Neymar Watch

You really want to drag Messi in this discussion do you?

@23 Messi > Neymar for NT

WCU20 Golden Ball/Boot > SA Youth Golden Boot (Brazil won WCU20 even without Neymar)
Olympic Gold Medal > Olympic Silver Medal
CA07 runner-up > CA11 8th
WC10 5th > WC14 4th
WCQ = Confederations Cup

And I mean the relative performance's not the team success.

And Messi did this all flying from Europe to another culture and back, when Neymar was grown in Brazil as his home country.

It's not close, in any perspective.

Harmonica wrote:
Umm, I'm sure Messi has ran more overall in this season than Neymar, he has played 30% more. And he's dribbled twice the players and marking, scoring 50% more goals, creating 4 times the goals for others.

It's completely pointless comparison.

It's pointless because its you, not because of the stats. Dribbling more doesn't mean you will miss more clear-cut opportunities. Out of those 50% more goals, 17% are because of penalties, and most of the rest are stat-padding after the game is won. Worthless.

still don't see what neymar is doing wrong tbh, is he getting too much credit? is that the issue?

chad4401 wrote:still don't see what neymar is doing wrong tbh, is he getting too much credit? is that the issue?

Won't be long till Suarez is a target tbh.

The fanboy generation, FFS.

Muppet wrote:The fanboy generation, FFS.

Great argument. 10/10. You are blatantly a Neymar hater.

chad4401 wrote:still don't see what neymar is doing wrong tbh, is he getting too much credit? is that the issue?

There is no issue. In Gil's case his jimmies are rustled because Hazard went invisible against 10 men PSG while Neymar scored 3 goals against them. In Harmonica's case he feels threatened because of Neymar's superior intl. record compared to Messi's even though no one really thinks Neymar is a better footballer than Messi. And in Muppet's case ... well, he is just another Katy Perry account.

El Messico wrote:

Harmonica wrote:
Umm, I'm sure Messi has ran more overall in this season than Neymar, he has played 30% more. And he's dribbled twice the players and marking, scoring 50% more goals, creating 4 times the goals for others.

It's completely pointless comparison.

It's pointless because its you, not because of the stats. Dribbling more doesn't mean you will miss more clear-cut opportunities. Out of those 50% more goals, 17% are because of penalties, and most of the rest are stat-padding after the game is won. Worthless.

Of course it does when you use more energy and concentration of doing that dribbling, you don't magically receive more of it when you waste it in the game.

What you're saying is that scoring the big chance what you yourself create from the midfield is the same as scoring the big chance you just wait your team dynamic to create to you, which is completely bonkers.

chad4401 wrote:still don't see what neymar is doing wrong tbh, is he getting too much credit? is that the issue?

The issue is that his finishing has been poor this season, Bale level even though he has scored more. I actually posted the statistic showing that his overall goal scoring is great among his peers, but that was actually wrong for some and out of the blue Bankz, Fussball, Elmessico and other insecure Neymar fangirls got sand in their vagina or something, and started talking who knows what, international records in Harlem Globetrotters tour and so on, which has zero relation to his poor finishing this season.

M99 wrote:

Muppet wrote:The fanboy generation, FFS.

Great argument. 10/10. You are blatantly a Neymar hater.

"Hater"

The fanboy go-to term.

Everything you are spouting of his reeks of hate. You call him a flat track bully and then people post his stats to show that he plays well on big games and then you brush that of by saying the only big games are the Madrid teams. That argument does not work since he has a good record against them. Then you go on to say that his stats are inflated because of Messi and Suarez and then ridiculously state that you yourself would do similar if you were playing for Barca and then call people rating Neymar the fanboy generation. That shows signs of a hater. You entered this thread to discredit him and can show no logical argument to prove your statements and then go on to call people who rate him fanboys. So yes, you are a Neymar hater. And it's interesting you name hater the fanboy go to term, fanboy is also a hater go to term.

Harmonica wrote:
What you're saying is that scoring the big chance what you yourself create from the midfield is the same as scoring the big chance you just wait your team dynamic to create to you, which is completely bonkers.

lmao stop using the same gif over and over. Obviously I dont mean dribbling in the same sequence as the goal chance. There are plenty of Messi chances on that site that dont involve him dribbling before taking the shot. In fact, the majority of chances are like that. The Celta game is the massive exception. And it's not like all the chances Neymar is missing are from him simply poaching around the box.

Also lol @ the irony of you calling someone else a fangirl.

There is no way you can call Neymar a poor finisher this season and in the same breath call Messi amazing. Consider this my final post in this discussion.

El Messico wrote:

Harmonica wrote:
What you're saying is that scoring the big chance what you yourself create from the midfield is the same as scoring the big chance you just wait your team dynamic to create to you, which is completely bonkers.

lmao stop using the same gif over and over. Obviously I dont mean dribbling in the same sequence as the goal chance. There are plenty of Messi chances on that site that dont involve him dribbling before taking the shot. In fact, the majority of chances are like that. The Celta game is the massive exception. And it's not like all the chances Neymar is missing are from him simply poaching around the box.

Also lol @ the irony of you calling someone else a fangirl.

There is no way you can call Neymar a poor finisher this season and in the same breath call Messi amazing. Consider this my final post in this discussion.

Even after owning him hard, you still have time to argue with this incorrigible fraud?

He has improved this season. Steps up in big games. His finishing can improve but he is a great player and for me the heir to Messi's throne. The closest fantasisti to Messi atm. I agree with Harmonica in Neymars finishing analysis tbh. He gets a lot of chances.

tbh this game isn't the only one where he has missed sitters.

he is so odd, he can score amazing curlers, or longshots but misses some of the easiest chances.

And usually scores in big times...i can see him or suarez scoring vs. Bayern than messi...

why is everyone comparing these players to messi?

you're only setting them up for dissapointment.
none of these players, hell no player will ever break messi's goal scoring records in the next 10 to 15 years.

if you somehow convince yourself that messi is not a great finisher than find me who is.

Good finishing once again.













RIP Ban kz, El Neymarco and Fussmar  

Also passed Romario's season for Barca in scored goals, probably shouldn't post this because fangirls will only see red in it.  

Harmonica wrote:Also passed Romario's season for Barca in goal scoring, probably shouldn't post this because fangirls will only see red in it.

TBH, all this obssession with individual players is one of the problems I have with football. All his goals and stats are fine and dandy but if Barca win zilch they will mean zilch in turn for me.

Fußball wrote:

chad4401 wrote:still don't see what neymar is doing wrong tbh, is he getting too much credit? is that the issue?

There is no issue. In Gil's case his jimmies are rustled because Hazard went invisible against 10 men PSG while Neymar scored 3 goals against them. In Harmonica's case he feels threatened because of Neymar's superior intl. record compared to Messi's even though no one really thinks Neymar is a better footballer than Messi. And in Muppet's case ... well, he is just another Katy Perry account.

not just that fussbal, I'll also add that harmonica is scared shit that Neymar will eventually replace messi in Barcelona and the fact that neymar's international record (43 goals, 27 assists in 61 games and 10 goals, 5 assists in 15 competitive/cup games) duarfs what ever it is messi has with Argentina.
While Gil is sick that Neymar is to hazard what messi has become to ronaldo. Neymar has stats hazard can only dream about, and more so against big teams 17 goals in 21 games. Envy has thus made his judgment beclouded with dislike. This guy even called Neymar a poacher ffs!!!!
Anyway, 33 goals (still counting) and 8 assists this season.

Neymar, Hazard and James at the moment are up there with Robben as 4 of the best players in the world after Messi and Cristiano. No need to compare them, just enjoy

Valkyrja wrote:Neymar, Hazard and James at the moment are up there with Robben as 4 of the best players in the world after Messi and Cristiano. No need to compare them, just enjoy

Suarez is better than all of them.I would argue Suarez is as good as CR tbh.

Fußball wrote:

So good to watch. Nerman.

This is just incredible. It's so good to see him battle every ball and be focused in the game instead of diving. Neymar never dive.

Adit wrote:Neymar with shit finishing is still only 15 goals behind messi despite playing second fiddle to messi and taking no penssi's....looking at the whole picture it is more impressive than what messi did so far this season.

That's really stretching it. Messi has been sensational scoring a ton and creating like 70% of the goals the rest of the team score (and many times not with direct assists but with splitting passes than then someone turns into an assist, we could call them "pre assists" like the Neymar goal vs Espanyol).