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Post by Red Alert Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:32 am

You're judging it on the Euros? Rolling Eyes

What are your opinions on the Dutch, then?

Chiellini is superior. Reads the game better, doesn't panic and is more dominant in the air.

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Post by Valkyrja Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:04 am

But Pepe is faster, better tackler, his anticipation is excellent, and he is stronger.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:04 am

ffs this juventus guy must be the most deluded person in this board.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:10 am

Also chuckled at Podolski not starting at Tottenham. Come on now Laughing
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Post by The Franchise Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:30 am

RedOranje wrote:
The Franchise wrote:You thought Bale played leftback...you shouldnt even be allowed to talk about football. Godamn.

But for a while he DID play LB.

I am very aware of that. But if one is going to talk about who Bale is or is not better than, surely you need to know where they play now..or at least the last 2 years.
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Post by izzy Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:36 am

juventus101 wrote:Podolski would start over Sanchez, Nene/Menez, or Di Maria any day of the week. Would have a rough time at Bayern cuz Kroos is better as a CM but Podolskis better overall. So id say the only team he wouldnt start for is Bayern. Not sure exactly how City play or who starts, so wont comment on them.

Marchisio is slightly better than all of Busquets, Khedira, and Gustavo in my opinion. I could see him starting anywhere.

Modric would displace Di Maria, and if he can play on the wings of a 433 could start in Barca and Juve too. Dunno about Modric vs Kroos.

Alba could start anywhere except for Madrid, and Bayern is Lahm moved back to LB, but with Alba, Lahn woukd stay on the right.

Chiellini could start ANYWHERE without any doubt in my mind in my opinion.


juventus101 wrote:I thought Bale started at LB. Anyways, just saw Tottenham live against the Red Bulls. Bale was impressive, but id take Podolski any day.

And ive hyped him long enough? He was a top 5 goalscorer as a second striker in the Bundesliga, in a team that got relegated. He also scored 16 goals in 19 games when played centrally. Ive also seen him play live on multiple occasions, and ive seen alot of players live, including Diego, Schurrle, Henry, Beckham, Dempsey, Donovan, Lennon, Bale, etc and Podolski was definitely the best ive seen. Maybe im not overrating him, maybe you just are underrating him bscause he had one poor internatuonal tournament since 2004.

The bit in blue is just incredible. Laughing
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Post by Pedram Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:57 am

Huntsman, you have a competitor.
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Post by Mamad Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:26 am

Podolski? really?
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Post by Die Borussen Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:49 pm

dont make me laugh pepe is better then chiellini


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Post by Juveman17 Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:48 pm

Pepe is the best CB in the world. Thiago Silva has been injured this season, same for Vidic so those two are out of the question. Pepe is always a great CB and I believe he is number 1.

If Thiago Silva and Vidic come back the same way they were before injury, then this would be my list.

1. Thiago Silva
2.Vidic
3.Pepe
4.Chiellini
5.Hummels
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Post by Guest Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:51 pm

^Kompany is better than all of them except Silva perhaps.

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Post by fatman123 Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:51 pm

juventus101 wrote:You think Aaron Lennon is better than Podolski? Podolski would also start over Mata for Chelsea, Welbeck/Chicharito for United, Nene/Menez for PSG, Samchez for Barca and Di Maria for Madrid. Dont know Citys formation or stafters so i sont comment on them. He would also staprt for Bayern over Muller if Kroos is pushed bacj into a CM role, but Kroos is better as a CAM.

Podolski over Mata?
mate, its not only the city team your not familiar with
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:57 pm

All i'm going to say is why are people judging people from the Euros. Particularly Chiellini who was injured the whole time...
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Post by Lex Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:04 pm

Modric has somehow turned into Garrincha, while Podolski has de-evolved into a Sunday league player :facepalm:

This thread is ridiculous
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Post by Onyx Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:20 pm

Di Maria would start at Barca?

Pepe the best CB in the World? hmm

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Post by AnJl Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:02 pm

The Franchise wrote:Who is this Podolski? Did we all forget how he failed so pathetically at Bayern?


Nobody remembers something that didnt happen. He didnt fail miserably at Bayern, you guys need to seriously look at his stats before you start judging his time at Bayern.

For a guy who basically had to come off the bench for most games and was given little time to prove himself, he still did decently well.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/lukas-podolski-his-career-by-numbers

So please, dont say things without any proper knowledge.

(too lazy to type out a full s.a. on his time at Bayern, but if this doesnt appease you, then come at me bro)
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:08 pm

Now that Podolski plays in the EPl we'l actually watch him play and his legend will die

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Post by AnJl Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:26 pm

would it be because he will be playing for Arsenal?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:30 pm

No, his hype wouldn't live up to in any team lol.
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Post by juventus101 Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:36 pm

This is what i think alot of teams would look like with these players available.

CHELSEA:
--Cech--
--Ivanovic-- --Terry-- --CHIELLINI-- --Cole--
--Ramires-- --MARCHISIO-- --MODRIC--
--Hazard-- --Torres-- --PODOLSKI--

BARCELONA:
--Valdes--
--Alves-- --Puyol-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--Xavi-- --MARCHISIO-- --Iniesta--
--PODOLSKI-- --Messi-- --Villa--

REAL MADRID:
--Casillas--
--Ramos-- --Pepe-- --CHIELLINI-- --Marcelo--
--MARCHISIO-- --Alonso--
--PODOLSKI-- --Ozil-- --Ronaldo--
--Benzema--

BAYERN MUNICH:
--Neuer--
--Lahm-- --Badstuber-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--MARCHISIO-- --Schweini--
--Robben-- --Kroos-- --Ribery--
--Gomez--

MILAN:
--Abbiati--
--Abate-- --Mexes-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--Boateng-- --Montolivo-- --MARCHISIO--
--MODRIC--
--Pato-- --PODOLSKI--

JUVENTUS:
--Buffon--
--Lichsteiner-- --Barzagli-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--Vidal-- --Pirlo-- --MARCHISIO--
--Giovinco-- --PODOLSKI-- --Vucinic--

MANCHESTER UNITED:
--De Gea--
--ALBA-- --Vidic-- --CHIELLINI-- --Evra--
--Nani-- --MODRIC-- --MARCHISIO-- --Kagawa--
--Rooney-- --PODOLSKI--

MANCHESTER CITY:
--Hart--
--Richards-- --Kompany-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--MARCHISIO-- --Yaya--
--Silva-- --MODRIC--
--PODOLSKI-- --Aguero--

ARSENAL:
--Szcezny--
--Sagna-- --Vermaelen-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--MODRIC-- --MARCHISIO-- --Arteta--
--Walcott-- --Giroud-- --PODOLSKI--

BORUSSIA DORTMUND:
--Weidenfeller--
--Pisczek-- --Hummels-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--MARCHISIO-- --Bender--
--Gotze-- --MODRIC-- --Reus--
--PODOLSKI--


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Post by juventus101 Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:41 pm

And as someone said before, Podolski did not actually fail at Bayern. He was disliked by Klinsmann who was the coach at the time and did not get alot of time, so his stats are deceiving as most of his appearances were short sub appearances. Podolski is world class and is so underrated its unfair to him, just because people are judging him off of one bad international tournament performance from him since he got onto the international scene in 2004.
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Post by Luca Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:57 pm

Kizu wrote:But Pepe is faster, better tackler, his anticipation is excellent, and he is stronger.

What are you basing this on?
I think Pepe and Chiellini are closer than some think (most usually rate one much higher than the other) but I still rate Chiellini higher in everything but aggression

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Post by che Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:22 pm

podolski better than mata, sanchez, di maria, balotelli and cassano, based on him being the best player for a relegation battler

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Post by izzy Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:26 pm

juventus101 wrote:This is what i think alot of teams would look like with these players available.

CHELSEA:
--Cech--
--Ivanovic-- --Terry-- --CHIELLINI-- --Cole--
--Ramires-- --MARCHISIO-- --MODRIC--
--Hazard-- --Torres-- --PODOLSKI--

BARCELONA:
--Valdes--
--Alves-- --Puyol-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--Xavi-- --MARCHISIO-- --Iniesta--
--PODOLSKI-- --Messi-- --Villa--

REAL MADRID:
--Casillas--
--Ramos-- --Pepe-- --CHIELLINI-- --Marcelo--
--MARCHISIO-- --Alonso--
--PODOLSKI-- --Ozil-- --Ronaldo--
--Benzema--

BAYERN MUNICH:
--Neuer--
--Lahm-- --Badstuber-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--MARCHISIO-- --Schweini--
--Robben-- --Kroos-- --Ribery--
--Gomez--

MILAN:
--Abbiati--
--Abate-- --Mexes-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--Boateng-- --Montolivo-- --MARCHISIO--
--MODRIC--
--Pato-- --PODOLSKI--

JUVENTUS:
--Buffon--
--Lichsteiner-- --Barzagli-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--Vidal-- --Pirlo-- --MARCHISIO--
--Giovinco-- --PODOLSKI-- --Vucinic--

MANCHESTER UNITED:
--De Gea--
--ALBA-- --Vidic-- --CHIELLINI-- --Evra--
--Nani-- --MODRIC-- --MARCHISIO-- --Kagawa--
--Rooney-- --PODOLSKI--

MANCHESTER CITY:
--Hart--
--Richards-- --Kompany-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--MARCHISIO-- --Yaya--
--Silva-- --MODRIC--
--PODOLSKI-- --Aguero--

ARSENAL:
--Szcezny--
--Sagna-- --Vermaelen-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--MODRIC-- --MARCHISIO-- --Arteta--
--Walcott-- --Giroud-- --PODOLSKI--

BORUSSIA DORTMUND:
--Weidenfeller--
--Pisczek-- --Hummels-- --CHIELLINI-- --ALBA--
--MARCHISIO-- --Bender--
--Gotze-- --MODRIC-- --Reus--
--PODOLSKI--

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

Please just stop.
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Post by AnJl Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:37 pm

juventus101 wrote:And as someone said before, Podolski did not actually fail at Bayern. He was disliked by Klinsmann who was the coach at the time and did not get alot of time, so his stats are deceiving as most of his appearances were short sub appearances. Podolski is world class and is so underrated its unfair to him, just because people are judging him off of one bad international tournament performance from him since he got onto the international scene in 2004.

I do agree he is underrated by many here, for multitude of reasons, but I think YOU are overrating him to the point if I walked into the forums for the first time I would think he is second coming of Jesus Christ on a unicorn.

He is a very good player and I am happy to have him at Arsenal, but he will not make it into the likes of Barca, Real, Chelsea (especially now since their recent incoming transfers), Juventus, Man City and Bayern.

But he would make it into the Milan team, Inter team, heck even the Man United team if he is on form.

But would not just walk into any team.
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Post by AnJl Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:38 pm

Oh, whoever said he wouldnt make it into Spurs team has probably lost his marbles.
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