With no EPL teams progressing in the UCL (probably)

Can the BL pass them in the UEFA coefficient? The lead isn't that large and with the 08/09 season coming off the books, the lead could evaporate pretty quickly.

I think they already have if Bayern wins, don't they?

Doesn't matter, 4 CL spots either way

This co-efficient stuff is nonsense.The 4 major European leagues all deserve 4 AUTOMATIC CL spots!!!!!!

Which one is the 4th Stormer? Ligue 1 or Serie A?

Well surely you can't argue that Ligue 1 is better than serie A.

This is Co-efficient points gained from competing in Europe, when's the last time a ligue 1 team won the CL or got to the final? And it's not like they're dominating in the Europa either.

3 PL teams still in EL compared to only one BL team.


EPL the best eva !!!

Everyone is going on about the CL but the EL is just as important for coefficients. There is only 1 German left in the EL compared to 3 english.

Stormer77 wrote:This co-efficient stuff is nonsense.The 4 major European leagues all deserve 4 AUTOMATIC CL spots!!!!!!

Agreed. Atleast 4 spots, whice 2 are automatic and 2 are with qualification round(s).

European football isnt the same if big, legendary sides arent there.

Italy should earn that 4th spot rather than demand it. Germany deserves it because of the results they have obtained. The usual arguments about why Italy lost the 4th spot are a) Italy doesn't care b) Italian teams have no depth & c) the economic incentives are not strong enough. Well, if you don't care then you shouldn't be butthurt when you lose that 4th spot. The economic incentives are the same for both leagues so why should Italians see them differently than Germans? If Italian teams don't have enough depth what enables the German teams to have enough depth to compete? Perhaps Italy should look north and make a note or twenty about how to run a league.

Serie A will get their 4th spot back pretty soon, they are doing better in the EL (except Napoli ) and now with Juve back, the CL results will be better as well.

Phritz wrote:Which one is the 4th Stormer? Ligue 1 or Serie A?

Serie A.

ligue 1 will definatly gain some co-efficient points with P$G and Monaco having new wealthy owners.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Italy should earn that 4th spot rather than demand it. Germany deserves it because of the results they have obtained. The usual arguments about why Italy lost the 4th spot are a) Italy doesn't care b) Italian teams have no depth & c) the economic incentives are not strong enough. Well, if you don't care then you shouldn't be butthurt when you lose that 4th spot. The economic incentives are the same for both leagues so why should Italians see them differently than Germans? If Italian teams don't have enough depth what enables the German teams to have enough depth to compete? Perhaps Italy should look north and make a note or twenty about how to run a league.

So how does the EL count for co-efficient points,but international football and the NextGen Series don't?How about we play pin the donkey's tale for extra CL places then

But,giving credit where due,Bundesliga found a loophole and exploited it,can't fault them.

Because one is league and the other is international. Apples and oranges.

Well CL expansion comes out in 2015

International football has nothing to do with club competitions.

EL counts less than UCL.

It's not a "loophole" to win more games than the other guys do. That's just working as intended.

I think most people agree the Co-eff system is flawed, and stupid. However, serie A clubs are guilty of not dealing with it and rest nearly every key player in hopes of fighting for a CL place.

Clubs like Napoli are to blame but it doesn't mean the system isn't a joke.

Europa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

VivaStPauli wrote:EL counts less than UCL..

This is not the case. A win or draw the EL gives the same amount of points as a win/draw in CL

Gil wrote:Europa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This, 3 English teams in the semi's i foresee it

Gil wrote:Europa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well, I will defo keep my fingers crossed for Basel in the EL. They managed to win Switzerland a direct CL spot back, so we can hopefully expect Basel back in the CL group stage next season

(And defeating Zenit is a must anyway ^^)

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

VivaStPauli wrote:EL counts less than UCL..

This is not the case. A win or draw the EL gives the same amount of points as a win/draw in CL

teams get 4 bonus points for reaching the group stages of the cl and 5 bonus points for making it out of the groups stages. So for example Doneszk earned 9 points (4 wins/1draw) more in the cl than they would have in the el.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Gil wrote:Europa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This, 3 English teams in the semi's i foresee it

With all the great teams in the competition, many from the better leagues that eliminated or will eliminate all the English teams in the CL, why would you think that? Are you making a joke? From what I see, English and British teams are just not that good.

Don't worry

Nouveau Château and Chelsea will do us proud in the Europa

and EPL will keep its pride the Bundesliga blitz style on serie a

English media have killed the Europa League,now looking at it like a saving grace