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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:59 am

So bad that only Schweignsteiger was better on your entire midfield lol.

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Post by Kaladin Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:00 am

I have to agree and give Fuss some likes here, his WC14 wasn't anything special
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Post by futbol Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:04 am

Kicker is the biggest German football magazine. Here are all their World Cup ratings:

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/wm/spiele/weltmeisterschaft/2014/topspieler-der-saison.html

Click on "Deutschland" on the right. Özil is ranked 14th out of 17 players who played for Germany. Laughing

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:34 am

M99 wrote:Best German player in 2010 World Cup.

WON the 2014 World Cup.

No missed penalties or sitters in major finals.

Team of the tournament on Euro 12.

Top scorer for Germany in 2014 World Cup qualifiers.

Higuain dreams of an international record like this tbh.

If we start to include qualifiers Higuain's record isn't half bad

And like fussball said while he may have won the WC he has the dubious honor of being the worst starter for them throughout the tournament, often putting in invisible performances. Let's not rewrite history here. To claim that Ozil had a quiet world cup is an uncontroversial statement.
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Post by M99 Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:23 am

I agree that he was nothing special but I think it is an exaggeration to say he was one of their worst players. I don't give a shit about anyone's ratings, I watched all of Germany's matches and I remember him play okay overall. There were few games like the group stage ones where he was invisible but in the latter stages he picked up. He scored what turned put to be the winner against Algeria, looked relatively quiet compared to the Muller/Kroos/Shirley in that massacre against Brazil (still had an assist if I remember correctly) and overall over 120 minutes was the best player in the final but got overshadowed by Gotze's winner. I think overall he is second in chances created in the entire tournament behind Messi.

Ozil did not have huge choking incidents and actually won a major title unlike Higuain. And let's not ignore 2010-12 where he was best German player internationally. Best German player in 14 qualifiers too.
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Post by Sri Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:21 am

Two conveniently forgotten points:

1. His assists for the 'early half' of this season are abysmal because Arsenal weren't scoring. There was a couple of weeks when our top scorer was Own Goal with 2.

2. Despite large scale media delusion here in Germany, among Jögi Löw's default names on the team sheet was Özil. He played most of the WC as a Left Mid/Wing, away from his favoured position, for the good of the team and balance. Clearly, this was inspired by AW trying him on the left to accommodate Jack/Santi/Ramsey in the preceding season, just as Pep inspired Lahm as DM (which incidentally always was ended up disastrously).

I would not take media reports as credible. Till Germany beat Brazil, the media was pretty much bashing the Mannschaft on a daily basis - take it from someone immersed in the environment here and supporting the team for close to a decade now. Obviously, they weren't going to let every opportunity go when the smallest of things didn't click - a lot of it was down to the expectations of the population, with populist media doing well to fan the slightest flames of discontent.

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Post by Sri Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:14 am

OptaJoe ✔ @OptaJoe
2.71 - Mesut Özil has the best games/assist rate in @PremierLeague history - average one every 2.71 matches. (min. 20 assists) Provider.

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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:23 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:What M99 said, if anything Mahrez has been the one who has dropped off. Still good but not POTY level.


just got an assist this weekend

rested last week because he played two international matches with us in africa

and hes "dropped off" dear lord Laughing
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Post by RealGunner Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:17 pm

Mesut Ozil is currently the finest creative footballer in Europe...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3306681/Mesut-Ozil-currently-finest-creative-footballer-Europe-former-Real-Madrid-star-Premier-League-playmaker-Arsenal-paid-42-5m-for.html


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Post by Unique Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:56 pm

ozil gets left out of the german team because England don't have a winter break. then the manager picks emre can. :facepalm:
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Post by RealGunner Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:58 pm

That's because Ozil has over 70 German caps and doesn't need to play anymore to adjust/adapt to Germany's style. He can walk in anytime and will know what to do

Can only has like 1-2 caps and Low needs to see a lot more of him. Same reason why he picked so many inexperienced players for the recent call ups
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:59 pm

Can has to show up for the national Team, its not like he has a secure spot in the squad. Would be funny if Löw let him rest after he just played his first 2 matches for the NT.
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Post by Unique Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:00 pm

so nothing to do with a winter break then lads. eco smile
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Post by RealGunner Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:01 pm

Why would Winter break affect anything in early november? Laughing

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Post by Unique Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:04 pm

RealGunner wrote:Why would Winter break affect anything in early november? Laughing

nothing. but its what I read. cheers
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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:13 pm

Unbelievable player. Best playmaker in the world

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:36 pm

Heard Özil was very poor this game
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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:38 pm

which hater you got on your whatsapp ffs

made all 3 goals for us
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Post by urbaNRoots Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:36 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Heard Özil was very poor this game


Who told you this, Neil Ashton?
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Post by MJ Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:38 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Heard Özil was very poor this game


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Post by futbol Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:40 pm

I watched the game on Whoscored and he was pretty bad IMO.

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Post by zigra Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:33 am

Agreed. Worst Arsenal starter and it's not even close (6.8 and the next is 7.3 and he has 0 successful dribbles).
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Post by Kaladin Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:53 am

Dunno why i still have Sky/BT on direct debit, gonna save 65 pounds every month now and start livestreaming spreadsheets
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Post by Sri Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:21 am

ES wrote:Dunno why i still have Sky/BT on direct debit, gonna save 65 pounds every month now and start livestreaming spreadsheets


Proud

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:09 pm

IMO the jury's still out on him tbh
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Post by RealGunner Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:30 pm

Moyseh ffs

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