Re: The Lionel Messi Appreciation Thread & Fan Club

by BarrileteCosmico Sun 16 Nov - 16:20:22

Bankz wrote:Self delusion...AGAIN!!!God knows where u fish out clueless stats from, Infact i doubt if you knows what those mean even. Thought messi only scored 5 wc goals and 2 copa america goals?..anything to make messi relevant at this point.

Pretty sure the qualifiers would count as competitive matches and explain the difference.

by Ganso Sun 16 Nov - 16:30:58

You keep talking about how Pele has fake stats because of friendlies, but look at all the matches Messi scored against us.3 of them against our u23 team...how about you put how many goals he scored against us in official games Laughing

or maybe you should start posting real stats because out of the top of my head,he only scored 4 times against us, that hattrick on our olympic team and that 1-0 goal in Doha.

Not saying this to hate on Messi btw

by Harmonica Sun 16 Nov - 16:35:47

Ganso wrote:You keep talking about how Pele has fake stats because of friendlies, but look at all the matches Messi scored against us.3 of them against our u23 team...how about you put how many goals he scored against us in official games or maybe you should start posting real stats because out of the top of my head,he only scored 4 times against us, that hattrick on our olympic team and that 1-0 goal in Doha.

Not saying this to hate on Messi btw

The relation is to own team performance, or the team edge, so the opposition doesn't matter. Messi scoring 5 of 8 team goals against Brazil, is more impressive than Pele scoring 8 out of 18 goals against Argentina. In a rational world that is.

by Bankz Sun 16 Nov - 19:12:04

Messi scored 9 in qualifiers plus 7 in 2 world cups and 2 copa americas..thats 16! So...

by BarrileteCosmico Sun 16 Nov - 21:08:56

Hmm yes not sure where those extra 5 goals came from. He only scored twice in the olympics if we're counting those, so that still leaves 3 unaccounted for.

by Harmonica Sun 16 Nov - 21:17:42

Why are you bothering with this obvious forum plant and Neymar sweat hoarder?

Messi 5WC + 2CA + 14WCQ = 21 competitive goals, if you add olympics its 47 and 23.

Is that clear enough?

by Gil Sun 16 Nov - 21:26:07

Has Hazard surpassed Messi in dribbling Jiopsi?

by Hapless_Hans Sun 16 Nov - 21:26:42

wikipedia has a detailed list of all Messi international goals and there it's 21 in competitive games.
No Olympics included in that list.

by Harmonica Sun 16 Nov - 21:28:14

Gil wrote:Has Hazard surpassed Messi in dribbling Jiopsi?

Umm, no.

by Gil Sun 16 Nov - 22:29:02

Harmonica wrote:
Gil wrote:Has Hazard surpassed Messi in dribbling Jiopsi?
Umm, no.

Whoscored and Squawka disagree mate. Eden has a higher percentage rate and averages more per game.

by Harmonica Sun 16 Nov - 22:40:04

Gil wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Gil wrote:Has Hazard surpassed Messi in dribbling Jiopsi?
Umm, no.

Whoscored and Squawka disagree mate. Eden has a higher percentage rate and averages more per game.

What does it say when you factor in the marked factor?

Messi in World Cup 46 dribbles being at least twice as marked as Hazard with 20 dribbles. Also Hazard don't have to carry his teams scoring and assisting.

by FennecFox7 Mon 17 Nov - 5:48:30

Harmonica wrote:
Gil wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Umm, no.

Whoscored and Squawka disagree mate. Eden has a higher percentage rate and averages more per game.
What does it say when you factor in the marked factor?

Messi in World Cup 46 dribbles being at least twice as marked as Hazard with 20 dribbles. Also Hazard don't have to carry his teams scoring and assisting.

by Kuru Mon 17 Nov - 7:46:41

Harmonica wrote:
Gil wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Umm, no.

Whoscored and Squawka disagree mate. Eden has a higher percentage rate and averages more per game.
What does it say when you factor in the marked factor?

Messi in World Cup 46 dribbles being at least twice as marked as Hazard with 20 dribbles. Also Hazard don't have to carry his teams scoring and assisting.

Best poster on GL and I don't care what anybody else say! :bow:

by Valkyrja Wed 19 Nov - 11:22:32

"I live in the present. I think about having a great season and winning trophies with Barça,nothing else. After that we'll see. Football has many twist and turns."

"I've said it a lot of times: if it were up to me I'd stay at Barça forever but you don't always get everything you want in life."

"More so in football, a business that is constantly changing and in which many thing happen."

"It's complicated, especially given the current situation at Barça."

by Harmonica Thu 20 Nov - 8:51:34

Against big clubs

The Lionel Messi Appreciation Thread & Fan Club - Page 30 Messi%20cronaldo%20ronaldo

Some notes

- Cronaldo and Ronaldo have the exact same average against big teams
- Ronaldo has less than half the games against big teams than Messi and Cronaldo currently have
- Messi has 60% better output against big teams than Cronaldo and Ronaldo
- Messi @27 has better overall output against big teams than Cronaldo and Ronaldo together hmm

by elitedam Thu 20 Nov - 13:13:28

So Ronaldo had one assist in 46 games? How selfish!

by shinigami99 Sat 22 Nov - 22:32:41

ffs top scorer in la liga history

by M99 Sat 22 Nov - 22:44:29

by Bankz Sat 22 Nov - 22:49:09

The king.

by Casciavit Sat 22 Nov - 23:00:08

The goat

by RealGunner Sat 22 Nov - 23:05:44

Greatest of all time.

so glad I am seeing him live.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos_h264high/CDB6514B3C1148047334580555776_SW_WEBM_14166900194330a0d38649b.mp4?versionId=DY2i9IvkLBe6kYfrhmd3VKHhV3vYACI_