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Post by Juveman17 Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:28 am

Litchsteiner and Asamoah/Evra just arent going to cut it in terms of wingers. We need more offensively minded wingers for this to work in Europe.

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Post by RealGunner Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:39 am

Moyá, Juanfran, Miranda, Godín, Siqueira, Mario Suárez, Koke, Saúl Ñíguez, Arda Turan, Griezmann, Mandzukic
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:56 am

Llorente finally benched apparently

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Post by RealGunner Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:57 am

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:59 am

We'd be so much better off with


Buffon
Licht Bonuc Chiell Asa
Vidal March Pogba
Pereyra Tevez
Morata
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Post by Zealous Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:00 am

Morata Proud
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:01 am

Because if 3 European seasons of the 352 have not worked, try again Proud


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Post by Doc Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:02 am

Practice makes perfect. Steady as we go boys Proud
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Post by Zealous Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:05 am

The issue is not 3-5-2 at the end of the day it's players that have to preform.

However when you play 3-5-2 you are saying that your wingbacks are two of your best players. I'm not sure that's the case for Juve.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:07 am

Licht is a fantastic player, and Asamoah is always improving. However they sure as hell aren't and never will be fantastic ATTACKERS, which is what we need in this 3-5-2 with the likes of Licht always being played in behind, and constantly recieving the ball in the final 3rd.

It's stupid quite frankly, a pair of decent wingers would change us so much

Decent, not even great
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Post by Robespierre Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:58 am

καλὸι καὶ ἀγαθόι .
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Post by Robespierre Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:59 am

http://www.goal.com/it/news/173/champions-league/2014/10/21/5318201/roberto-sa-come-finir%C3%A0-olimpiakos-juventus-1-0-segna-kasami

Roberto predicted it Laughing
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Post by Dante Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:15 am

Robs Proud . I was just about to say this .

A magnifiscent performance by Roberto tonight. Denied Juventus everything. Absolute 10/10 . And of course , as if his performance tonight wasn't enough , he predicted both the result and the scorer too .

Roberto ffs  :bow:

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Post by Zealous Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:34 am

Michel u goat :bow:

Atleti will walk this group lol
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Post by izzy Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:36 am

Juventus should be ashamed of themselves....

Absolutely ashamed.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:05 am

they are an embarrassment, good lord. get a grip offs
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Post by Dante Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:29 am

Zealous wrote:Michel u goat :bow:

Atleti will walk this group lol


Seriously , Michel is such a great coach. Maybe people can't be arsed because he's coaching Olympiacos these days and not some club of bigger exposure that would grant him recognition , but i am convinced once he does leave Olympiacos , it will be for a big job in football . Not only did he inherit a winning team from Valverde , he actually improved them and made them even better . Michel is legit , w8 for GL to catch up in a couple of years when he's coaching a more famous club in Spain Proud .

Atletico will most certainly walk the group , but their defeat to Olympiacos wasn't a fluke either . I still remember Michel saying before the game that he was confident and knew more or less how the game would go , even Simeone said before their defeat it would be their toughest match in the whole group (u mad Juventus?). Basically , Michel needs 4 more points . And the last game is at home with Malme .. Olympiacos is only a draw away from the 16 right now , Malme aren't taking points off Olympiacos in Athens..

If Juventus wants to get that ticket for the 16 , they will have to win against Olympiacos in Torino at all costs and hope Atletico and Malme get points off them on the road , whilst they will have to win pretty much all of their remaining matches . Otherwise i believe Juventus will be missing on the 16 for a 2nd time in a row Laughing
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Post by futbol Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:29 am

2 comments.

First: Serie zZZZZzz.

Second: You can't expect to do great in Europe with Mehdrid youth like Mehrata.

The 2 most important points IMO.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:32 am

Hope we lose some more, finally we'll ditch 3-5-2 then and maybe even get a coach that isn't a pussy
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:47 pm

roma lost and juve lost... really sad... was rooting for both.

but atleast both has got still games to rectify themselves.

on positive note, morata looks great! if not for goalkeeper he would have scored 2 goals. its time juve drop llorente and make him regular alongside tevez and get him more regular games so he will have better understanding with rest of the first 11.

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Post by RealGunner Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:38 am

Atléti XI vs. #MalmöFF: Moyà; Juanfran, Godín, Miranda, Siqueira; Mario Suárez, Gabi; Koke, Raúl García, Arda Turan; Mandzukic.

Juventus starting XI: Buffon, Lichtsteiner, Bonucci, Chiellini, Asamoah, Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Morata, Tevez.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:57 am

Amazing match.

It's clear Allegri's change into the 4-3-1-2 (i.e a 4 man back line) made Juventus more adventurous, courageous and fluid in attack; straining away from the static 3-5-2 yet its clear why both CatHead and Sexxxlegri chose to stay with the latter formation for so long as defensively it is obvious how much of a difference it makes considering how bad Lichtsteiner and ASSamoah were as fullbacks tonight. These two are better set up the field afforded more options than holding a disciplined line as it is why Juventus were compromised defensively tonight.

On the other hand Pirlo scored a gorgeous free kick and racked an assist for Llorente's goal while Marchisio had a n excellent performance in midfield, shortly to be subbed off eventually due to fatigue.

Llorente coming on for an ineffectual Morata when Juventus needed answers when being 2-1 was genius by Allegri. Max decided to switch to a 4-5-1, finally making use of Llorente and the impact was clear not only by his goal, but the chances he created and all the touches he acquired to bring Juventus into play. THIS was the Llorente the ones who know his play will see if his confidence can return. Tevez was ineffectual as usual within Europe wasting a chance from a Llorente cross than a through ball subsequently wasted. Vidal irresponsibly wasted the penalty kick which would have made a difference in Juve's goal difference with Olympiakos. How Llorente does not take penalties is beyond me considering his 100% record from the spot.

In the end Allegri must be praised for his tactical changes that resulted in the comeback as it brings further questions in if he will scrap the 4 man back to the 3-5-2 which defensively without a doubt has them looked more assured.
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Post by farfan Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:00 am

did he use  that 2010-2012 milan formation ? hmm

Pogba is more of a " trequartista " than boateng ever was .
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Post by Doc Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:06 am

Ah, Juventus won. Good for them...
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:06 am

farfan wrote:did he use  that 2010-2012 milan formation ? hmm

Pogba is more of a " trequartista " than boateng ever was .


Well yes as this was a diamond with Pogba leading the crux of the diamond itself.

Boateng was used not for his creative purposes but similar to Ji-Sung-Park under SAF for pressing and harrying the opposite deeper midfielder/midfield. While pragmatic it was a choice that worked.

Pogba on the other hand is obviously more complete and has physical qualities that resemble Allegri's previous purpose. As displayed by his performance tonight, it should be looked upon to continue this role for him.
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Post by Robespierre Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:36 am

Malmoe won against Olimpiakos in Sweden and today deserved to tie against Atletico at home too. It souldn't be an easy match for Juve on paper
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