 good years ahead of him and by that time Carvajal would take over
that is a more sensible plan but it wont happen
tactically he does what Abidal used to do for Barca, only attack when the ball was on his side, his crosses werent great but i didnt expect much from his attacking forays and normally he held on to the ball in attack to find either Di Maria or Ozil
but in defense he is just fine, dealt with Ribery and Tello quite easily despite his lack of pace and keeps his game simple and straight forward

End of thread.... :bow:
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue May 01, 2012 1:55 am

He keeps it simple in attack. Not a problem for me, we have marcelo.
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Post by The Messiah Tue May 01, 2012 1:57 am

He keeps it simple in everything. Arbeloa to Bayern..
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Post by Red Alert Wed May 02, 2012 5:19 am

Senor Penguin wrote:Who claimed that it was?

People that are saying he should be sold because he doesn't offer anything upfront?
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Post by Lord Awesome Wed May 02, 2012 3:48 pm

I was called a "nutchutter" for rating him.


Looks like I was right about Arbeloa.
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Post by guest7 Thu May 03, 2012 5:07 pm

ARBELOA IS UNDERRATED



ARBELOA :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Post by Red Alert Sat May 05, 2012 2:35 am

Wannabe Reina.
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Post by teamanarchy Sat May 05, 2012 10:26 am

I'm gonna have to agree, Arbeloa is incredibly consistent. He's not supremely talented or otherwise incredible... but he's solid and is decent in both defense and attack. To put the cherry on top he has no complaints when sitting on the bench, and he's also from our academy, which is a big extra...
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Post by The Messiah Sat May 05, 2012 5:15 pm

I didn't know he was from Madrid Academy
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Post by punkfusion1992 Sat May 05, 2012 5:21 pm

Idrisozet wrote:I didn't know he was from Madrid Academy

yup he was captain before he moved to Depor
he also helped take Castilla to 6th in la Segunda
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Post by The Messiah Sat May 05, 2012 7:01 pm

punkfusion1992 wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:I didn't know he was from Madrid Academy

yup he was captain before he moved to Depor
he also helped take Castilla to 6th in la Segunda

and Who said Madrid do not have Home-Grown players.

If I am not mistaking.

Cassilas, Marcelo, Arbeloa and Higauin.
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Post by punkfusion1992 Sat May 05, 2012 7:04 pm

Idrisozet wrote:
punkfusion1992 wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:I didn't know he was from Madrid Academy

yup he was captain before he moved to Depor
he also helped take Castilla to 6th in la Segunda

and Who said Madrid do not have Home-Grown players.

If I am not mistaking.

Cassilas, Marcelo, Arbeloa and Higauin.
dont forget Adan, Callejon, Granero
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Post by The Messiah Sat May 05, 2012 7:07 pm

Add to that Raphaël Varane and Ramos is almost like one too, it's a myth that Madrid don't train their own players, it's looks to me thier youth system is good.
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Post by Sushi Master Sat May 05, 2012 7:08 pm

Higuain ain't a homegrown Madrid player.

Mata and a few others are, though.
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Post by guest7 Sat May 05, 2012 7:09 pm

Idrisozet wrote:Add to that Raphaël Varane and Ramos is almost like one too, it's a myth that Madrid don't train their own players, it's looks to me thier youth system is good.

We've alot of youths outside Real Madrid aswell.

Soldado, Eto'o, Juan Mata, Diego Lopez. Wink
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Post by che Sat May 05, 2012 7:11 pm

madrid have the best youth system in spain lol, thank god they refuse to use it Laughing
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Post by punkfusion1992 Sat May 05, 2012 7:11 pm

Sushi Master wrote:Higuain ain't a homegrown Madrid player.

Mata and a few others are, though.

Higuain and Marcelo came to us at 18 and 19
thats normally considered the age when you can be considered trained at the club
according to UEFA that is
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