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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:13 pm

Exactly, I understand the Barca players are tailor made to play the way they do and can't really adapt.

They have had resounding success with plan 'A' but the fact is plan 'A' won't always work and the more they use it, the more other teams will adapt.

If you don't have the players to adapt then you're tactically inflexible and you can either sign players who are more comfortable with a more direct plan 'B' or just hope that on the night your original plan is good enough.

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Post by DuringTheWar Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:15 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Diego Armando Maradona wrote:Worst game of messis career
Playing injured usually does that to your performance

Yeah, he played though and it was The worst game of his career. And no, some players have played quite well despite not being fully fit.
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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:15 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Diego Armando Maradona wrote:Worst game of messis career
Playing injured usually does that to your performance

If he was so injured that he couldn't bother pressing a player on the ball 5 yards away then he shouldn't have played. Frankly it was an insult to the players who would have actually put in a better effort.

Cesc and Villa were completely ignored because it's Messi who chooses the team sheet apparently. Villa coming on after the score is 4-0? Really?
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:18 pm

I agree, having an injury is a bad excuse. Everybody gets Injuries. If Messi was so amazingly unfit then he shouldn't have seen the pitch. Bad decision is bad.

Of course, I feel people are just overstating the severity of Messi's injury to make it seem like had he been ' fully fit' he could have done much better and could have taken the game to Bayern.
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Post by Doc Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:19 pm

It was Tito who started a barely fit Messi for such a monumental match. If any blame is to be given, it should be to Tito. He picks the side, not Messi.
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Post by billy_gr Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:22 pm

Why come up with solutions when you can just mock Barca and have the time of your lives.
Be the better men here and enjoy Barca’s demise instead of trying to to save them Smile
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:24 pm

Zealous wrote:If he was so injured that he couldn't bother pressing a player on the ball 5 yards away then he shouldn't have played. Frankly it was an insult to the players who would have actually put in a better effort.

Cesc and Villa were completely ignored because it's Messi who chooses the team sheet apparently. Villa coming on after the score is 4-0? Really?
And I wanted him off the pitch once it became clear he was not able to contribute, unfortunately Tito didn't have the balls for it. Not saying it wasn't a bad decision to play him or to keep him on the pitch.
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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:25 pm

Billy I'm waiting till after our game today to unleash troll mode. If we win :twsited: if we lose Sad :butthurt:
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Post by billy_gr Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:26 pm

how can you loose with CR at your side buddy?
You simply can't
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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:27 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Zealous wrote:If he was so injured that he couldn't bother pressing a player on the ball 5 yards away then he shouldn't have played. Frankly it was an insult to the players who would have actually put in a better effort.

Cesc and Villa were completely ignored because it's Messi who chooses the team sheet apparently. Villa coming on after the score is 4-0? Really?
And I wanted him off the pitch once it became clear he was not able to contribute, unfortunately Tito didn't have the balls for it. Not saying it wasn't a bad decision to play him or to keep him on the pitch.

Think Messi coming on as a sub would have been a much better option. Similar to what was done against PSG.

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Post by Kaladin Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:27 pm

Madrid need to deploy Ronaldo as a TQ in order to win
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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:28 pm

billy_gr wrote:how can you loose with CR at your side buddy?
You simply can't

lol obvious jinx is obvious Smile
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Post by Lex Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:32 pm

Off topic here, but I wouldn't say they squeezed passed Milan. It was fairly comfortable in the end
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Post by Zealous Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:39 pm

Milan allowed it to be comfortable in the second leg.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:43 pm

Bayern were over-confident in the 2nd leg vs Arsenal and lost, it's not unlikely they'll feel as though they already won the tie against Barca as well.
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Post by billy_gr Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:44 pm

again with this "when you win the opponent let you but when you loose it's just you sucking" stuff.
Milan had no option at least on this game.
Just give Barca this much credit
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Post by izzy Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:46 pm

billy_gr wrote:again with this "when you win the opponent let you but when you loose it's just you sucking" stuff.
Milan had no option at least on this game.
Just give Barca this much credit

I agree. They beat Milan with relative ease in the 2nd leg. They deserve credit for the performance they put on.
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Post by billy_gr Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:48 pm

The same for Bayern.
They beat us because they are damn awesome.
Not because we suck or anything.
At least more because of the first and less because of the latter
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Post by jibers Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:53 pm

billy_gr so humble Proud

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Post by billy_gr Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:02 pm

#sometimesimawesome
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Post by sportsczy Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:11 pm

Most often, 4-0 or worse scores are caused by a flood effect... what i mean is that most teams just tank once it gets to be 3-0 and that allows for the scores to get out of control if the other team wishes to pour it on. Most times, teams are satisfied at 3-0 and let it go. But Bayern have been know to try and humiliate teams if possible. Nothing wrong with that btw... it's up to the other team to stop you.

To me, once you get to 3-0... it's a thrashing. Doesn't matter if the score gets worse afterwards.
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Post by windkick Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:13 pm

it's been confirmed Messi's leg injury still wasnt 100% healed but fit enough to play is the word thats been said. Which would explain why he wasnt dropping and running around ala his usual. didn't help he had a rock of a defense on him, Bayern were amazing. Thats where Pedro and Alexis should of came in to help but were also neutralized. Messi is fine, I think it's time for Alexis to go and if Pedro stays then he can't be a starter anymore and should be replaced if thats what he thinks he should be going forward.
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Post by Pedram Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:27 pm

billy_gr wrote:how can you loose with CR at your side buddy?
You simply can't

I sense certain level of reverse jinx in this post. What a Face
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Post by Lex Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:27 pm

Barca have too many useless players. Sanchez, Pedro, Afellay, Song, Tello etc. Couple that with the fact that they have ONE out and out striker...
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Post by Highburied Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:18 pm

The Ostracised One wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:As far as I can remember, he didn't constantly drop deep. By deep I mean constantly drop deep to the halfway line. The majority of the yellow circles are in the opposition half.

But if deep means anywhere that isn't the CF position, then yeh, I agree he did drop deep.

:facepalm:

I'm out of here

Before u get lost...

I guess, by dropping deep, he means Rooney or Etoo (Mou-inter) esque ...

That never happens/ed with Messi.
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