January Transfer Rumours 3

Anzhi are trying to sign Kaka.Roberto Carlos is in Madrid to try to persuade Kaka to join the team.

Value is relative. For example, Madrid has already recovered its transfer fee and wages + made a handsome profit on CR7 because Madrid can monetize a player like very few other clubs, if any.

Monetization formulas drive value. It's different for everyone.

worms wrote:I guess €20m isn't that bad a deal.Depending on wages of course.

#HalaMadrid Milan are trying to comply with FFP unlike City who are bank rolled by a some rich arab.

We all play by the same rules.

How we'll comply is by making more and more money. Sky are anxious to give every premiership club even more filthy lucre starting next season which should propel our already miserly revenues to well over 330M euros a season.

Not our fault of course but the world can't get enough of the premier league you see.

What we'll receive for a Balotelli including the wage reduction is a chance to blow the lot on an Edinson Cavani in the summer.

The reality being of course that with the extra money coming in and the Balotelli cash then Cavani wouldn't cost a penny.

Even Platini and his minions will like that.

Arf!!!

Forza Rossoneri wrote:

halamadrid2 wrote:

Forza Rossoneri wrote:
Go to cyberman's thread about why he is annoyed with Milan over the Balotelli deal. You will find out that the source of his annoyance is not actually Milan, but that rich clubs like Man U and Madrid get gypped and pay over the odds for players.

I dont think we will ever pay 20 mill for ballo, he is semi-talented with attitude issues

I agree we might have over payed for one or two players like kaka and modric but you cant deny how the core of our very young team have all exceeded their "value" and are actually making us profit from them

besides we are run by the fans I.e we have no owners so everything we spend it will have been earned by the result of players that we bought in or promoted

look at atleti for example they sell aguero for nearly 40 and buy falcao for 30 swift business without any complaints from either party

if you look at milan and most of the serie a teams, players are either co-owned or bought in installments. never payed upfront

you have a rich owner where is all the money. I mean ibra who only costed you 18 or so was paid for in installment EIGHTEEN then you get about 50 by selling him and silva yet you are still adamant to pay it through installment. I can see why you haven't bought anyone from the portuguese league they dont fluff around with a fee broken down into 20 installments

please enlighten me

1. To say that Madrid have only bought 1 or 2 players over value is ridiculous. Whether players like Coentrão are in "the core" of your team is irrelevant to the fact that they were overpriced when you bought them.

2. Pretty sure Falcao was signed for €40million. Not to mention that Atletico are going to have to sell him because they don't even have the money to pay Porto for him! Also, the deal was in installments. See this article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/european/9535299/Europa-League-winners-Atletico-Madrid-fall-foul-of-financial-fair-play-rules-as-Uefa-withholds-prize-money.html

3. Our owner may be rich, but that counts for nothing if he's a stingy bastard.

4. Ibra cost 24m + bonuses which were paid in instalments of 9m (until we sold him). Ibra's wages were also around 9m which means that + tax, his wages were far more than the transfer fee and that's why it was unsustainable to keep him.

1. sorry totally forgot about him. but at least he was playing regularly and puttinh amazing shifts week in week out. we weren't the only ones after pretty much most top clubs were after him. for us he wss a pointless buy but the fee was understandable based on his performances, demand and consistency

2. I was thinking of pounds, sorry should have made it clear. and atleti only paid half the other was paid by an insurance company. their president said that he would not be sold but if he is its because of his wages and the others which altogether make it very hard for atleti to pay back debt of theirs which was incurred in the 90th and not now

3. barbara can't persuade him

4. seems like the same problem as atleti with the high wage. for example you amelia and someone as co-owned players. I mean these aren't very pricey are they? I just don't understand how everything thats not expensive is co-owned whereas everything expensive is paid in installments. besides didnt you pay 8 in installments for ibra. I remember reading it somewhere.

With Lewis Holtby having finalised his immediate move to Tottenham Hotspur from Schalke, the Bundesliga club now appear to be in a position to sign Michel Bastos from Lyon. Westdeutsche Allgemeine Zeitung says the two clubs have finally reached an agreement, while L'Equipe reports that Bastos will join on loan for 18 months, with Schalke and Lyon in talks about a permanent deal for 2014.

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West Ham United have spent much of the transfer window searching for a new left-back, with the likes of the Leeds United-bound Stephen Warnock wanted at Upton Park. However, another name in the frame is Aly Cissokho, with France Football saying the Valencia defender is a target for West Ham and another London-based club.

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Porto defender Rolando has been strongly linked with a move to Queens Park Rangers this month, and Deportivo La Coruna were also mooted as admirers. However, Corriere dello Sport says Napoli have opened talks with Porto to sign Rolando on an initial loan deal.

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Sky Sports understands Chelsea have made an approach for Birmingham City goalkeeper Jack Butland.

Butland's future has been the subject of intense speculation during this month's transfer window with a host of clubs chasing his signature.

The likes of Liverpool, Everton, Newcastle and Southampton have all been credited with an interest in Butland, but Chelsea have now jumped to the front of the queue for the keeper.

Birmingham boss Lee Clark has admitted that they could be forced to sell Butland due to their ongoing financial concerns.

Despite having Petr Cech as No.1 and Belgian youngster Thibaut Courtois impressing on loan at Atletico Madrid, Chelsea see Butland as a long-term investment.

It remains to be seen if Butland would make the move to Stamford Bridge as he is thought to be keen on moving to a club where he will be playing regular first-team football.

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Sevilla defender Federico Fazio was linked with a move to Liverpool earlier this month. Russia, though, could be his destination with AS reporting that Sevilla are in talks with Zenit St Petersburg regarding a deal to sell Fazio before the transfer window closes.

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According to reports in El Mundo Deportivo, Barcelona president Sandro Rosell is not ruling out the possibility of trying to persuade Victor Valdes to change his mind after the goalkeeper rejected a new contract.

Brazilian midfielder Philippe Coutinho has arrived at Melwood ahead of his move to Liverpool. Brendan Rodgers confirmed yesterday that talks were ongoing between Liverpool and Inter Milan, but the deal looks to have taken a big step forward with Coutinho's appearance on Merseyside.

Briand from Lyon to Monaco... that's a good amount of wages cleared by Lyon. With both Briand and Bastos gone, i doubt Lisandro gets moved.

Atletico Madrid making strong late pushes for Toulalan and Gourcuff...

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is weighing up a new bid for CSKA Moscow midfielder Pavel Mamayev.

The 24 year-old Russian has revealed he had agreed terms with United last year, only to be blocked from making the move due to work permit difficulties.

"I was in shock, it was a dream transfer. The deal was done for around eighty percent, but I could not obtain a work permit with my limited number of caps for Russia," revealed Mamayev.

"Sir Alex Ferguson said he would try to solve it, but the transfer never came."

Mamayev has only two caps for Russia and says he first learned of Ferguson's interest from former United winger Zoran Tosic.

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La Gazzetta dello Sport, meanwhile, says Juventus have had an offer to sign Lisandro Lopez on loan with a view to a €4million (£3.4m) permanent deal rejected by Lyon.

Napoli are lining up a €15m swoop for a pair of Cagliari players, namely Radja Nainggolan and Davide Astori, according to reports surfacing in Corriere dello Sport.

The Partenopei president Aurelio De Laurentiis has long been an admirer of both players and is reported to be set to make a bid for the pair in the next 24 hours.

Massimo Cellino, president of the Rossoblu, could well be tempted by an offer of up to €15m although he has previously stated his desire to keep both.

Belgian midfielder Nainggolan is thought to be the Vesuviani’s main target for his strong performances in the middle of the park at Sardinia although should they fail to entice him to the San Paolo, they will instead move for AC Milan’s Mathieu Flamini.

However, their hopes of landing the Rossoneri’s Antonio Nocerino were dealt a blow after he insisted that he does not want to leave San Siro.

Despite having repeatedly stated to be willing to join back Italian Serie A, Serbian international midfielder Zdravko Kuzmanovic (25), who's likely to leave Stuttgart on a full basis within the end of January, is getting nearer and nearer to be signed by Valencia, according to latest rumours collected by TuttoMercatoWeb.

chemicalboy99 wrote:

worms wrote:I guess €20m isn't that bad a deal.Depending on wages of course.

#HalaMadrid Milan are trying to comply with FFP unlike City who are bank rolled by a some rich arab.

We all play by the same rules.

How we'll comply is by making more and more money. Sky are anxious to give every premiership club even more filthy lucre starting next season which should propel our already miserly revenues to well over 330M euros a season.

Not our fault of course but the world can't get enough of the premier league you see.

What we'll receive for a Balotelli including the wage reduction is a chance to blow the lot on an Edinson Cavani in the summer.

The reality being of course that with the extra money coming in and the Balotelli cash then Cavani wouldn't cost a penny.

Even Platini and his minions will like that.

Arf!!!

What arrogance.

Cavani signed a new long term contract in the summer.What makes you think he would want to join a small club like Man City? Maybe he has higher ambitions ya know?

And Napoli aren't a selling club.Am not saying you will definitely not buy him,there's always a chance your arab money could tempt him.

Cavani is 63 mil brah... And you guys have Tevez, Aguero and Dzeko. I think the last thing you might need is a striker, dont forget that De Laurentis is a stubborn old fellow

If Milan signs Balotelli is game over for Bojan the Reject.

worms wrote:

chemicalboy99 wrote:

worms wrote:I guess €20m isn't that bad a deal.Depending on wages of course.

#HalaMadrid Milan are trying to comply with FFP unlike City who are bank rolled by a some rich arab.

We all play by the same rules.

How we'll comply is by making more and more money. Sky are anxious to give every premiership club even more filthy lucre starting next season which should propel our already miserly revenues to well over 330M euros a season.

Not our fault of course but the world can't get enough of the premier league you see.

What we'll receive for a Balotelli including the wage reduction is a chance to blow the lot on an Edinson Cavani in the summer.

The reality being of course that with the extra money coming in and the Balotelli cash then Cavani wouldn't cost a penny.

Even Platini and his minions will like that.

Arf!!!

What arrogance.

Cavani signed a new long term contract in the summer.What makes you think he would want to join a small club like Man City? Maybe he has higher ambitions ya know?

And Napoli aren't a selling club.Am not saying you will definitely not buy him,there's always a chance your arab money could tempt him.

this... even lavezzi was sold due to his intentions of moving into another city , not that De Laurentiis would want to sell him, and he reinvested those money in the likes of Insigne and Pandev...
Cavani, true napoli warrior , don't care that they're our title rivals as long as they are a fair team with true supporters (they saved the club not long time ago when they were in Serie C) .. They're worthy of respect, not like manchester shitty plastic club.

Tbf to Milan, yes they need to sort out their defense and arguably a midfielder here and there but if they sign Balo they have a front 3 sorted for a decade.

Providing Niang meets expectations, SES-Balo-Niang is a very exciting youthful front 3.

Yep, Imo Bojan is done.. even tho we always want him to succeed cause of his charming innocent looks, he doesnt seem to evolve to anything more than a mediocre player. He wants to dribble and might pull it off, but ends up dribbling one too many, or makes a lousy pass. There is no end product so far in his Italian adventure, and I dont see how that will suddenly change with him.

He should go to a small team for once, where he could actually play games!

free_cat wrote:If Milan signs Balotelli is game over for Bojan the Reject.

You've got to be kidding me on calling Bojan a reject. He had to compete with Messi in a False 9 position to get ahead of him as its incredibly harsh to call him that especially in the disgusting way Barca treating him.

Plans for Bojan are eventually once the squad has balance, he will play behind the striker once again for Milan, a position in which he won MOTM more then 4 times. As of now he is simply in training to build his physique and find chemistry within the team. Milan also hope to buy him for next season and make him an integral part of the young front line.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Tbf to Milan, yes they need to sort out their defense and arguably a midfielder here and there but if they sign Balo they have a front 3 sorted for a decade.

Providing Niang meets expectations, SES-Balo-Niang is a very exciting youthful front 3.

That is only assuming if they sort Balo out which by no means is a guarantee.

Surag wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Tbf to Milan, yes they need to sort out their defense and arguably a midfielder here and there but if they sign Balo they have a front 3 sorted for a decade.

Providing Niang meets expectations, SES-Balo-Niang is a very exciting youthful front 3.

That is only assuming if they sort Balo out which by no means is a guarantee.

Of course, my post was based on the assumption they do.

Arquitecto wrote:

free_cat wrote:If Milan signs Balotelli is game over for Bojan the Reject.

You've got to be kidding me on calling Bojan a reject. He had to compete with Messi in a False 9 position to get ahead of him as its incredibly harsh to call him that especially in the disgusting way Barca treating him.

Plans for Bojan are eventually once the squad has balance, he will play behind the striker once again for Milan, a position in which he won MOTM more then 4 times. As of now he is simply in training to build his physique and find chemistry within the team. Milan also hope to buy him for next season and make him an integral part of the young front line.

I was a Bojan supporter at Barça and I disliked Pep's shunning of him.
However, his career choices have been very poor. He should have moved to Vila-real or other La Liga club where he was an indisputed statert. Instead, he moves to the least suited football league ever for him to a Club where he barely plays. He then decides to move to an even better club in the same unsuited league. All very bad moves showing him and his family/agent doesn't have anything up there.

Don't fool yourself Arqui, Bojan will cotinue to be a role player at Milan unless something weird happens, and I very much doubt that Milan pay what was agreed with Barça for him. He is not staying at Milan or we will see Milan bargaining again at the end of the season, because let's face it, Bojan is not worth 12 milion right now.

If top-transfer market target Paulinho shows himself impossible to be signed from Corinthians within the end of January, Inter management are weighing up the chance to submit Valencia an offer for purchasing Argentinian international half-back Fernando Gago (26), formerly playing for Real Madrid and AS Roma. Currently on a deal with Spanish club until June 2016, the request for his ownership is set at 4 million euros.

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Sky Sports understands that a number of Premier League sides are keen on bringing Lazio striker Mauro Zarate back to England.

Zarate enjoyed a productive loan spell at Birmingham in 2008, with his efforts at St Andrew's helping to earn him a move to Italy.

The Argentine frontman made a bright start to life in Serie A, but has struggled for goals of late.

Lazio are keen to move him on, freeing up funds and space in their squad.

At the age of 25 there is still plenty of football left in Zarate and a move to England could help to reignite his career.

The likes of Sunderland, Stoke and Liverpool are all said to have cast an eye in Zarate's direction.

Sky Sports sources understand Manchester City striker Mario Balotelli will sign a four-and-a-half year contract with AC Milan, subject to passing a medical tomorrow.

free_cat wrote:

Arquitecto wrote:

free_cat wrote:If Milan signs Balotelli is game over for Bojan the Reject.

You've got to be kidding me on calling Bojan a reject. He had to compete with Messi in a False 9 position to get ahead of him as its incredibly harsh to call him that especially in the disgusting way Barca treating him.

Plans for Bojan are eventually once the squad has balance, he will play behind the striker once again for Milan, a position in which he won MOTM more then 4 times. As of now he is simply in training to build his physique and find chemistry within the team. Milan also hope to buy him for next season and make him an integral part of the young front line.

I was a Bojan supporter at Barça and I disliked Pep's shunning of him.
However, his career choices have been very poor. He should have moved to Vila-real or other La Liga club where he was an indisputed statert. Instead, he moves to the least suited football league ever for him to a Club where he barely plays. He then decides to move to an even better club in the same unsuited league. All very bad moves showing him and his family/agent doesn't have anything up there.

Don't fool yourself Arqui, Bojan will cotinue to be a role player at Milan unless something weird happens, and I very much doubt that Milan pay what was agreed with Barça for him. He is not staying at Milan or we will see Milan bargaining again at the end of the season, because let's face it, Bojan is not worth 12 milion right now.

Free, from what I've seen from him being MOTM 4 times in Serie A with Milan and once in Europe, he is more then good enough for Milan.

The thing is since we switched from a 4-3-1-2 to a 4-2-3-1 (Bojan's best formation) to a 4-3-3, Bojan has lost his role within the squad and for the reasons following.

-He has shown he doesn't have the physicality needed to play a CF as of now. In the 4-2-3-1 he played behind the striker and combined fantastically with SES coming out from left as the LAM and was fantastic within this role.

-We then employed him as a False 9 when switched to 4-3-3 in which his general play and creativity was excellent yet the downfall was he lacked the physicality needed to score within the tight spaces which he could not out muscle anyone in.

-Allegri now has been using him as an impact sub for...well the impact he creates when he comes on. Reason being is out wide he isn't optimized upon in the 4-3-3, CF we already covered and there is no space to place him behind the striker. Reason why he is playing non-frequently is because Allegri has told him to build his strength so he can succeed in the #9 role and to an extent, a False 9 as Allegri plays when Pazzini isn't playing.

-4-3-3 is temporary as Allegri has said once the squad finds balance and replaces the long term injured De Jong, he will incorporate a formation which utilizes Bojan back to being behind the striker again. And I will remind he he is fantastic when played in that position. Its a revelation for him there.

-We do intend to buy Bojan as Galliani has said they have made a breakthrough with Barca over the price of Bojan and how they will be willing to lower it for us (I can quote this if you ask). So the price is coming to around 15 million up front. I agree he isn't worth 12 million, simply because I feel he is worth 15 million. Why? I see a guy who has performed majority of the time for Milan even when he is out of position, is 22 and full of potential. I'd pay that money in a heartbeat and I can tell you so would Allegri. Why?

-He is the only hand picked Allegri signing who is said to be a fan of him as Bojan himself acknowledges the plans Milan have for him along with his desire to stay permanently. Bojan along with SES and Niang form a trio who personally train in a specialized Milanello training unit meant for the trio as its a testament to Bojan's importance. Barca may not value him, but Milan certainly do.

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