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Post by Vibe Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:38 pm

Dat 4-2-3-1

Handanovic
D'Ambrosio - Rano - Juan - Nagatomo
Medel - M'Vila
Guarin - Kovacic - Dodo'
Palacio

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Post by Robespierre Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:18 pm

reverse jinx worked :coffee:
very important victory
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Post by zizzle Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:44 am

Its hard to imagine that after such a shitty half of the season we're still withen 6 points from the 3rd place.
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Post by eltractor Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:07 am

the coming 3 matches are crucial: Lazio, Juve, Genoa. we should win two of them to stay in the race
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Post by Robespierre Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:40 am

The refereeing was shameful . The referee permitted to Chievo players to kill Kovacic. I can't realize why Cesar didn't get a red card for it

Anyway ... Gazzetta dello Sport votes

Handanovic 7.5
D'Ambrosio 6.5
Ranocchia 7
Juan Jesus 6.5
Nagatomo 6.5
Medel 6.5
Kovacic 7.5
Guarin 4.5
Kuzmanovic 6.5
IIcardi 5.5
Palacio 5.5
Dodò 6
M'Vila 6

some thing to say

- Kuzmanovic must be always starter. He is not the useless player of last year, he is not a great player, but he is decent and legit this year . There is nothing bad to say it . For other Inter he never would be a starter , but this is anohter story

- D'Ambrosio must be our starter too . He was playing well before of injury. He can defend better than all our fullbacks. He is not inferior to Darmian or other fullbacks who play in Nazionale. Besides there is not doubt he must be preferred to players as Dodo in a system 4 defence

- I am tired about Guarin . Yes he is capable of assist as in Udinese match but he is incredibly inconsistent and when he plays badly, he is pure shit . We had to sign Bonaventura in August, as I said..
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Post by Vibe Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:27 am

Ranocchia getting a good rating for scoring,irrelevant that his defending is still shambles Laughing

Honestly he hasn't made the smallest stride of progress since he arrived.The same mistakes are still there,mentally he's still as fragile as before.Time to move on,absolutely wrong choice captain.

Maybe Mancini can sort him out,but I doubt it.

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Post by Robespierre Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:30 am

Vibe wrote:Ranocchia getting a good rating for scoring,irrelevant that his defending is still shambles Laughing

Honestly he hasn't made the smallest stride of progress since he arrived.The same mistakes are still there,mentally he's still as fragile as before.Time to move on,absolutely wrong choice captain.

Maybe Mancini can sort him out,but I doubt it.



Same thing for Juan Jesus. And for me Ranocchia can even defend better than him.
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Post by Vibe Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:12 pm

I have the opposite impression.

Jesus is far more stable than Ranocchia....Although he's much reliant on his partner,I think he improved greatly in terms of positioning and reading the game.He's more often than not left alone by the rest of our defenders,and general defensive positioning of the team as a unit had been disgraceful which has been leaving our CB's exposed,and while Jesus can deal with it but Ranocchia looks just lost.

Jesus needs a good partner as a reference point and if the other CB performs Jesus can always match his performance.That's why I insist on a Vidi - Jesus partnership,because someone who positions himself as well as Vidic can have a very positive influence on Jesus.

Juan just turned 23 as well,which in CB years is just the beginning of a career.I don't know why though,but his style change quite a bit in recent years.He used to be far more aggressive,more agile,willing to attack his player.Now he's much more composed,gained some weight and muscle,holds position more.

Not sure what suited him better and if the change is good.
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Post by Robespierre Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:28 am

Our problems would have been resolved if we got back Rolando who played a great season . Awful error by Ausilio.

anyway about those 2, imo  so far Ranocchia has made less mistkes than Juan Jesus  Not all  observe mistakes made by Juan Jesus , but for example that 2-2 against Hellas is caused by his idiot defensive interpretation .
For me he must improve much .

but anyway Vidic should be starter for me . Ruined from Mazzarri with his defence 3 system . Some rumours report he can go away , but I hope he stays. We need also of him.


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Post by Robespierre Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:29 am

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... but don't ask me to translate everything in English language Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:07 pm

Well....

1-0 down in 2 minutes
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Post by Vibe Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:11 pm

Just tuned in,so we're playing 4-4-2 with Guarin and Dodo on the wings :facepalm:

And here I was thinking we're finally done with just putting players in odd places and formations just so we play some system rather than actually giving them a consistent role.

Oh well...
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Post by Vibe Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:39 pm

I have no words.

Ranocchia and Jesus :facepalm: I haven't even seen the first goal but I feel it has something to do with them.Ranocchia nowhere to be seen on the second,Jesus defending like it was Heskey approaching him.

As for the system....What's the one thing 4-4-2 absolutely requires?Wingers.What's the one thing we have none of?Wingers.But let's play 4-4-2 because screw logic.What a mistake.

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Post by RealGunner Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:16 pm

Kovacic what a goal. Still time for a comeback
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Post by Vibe Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:43 pm

Different team went out there for the second half.A diamond midfield is clearly what suits us the most,4-4-2 cost us this game.Mistake by Mancini.

Anyway,the momentum we gained for almost the whole 45 minutes was amazing.Haven't seen them play with that much passions since...Whatever he told them in the dressing room worked.

Under Mazzarri comebacks never happened.That's a clear change in mentality as well.
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Post by Vibe Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:52 pm

Also amazingly with half a season gone,we find ourselves just 6 points off CL places Shocked

Now is the time to jump on the market,but I'm afraid Ausilio/Thohir won't make "rash" signings in January,but rather rebuild in the summer break.

This is a train we should jump on IMO,an investment now could pay off massively if we can manage 3rd or who knows,maybe even win EL and qualify for CL.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:01 pm

Considering the first half 0-2, the tie is a good result...
CL is gone away , we must try to get EL place and finishing well the season
Finally Palacio scored , this can be important
Bonazzoli assist Proud This looks like a chosen one.
Kovacic is GOAT.

Negative things : the defence. As always . As always.
and Dodo' is awful imo.
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Post by BusterLfc Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:08 pm

Robes I'm interested in a few Inter players but can't catch up with Inter games so I want to hear your opinion about them: Icardi, Mvila, Medel, Dodo, Juan and Nagatomo. Also how is my main man Kuzma doing with y'all? And why is Vidic benched? And why did you loan out Alvarez and Taider? I thought they were doing quite good last season. Your midfield got too crowded so you needed to ship some players off?

PS. You can catch up with CL spots, there's only a 6 point gap between you and the 3rd placed team.
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Post by Robespierre Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:22 pm

Icardi is a  very promising youth players, but he is inconsistent as most  young players . I mean , he is capable to be cynical in those few chances had in a match and being useless in another match as yesterday . This also because he must improve so much about teammwork . He tends to be a static CF and this is not good in modern football . Anyway he has already scored 8 goals and his average goals is good . Anyway he must improve expecially in teammwork as I said

M'Vila is nothing special so far . Basically he is player worthy of an average rating 5.5  ...
Kuzmanovic, for example, is much more useful than him this year.
I criticized much Kuzmanovic last year but this year he is a different player, he is  legit. Of course he isn't worthy of 1/4 than Stankovic Proud ( he was my favourite player)  but so far he is deserving  to be starter. More than M'Vila surely. Basically Kuzmanovic does what he must do , an ordered player and he is sometimes also  close to score (he hasn't a good shot and he is good for insertions , infact he scored in EL recently) .He would never be a starter in a real Inter, but he deserves to be in this Inter

Nagatomo is declined much in last 2 years.
He began   well with Inter under Leonardo (signed in January 2011), but he worsened during years, he can't defend, he couldn't defend even in his first period but at least he was good in offensive phase ... now he is just bad. He is just good   to run. I would sell him .

Similar thing for Dodò . I don't like him . He was a preseason legend but he has same defects than Nagatomo.
Our best fullback is D' Ambrosio , the fullback costed less than all , he is solid defensively and he is legit when he attacks, an assist yesterday for Palacio..

Medel began very well , then he is dropped as the whole team.
Yesterday his ingress was useful to give balance. My impression is he is legit, but he had to be paid less than 9 because he is "single - phase " player , just defending, I mean he is good to tackle but he is not good to play the ball

Vidic is on bench because apparently Mancini prefers the parntership Ranocchia- Juan Jesus
Basically bnecause Ranocchia was elected our captain and so he can't be benched ...
while Juan Jesus is speed and so he is the only complementary with 2 ..
I think Vidic is still our best defender and he suffered that scrub system 3 defence under Mazzarri and infact I want him as starter. Besides the partnership Ranocchia - JJ played badly these matches, it is not reliable ffs .Some rumours say Mancini doesn't like Vidic also for some frictions during Manchester period but I don't believe it

Juan is inconsistent too , he must improve to mark and some his limits are visble when he plays with system 4 defence ( while he hides them with 3-5-2) he often remedies to his mistakes for his speed and phyiscal but I waited more progress by him tbh... I saw progresses by Kovacic, he is a different player than his arrival in Italy but I can't say same thing for Juan Jesus. He does still same mistakes than 2012 . Yes, he is still young and he has the time to improve but it 's the moment to show some real progress.


Alvarez played well just the first half of season . Then his performance collapsed since January in then , probably he suffered also the Hernanes' signing.
I think he is just a legit reserve,not more,  but anyway he was sold because Sunderland is obliged to buy him for 11 mln if they got saved ... and we couldn't refuse similar offer

Taider was  meh last year tbh , he is good for Sassuolo but maybe this is his dimension
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Post by BusterLfc Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:29 am

Thanks a lot for this great post, I got all the answers I needed. Thumbs up
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Post by Lord Awesome Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:05 am

Nagatomo needs to play on the right but even then he wouldn't be much use going Forward as he's not the most technical. Not much of a crosser, certainly.

The problems are obviously at the back. A lack of marking and slowness from JJ & Ranocchia is venerable whenever a highline occurs. We saw how Felipe Anderson dismantled that backline. The back is still pretty messy so far. Makes me think Mancini will go for a defender this winter.
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Post by McAgger Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:21 pm

Is Kova playing against PSG tonight?

I'd like to watch it if he is.
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Post by Robespierre Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:48 pm

yes he will play .. match is going to begin in 15 minutes

I don't watch it though .

A relevant news : Even Andreolli is over Vidic for Mancini . Andreolli will play and not Vidic. At this point it's clear theere is not tuning among Mancini and Vidic ... had they ever discussed during Premier League period ?
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Post by RealGunner Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:00 pm

Great point
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Post by Robespierre Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:56 pm

Surely satisfied .
Not for the point tbh, we could also win with that chance missed by Icardi .... but for the performance.
It could never happen under Mazzarri.

Heart, pride , reaction , balls . All thing forgotten under Mazzarri .
It seems to watch again a football team . .

Avanti cosi'.
We must continue on this road.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:27 am

So how is the new Inter going to look with Podolski and Shaqiri?

Let's assume Mancini is going with 4-3-3

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