Question about Fabregas

If that embarassment of a football club Barca decide to sell their second best player will he return to Arsenal or go to Utd?

I heard Arsenal have a buy back clause should Barcelona sell, is there any truth to that?

If Wenger brings back Cesc, he completes the Suarez and Bernard deals Arsenal are my personal favourties for the league next year. They have an amazing British core, depth, he best defender in the country and most importantly stability the other contenders severely lack.

Let them sign one of them first.

Surag wrote:

Let them sign one of them first.

Is this because of the Higuain deal?

He wasnt even first choice in my opinion. Limited player.

Echo are reporting a deal for Suarez is close, Bernard seems to be all but done and I'm asking you guys about Fabregas.

2nd best? Better than Xaviesta?

Arsenal have the best defender in the country? Who might that be?  

There's more chance of Pardew playing free flowing football and us finishing top 6 again than Arsenal buying all those players.

Heck even just one of them is unlikely

Blue Barrett wrote:Arsenal have the best defender in the country? Who might that be?  

Koscielny

M99 wrote:2nd best? Better than Xaviesta?

Xavi has been done for about 2 seasons now.

My feelings about Iniesta are well known.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:There's more chance of Pardew playing free flowing football and us finishing top 6 again than Arsenal buying all those players.

Heck even just one of them is unlikely

This is the first summer in years where Arsenal have made noise about having big money to spend.

Seems unlikely but still possible IMO.

I read that Arsenal can match the offer, but its pointless if Cesc would rather join us than Arsenal.

Also Arsenal signing both Suarez and Cesc

Yeah and we'll walk the CL if we sign Bale, Cesc and Thiago Silva

Fantasies are wonderful

Firenze wrote:I read that Arsenal can match the offer, but its pointless if Cesc would rather join us than Arsenal.

Also :rofl:Arsenal signing both Suarez and Cesc

Yeah and we'll walk the CL if we sign Bale, Cesc and Thiago Silva

Fantasies are wonderful

Did Fabregas say that? I thought his first preference is Arsenal.

He hasn't spoken about it to the best of my knowledge, but to quote a wise comment I read, why would he want to take a step backwards rather than a sideways step?

They make noise about it every summer

All i ever hear is about Wenger's warchest

As Lex said before Arsenal's financial muscle is like nuclear weapons.

Often heard about but never seen

BTW even if they did sign Cesc, Suarez and Bernard..... the team would be defensively inept and wouldn't be winning anything.

Defense wins championships.

Gil wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:Arsenal have the best defender in the country? Who might that be?  

Koscielny

FFS you can't be serious. Gil pls.

He is not serious lmao why don't people realise it? Remember the whole Buffon/Juventus/Gil during Confederations Cup

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:They make noise about it every summer

All i ever hear is about Wenger's warchest

As Lex said before Arsenal's financial muscle is like nuclear weapons.

Often heard about but never seen

BTW even if they did sign Cesc, Suarez and Bernard..... the team would be defensively inept and wouldn't be winning anything.

Defense wins championships.

Statistically the 2nd best defense in the League last year. By far the best once Verm was dropped for Kos midway through the year.

And high officials have been the ones shouting about their financial muscle from the rooftops.

Doubt it's just PR stunting like on the past, they've been suprisingly vocal about it. That massive TV deal must be a huge factor I'm guessing.

This is literally the first time I've seen someone write Fabregas is Barcelona's second best player or someone call Koscielny "the best defender in the country". Not that Gil is wrong or right, just, different.

Anyway, Arsenal isn't gonna sign Cesc, Suarez nor do I believe they are gonna get Bernard.

Doc wrote:This is literally the first time I've seen someone write Fabregas is Barcelona's second best player or someone call Koscielny "the best defender in the country". Not that Gil is wrong or right, just, different.

Anyway, Arsenal isn't gonna sign Cesc, Suarez nor do I believe they are gonna get Bernard.

Xavi is done, its almost 3 seasons now,

People prefer Iniesta but I'd take Cex over him any day of the week. Very few midfielders can guarantee you 20/20 goals and assists year in year out. People have been fapping over Mata this year and rightly so but Fabregas has been replicating his form for years now.

Blue Barrett wrote:

Gil wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:Arsenal have the best defender in the country? Who might that be?  

Koscielny

FFS you can't be serious. Gil pls.

The only other contender is Kompany and he's only had one outstanding season. You act like the PL is stacked with Baresi's and Nesta's.

Firenze wrote:He hasn't spoken about it to the best of my knowledge, but to quote a wise comment I read, why would he want to take a step backwards rather than a sideways step?

Why do you want Fabregas anyway. Carrick and Cesc in a midfield two would be a disaster against any decent team.

Gil wrote:
Statistically the 2nd best defense in the League last year. By far the best once Verm was dropped for Kos midway through the year.

Yep and a huge reason for that is the change in system and how much cover the midfield gave the defence after Verm was dropped.

What you are basically doing are bringing Suarez in for Giroud, Cesc for Ramsey and Bernard for Rosicky.

No defensive cover or work rate in front of the back 4 what so ever, the team would be more open and concede a lot more.

Anyway as said before City are walking this league its not even funny, by far the best team and their coach actually knows what he's doing now.

Why do you want Fabregas anyway. Carrick and Cesc in a midfield two would be a disaster against any decent team.

Yet you are advocating Wilshere and Cesc

LOL wut?! FFS even Ivanovic >>> Koscielny

I can't say I agree to what Blue wrote, personally think Koscielny is a more talented defender and probably has the "stats" to back up that claim.

Anyway Gil, while Fabregas has been great in the league, I think the issue is that he brings is that he throws a tactical "wrench" into Barcelona's whole game plan. It usually is mostly exposed when playing games where the opposition is more of a test to Barcelona. But labeling him "2nd best player" isn't that ludicrous to me...

Cesc would play AM, like he did his last two years there. Not the greatest defender by any means but they'd be able to mask his defensive flaws there.

I'm not sure who'd play in the pivot behind him but Wilshere and Ramsey especially have a terrific engine and are above average defenders despite their frame. While there's no difference between Arteta and Carrick as players.

No striker in the World apart from Cavani has better workrate than Suarez.



Unreal lineup if Wenger pulls it off with Bernard, Ox, Giroud, Arteta, Monreal, Verm etc in reserve.

Blue Barrett wrote:LOL wut?! FFS even Ivanovic >>> Koscielny

Ivanovic positional sense is one of the worst I've ever seen. He's probably the worst CB at the club despite his aerial and physical gifts.

Stop it.

He'd walk into our team with JT on his last legs.

Koscielny was outstanding last season and the year before for that matter.

There's a lot more controversial things to point out.

He's a fantastic defender who has performed at every level there's a reason he was linked with Barca and Bayern.

This isn't the same player who flopped against Birmingham in the Carling Cup final, he has improved x1000.

Anyway Bernard on the bench record transfer a reserve

Ramsey and Wilshere pivot

Fabregas 2nd best player in Barca...Im losing interest in your threads Gil.