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Post by McAgger Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:25 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Higuain takes the PKs for Napoli... and he never, ever took them with NT or Madrid.

That's not true.

Higuain and Raul were the two main pen takers for Madrid in 2008/09 as Ruud was injured almost the whole season. I remember vividly Pipa scoring 2 pens in a game where he scored a poker.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:27 pm

You can critisize Özil for his performance afterwards, but it's nonsense to critizise a player for a missed penalty.
Missed penalties have to be suffered through together, they can always happen.
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Post by Raptorgunner Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:34 pm

I just dont know why Ozil puts no heart in to his penalties? is he that confidant that he is going to score?

He has been playing long enouph to know missing a penalty is not the end of the world and pick himself up.
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Post by anh165 Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:35 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:You can critisize Özil for his performance afterwards, but it's nonsense to critizise a player for a missed penalty.
Missed penalties have to be suffered through together, they can always happen.

It's an English thing.

We get knee-jerky and love a scape goat.

Funny thing is the criticisms are coming from Man Utd and Liverpool supporters lol


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Post by anh165 Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:36 pm

Adit wrote:
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The ball was aimed near center, similar to how Messi took his against Man City.

Nothing wrong with Ozil's shot, it's just Bayern keeper did a great save, he committed his body to dive to his left side and managed to controlled his arm to save the ball that was heading towards the middle.

It was a terrible PK.

It was terrible because it was on-target and was SAVED?

OK

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Post by McAgger Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:37 pm

anh165 wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:You can critisize Özil for his performance afterwards, but it's nonsense to critizise a player for a missed penalty.
Missed penalties have to be suffered through together, they can always happen.

It's an English thing.

We get knee-jerky and love a scape goat.

Funny thing is the criticisms are coming from Man Utd and Liverpool supporters lol


Adit is not a Liverpool fan
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Post by anh165 Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:38 pm

McAgger wrote:
anh165 wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:You can critisize Özil for his performance afterwards, but it's nonsense to critizise a player for a missed penalty.
Missed penalties have to be suffered through together, they can always happen.

It's an English thing.

We get knee-jerky and love a scape goat.

Funny thing is the criticisms are coming from Man Utd and Liverpool supporters lol


Adit is not a Liverpool fan

Oh, so but his reaction is still knee-jerk and very akin to the fickle gobby gooners I have to listen to on the picadilly line calling for Wenger's head every time we dont get a win at the Emirates?


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Post by chad4401 Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:41 pm

seriously what has the forum come too? its like everything is kneejerking and scape goating, anyone can miss a penalty, doesn't make you a terrible professional or anything, some posters need to calm down and stop the agenda driven bulls**t, big players missing pens been happening since the game was invented Laughing
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Post by anh165 Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:42 pm

chad4401 wrote:seriously what has the forum come too? its like everything is kneejerking and scape goating, anyone can miss a penalty, doesn't make you a terrible professional or anything, some posters need to calm down and the agenda driven bulls**t big players missing pens been happening since the game was invented Laughing


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Post by chad4401 Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:58 pm

@anh165 you agreeing with me?
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Post by anh165 Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:03 pm

chad4401 wrote:@anh165 you agreeing with me?

I condensed your post into one word, so yes I did.


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Post by Gil Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:06 pm

Hazard takes penalties the same way. Don't get the outrage over his technique.
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:07 pm

Alot was wrong with it, from the fact that he was taking it, to the way he approached it, to the effect it had on him for the rest of the game.

My boy Zealous used to tell me Ozil didn't change games, but went with the flow. I disagreed, I had seen him dominate Barca twice, once while we were playing with 10 men, but what I've seen during the last month and a half or so seems to support his claims.

I like Ozil, have no real doubts about what he's capable of talent wise, but his mentality I've began to question. Anyway, Wilshere should start taking penalties in my opinion. Whether Giroud is on the pitch or not.
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Post by chad4401 Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:21 pm

no ozil should continue to take pens unless he refuses too, if wenger wants him to take on more responsibilities then there will be growing pains, ozil will get used to it sooner or later and it will make him a better player, people need to relax and stop judging players from game to game.

@anh165 cool Thumbs up 
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Post by Toffer Harley Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:54 pm

gotta love people advising mesut freakin özil how to shoot penalties, especially since he has scored more than enough with exactly this technique.
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Post by Le Samourai Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:00 pm

It amazes that he takes them for Germany, that's just straight up disrespecting Tomas. I hope and pray every day Germany starts Ozil, Gotze and Kroos this summer, and Tomas falls out the rotation.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:11 pm

it has become so bad that even i have to come to defense ffs. It's just a penalty, everyone can miss it. I understand that his general demeanor taking the pk was awful, but that's also the matter of a player being subject to doubts, a bad moment.

Beyond that, i think a lot of people here are upset that Ozil doesnt match the expectation that they had of him. People spent so much time calling him the best n10 in the world, saying he was the best assister and he had the best vision, that they started believing their own hype and his youtube videos. As classy as he looks and he plays, he is not Iniesta. It's been discussed at length here what type of players he needs around him to be successful, so i aint gonna repeat that.

But seriously, this wouldnt be such an issue if people didnt expect him to bend football by himself.
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Post by eelir Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:28 pm

So what is see here is Arsenal fans having their club finally spend some real cash and hopping it will solve everything. Take it easy guys! Take a look at Chelsea, City and RM et al. They all splashed cash left and right and it still took time to make things work more or less.
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Post by chad4401 Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:02 am

eelir you got neymar and ibra for free? scratch 
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Post by eelir Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:24 am

chad4401 wrote:eelir you got neymar and ibra for free? scratch 

Easy boy, that is why i wrote "et al". Also it is a well know fact RM are big spenders. And btw, our success was not down to Ibra and Ney, so this does not apply to Barca as it applies to the three i mentioned first..
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Post by chad4401 Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:57 am

calma just cheeking if barca ain't big spenders too
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Post by 3lite Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:51 pm

It was an horrible free kick. Be crazy of he doesn't take anymore PK's in NT too lol

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Post by la bestia negra Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:23 pm

mesut is a good PK taker im sure of it

how ever i don't think its a good idea taking it against some one you have known since your childhood day's
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Post by Highburied Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:25 pm

@BlacB: United fans love to diss Ozil, meanwhile they spent £30m on Fellaini who has 0 goals, 0 assist, 10 yards miss and a good hair. #Arsenal
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Post by Lex Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:00 pm

^ that's really ignorant, quite frankly








His hair is abit naff
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Post by 3lite Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:04 am

World class again after the FA match, no?

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