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Post by lenear1030 Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:20 pm

sportsczy wrote:Coquelin is a natural holding CM. Ramsey and DIaby are not that good defensively.... but if you are looking for attacking skills, Coquelin is 3rd in this group by a lot.

I personally think you start Coquelin and push Arteta forward. You put everyone in their natural positions as opposed to trying things out.



im sure thats what we mean. arteta shouldn't really be playing dm for us. with our roster as constituted coqueilin should be partnered with him to provide that defensive stability in midfield, even though coquelin offers more than that

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Post by Eman Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:51 pm

Well when Wilshere is back this will be a no-brainer, but in the meantime I'll say Diaby. When Diaby is at his best, I think he is currently capable of more, and his height, strength, and ability to drive the team forward are qualities that can be very helpful.
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Post by furiouswindbottom Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:31 am

not sure if serious

I meant it. It's time to give him a run in the side unless we sign a big named DM.

He's a lot better than people think.
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Post by Geee Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:16 pm

Ramsey all day ... Pre-injury he was the closest thing we had to Cesc which says alot about his potential.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:15 pm

Diaby is back. He's 70% there. You can see him starting to dominate at times. Giving another few games and he will get close to 100%.

So graceful and efficient when he's right.
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Post by RealGunner Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:13 pm

That's why i love Diaby so much.
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Post by REWB Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:16 pm

calm down, we have all seen this from diaby before, the problem is he has always been consistency and i HATE inconsistent players. lets see him perform like this for 4-5 more games.
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Post by Rev Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:09 pm

Wenger's judgement and trust in his players. :bow:

Agree with REWB, still, I would like to see Coquelin get a start so we can properly compare them.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:27 pm

Coquelin can't effect the attack like Diaby can. Doesn't have the vision and passing skill at this point... not close in fact. Cazorla will get more and more space as teams will need to play Diaby closer.

Besides, Coquelin is a holding midfielder really and nobody wants Arteta benched lol.
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Post by Rev Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:11 pm

I know that, it's just that I see Coquelin as a more rounded player, in the mold of Arteta in the future.

The trio we have now is perfect, but you can always experiment a little, especially when it comes to Diaby's on-off performances. Laughing
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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:20 pm

Diaby is a beast when going forward, it's like having a Yaya Toure in your team.

Was fantastic today.

It's funny, for one week he's Abou Zidane and the other week he's Abou Denilson Razz hope he finds some consistency this season.
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Post by mzamani Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:38 pm

The funny part is that we had this exact debate 3 years ago, before Ramsey got injure, whats funnier is that my thoughts has completely change. My choice is Diaby simply because of what he brings to the table, i cant think of anyone who plays like him. I think it says something about him that Wenger has not lost hope in him after his injuries. Less we forget, he was part of that midfield that lost 1 game the whole season 3 years back.
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Post by waitressinthesky Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:15 pm

Love this Diaby. Stay intact, mate.

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Post by sportsczy Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:19 pm

Diaby has been abso-f-in-lutely magnificent with France NT in the first half against Finland. Best player by far. I mean just breathtaking. Scored a goal and controlled the entire game by himself.
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Post by TalkingReckless Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:21 pm

sportsczy wrote:Diaby has been abso-f-in-lutely magnificent with France NT in the first half against Finland. Best player by far. I mean just breathtaking. Scored a goal and controlled the entire game by himself.

but but he is useless
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Post by djoe26 Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:36 pm

Abou Zidane is back :bow:
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Post by sportsczy Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:27 pm

MOTM. Imperial presence in the game. Went 90 mins no problem. Looked fresh at the end. He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
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Post by Sri Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:34 pm

There there, lets not jinx it :bow:

On topic - I would rotate Diaby with Coquelin and Wilshere to keep him away from the 'red zone'.. Ramsey has potential to play up the field.. Lots of rotation for his with Santi and Rosicky.. Its time for Rambo to learn under stalwarts of that position without getting burdened with first team pressures..

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Post by REWB Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:11 pm

its against finland.....i have nothing against diaby. but he still has a lot to prove. first two games of the season he played very poor, now he is hitting good form. but not against top defensive opposition. if he performs like this for the next 3 epl games. then i will totally change my opinion on him.
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Post by sportsczy Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:14 pm

You realize that in Euro 2012 qualifying, Finland only lost 2-1 to Netherlands and Sweden at home. They park the bus like crazy and are tough at Helsinki. They are an absolute disaster on the road however.

Never easy to play organized PTB teams at their home. To boot, it looked like it was zero degrees lol.
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Post by MJ Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:33 am

REWB wrote:its against finland.....i have nothing against diaby. but he still has a lot to prove. first two games of the season he played very poor, now he is hitting good form. but not against top defensive opposition. if he performs like this for the next 3 epl games. then i will totally change my opinion on him.

lol, you have nothing against him? You declared that he 'sucks' and has 'no potential' and that if Coquelin didn't start over him against Liverpool then you'd lose faith in Wenger or something like that. I just don't understand how you could say something about his talent when the fact of the matter is he's just been injured. It has nothing to do with his potential, he played just fine the first two games and has been exquisite ever since. This is the fit Diaby. There was never a fit Diaby who was underwhelming per your criticism.
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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:04 am

I think all players should have their own personal trainer..
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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:38 am

Giggity5313 wrote:I think all players should have their own personal trainer..

Agreed, especially players at Arsenal Laughing
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Post by Highburied Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:46 am

When you ask this question Ramsey or Diaby...

Is it with a DM right??

They both can play in same lineup.
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Post by TalkingReckless Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:31 pm

highburied wrote:When you ask this question Ramsey or Diaby...

Is it with a DM right??

They both can play in same lineup.

Well Arteta is playing our DM/DLP atm. With Diaby the B2B
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Post by waitressinthesky Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:29 pm

Nobody's replacing Arteta or Cazorla in the midfield unless one of those two gets injured (PLEAAAAAASE NO!!!!). And I see both of those players pretty much playing 90 minutes all season. So I don't see Ramsey and Diaby playing at the same time. But it's great to start Diaby and sub him off if he's getting tired with Ramsey.

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