Re: The Official Balon d'Or 2014 Thread

[Curtinho]

Although the ratings listed there are a bit wrong. Bale is ahead of Neymar with a 7.81 rating to Neymar's 7.79. Clearly they messed up having Bacca there somehow lol

[terrance511]

nolito 3.7 interceptions pg

wow

[halamadrid2]

Kroos higher pass accuracy than Xavi

In before hateful hans "but but he only passes sideways and backwards"

[RealGunner]

He only passes sideways and backwards

Surprised barca didn't replace Xavi with him

[Freeza]

He only passes sideways and backwards

Surprised barca didn't replace Xavi with him

Because his career moves actually are progressive like his passes

[terrance511]

ronaldo not in xavi top 3

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1785/fifa-ballon-dor/2014/12/23/7350412/xavi-rubbishes-ronaldos-ballon-dor-bid-he-didnt-do-much-at


is there any chance harmonica is xavi in real life?

[Casciavit]

Xavi:

"He didn't do much in the World Cup, and in a World Cup year, the season is defined by that," the former Spain international said of Ronaldo in an interview with Sport.

"[In first place I would have] Leo, second Philipp Lahm, and third Javier Mascherano."

[FennecFox7]

What an idiot. Messi was average after the group stages. And if you want to go by wc performances james wiped all three of them to the ground.

[farfan]

i hope xavi becomes a coach after he retires .

the amount of butthurt and excuses after every loss would be hilarious .

[Curtinho]

Xavi

[Valkyrja]

Coach Xavi : We had more possession

[Donuts]

did he say something wrong?
did ronaldo not infact have a horrible world cup? or are you guys arguing that he did.

[Cruijf]

Brings up the WC and excludes Neuer, James, and Muller

[DuringTheWar]

did he say something wrong? .

It depends, does messi deserve to win based on his WC performances? Or was the bit about ronaldo the only aspect of his comment that registered with you?

[FennecFox7]

Ronaldo played the WC with a screwed up pataller tendon and hamstring tendonitis, yet scored one and assisted one in three games with probably one of the WORST teams in the WC. His world cup was average but portugal are absolute trash. And he still played the WC injured.

Messi scored against the worst team in the tournament, iran. Granted nigeria are a good team, but messi didn't do anything in the knockout stages. His overall play was shocking, despite having a team with higuain, palacio, aguero, and di maria built around him, he turned over the ball countless times. The defense got them to the final. Mascherano is a worthy candidate but we know that people don't rate defenders

[Donuts]

i dont see how this has to do with messi
xavi said ronaldo had a bad world cup, it'd be hard to disagree wouldn't it?

portugal are hardly the worst team individually they are actually more of the top 10 just players didn't show up, one of those players being ronaldo.
if you look at players in teams
honduras, costa rica, korea, switzerland, bosnia, ecuador, greece, russia, iran
all have almost unknowns in their team..

and thats me excluding some African teams because i honestly don't have too much knowledge on their players... but i doubt Algeria/Nigeria is much better players than Portugal
also all of ronaldo's coaches said he was fit the only one who disagreed was some random friend who talked to the papers which tbh i wouldn't blame him after watching his buddy play that crappy.

[izzy]

Ronaldo played the WC with a screwed up pataller tendon and hamstring tendonitis, yet scored one and assisted one in three games with probably one of the WORST teams in the WC. His world cup was average but portugal are absolute trash. And he still played the WC injured.

Messi scored against the worst team in the tournament, iran. Granted nigeria are a good team, but messi didn't do anything in the knockout stages. His overall play was shocking, despite having a team with higuain, palacio, aguero, and di maria built around him, he turned over the ball countless times. The defense got them to the final. Mascherano is a worthy candidate but we know that people don't rate defenders

Pls, Giggity, you flatter us too much.

[McAgger]

I wonder what Xavi said after Messi won the 2010 Balon D'Or in a world cup year.

[Doc]

Xavi plays for Barcelona and would hardly ever gives RM any credit so don't expect the same for a player currently at RM. Donuts has long been a poster who has hardly had anything positive to say Ronaldo or RM so again, don't expect any objective analysis on either subject.

With that being said, Cristiano did have a poor WC. So did Messi in 2010. Whatever reasoning you had for Messi deserved to win in 2010, insert Ronaldo's name instead.

[Donuts]

your mistake is that you think i'm pushing for messi to winning the award.
i already said ronaldo had a better year and will 99% win it, based on the champions league and recent goal form.

what i am debating is whether or not ronaldo had a good or bad world cup.. because that is what xavi was talking about and someone brought that up.
i thought it was pretty obvious to everyone he had a bad one but some disagree.

[Wor Ayoze]

Ronaldo played the WC with a screwed up pataller tendon and hamstring tendonitis, yet scored one and assisted one in three games with probably one of the WORST teams in the WC. His world cup was average but portugal are absolute trash. And he still played the WC injured.

Messi scored against the worst team in the tournament, iran. Granted nigeria are a good team, but messi didn't do anything in the knockout stages. His overall play was shocking, despite having a team with higuain, palacio, aguero, and di maria built around him, he turned over the ball countless times. The defense got them to the final. Mascherano is a worthy candidate but we know that people don't rate defenders

Portugal would have got through if Ronaldo didn't mess up loads and loads of chances in the last game.

Higuain, Aguero, Di Maria and Palacio were all completely terrible in the world cup and Messi had to do things by himself going forward apart from the first half of the final when Lavezzi helped before bizarrely getting replaced.

Robben should win it anyway

[Winter is Coming]

Messi scored against the worst team in the tournament, iran. Granted nigeria are a good team, but messi didn't do anything in the knockout stages. His overall play was shocking, despite having a team with higuain, palacio, aguero, and di maria built around him, he turned over the ball countless times. The defense got them to the final. Mascherano is a worthy candidate but we know that people don't rate defenders

Regardless of how bad those teams were his goal against Bosnia, his goal against Iran and his two goals against Nigeria got Argentina the 9 points, take those away they only get two points in those three games. He assisted the winner in Switzerland game for Di Maria and played apart in providing the winner in Belgium game, so he played a part in 6 of 8 Argentina goals.

Aguero was injured in the second game or third game, Higuain we all know is a scrub as is Levezzi, Di Maria and Masche are the only reliable Argentina players, Di Maria was injured. Argentina parked the bus the whole way through the KO phases having only 2-3 attackers out at most of course his over all play wouldn't be good when your trying to defend for your life. You miss the point that Messi created the most scoring chances at the WC with all that attacking talent I wonder why they couldn't finish it, maybe we should blame Messi for their finishing as well.

And in no way am I saying Messi deserves the ballon D'or not even top 3 in my opinion, but this thing of down playing his WC performance his getting ridiculous. I can't believe I'm saying this, but even Mourinho said it during one of his interviews after the WC.

“He sacrificed himself for the good of the team.

“He was more focused on winning the tournament than being its best player.”

“I saw him playing in areas of the pitch where he doesn’t usually play. He dropped deep and picked up the ball a long way from the opposition’s goal.

“Messi has my utmost respect for what he did at the World Cup.

[Valkyrja]

also all of ronaldo's coaches said he was fit the only one who disagreed was some random friend who talked to the papers which tbh i wouldn't blame him after watching his buddy play that crappy.

Do you really think Ronaldo was fit during the WC ? I don't say that he had a good world cup, but there is now way he was fit. I saw Ronaldo having bad games, but I've never seen him incapable of running.

[FennecFox7]

Ronaldo played the WC with a screwed up pataller tendon and hamstring tendonitis, yet scored one and assisted one in three games with probably one of the WORST teams in the WC. His world cup was average but portugal are absolute trash. And he still played the WC injured.

Messi scored against the worst team in the tournament, iran. Granted nigeria are a good team, but messi didn't do anything in the knockout stages. His overall play was shocking, despite having a team with higuain, palacio, aguero, and di maria built around him, he turned over the ball countless times. The defense got them to the final. Mascherano is a worthy candidate but we know that people don't rate defenders

Pls, Giggity, you flatter us too much.

still one of the better african teams. unlike cameroon who got raped every game

[FennecFox7]

Ronaldo played the WC with a screwed up pataller tendon and hamstring tendonitis, yet scored one and assisted one in three games with probably one of the WORST teams in the WC. His world cup was average but portugal are absolute trash. And he still played the WC injured.

Messi scored against the worst team in the tournament, iran. Granted nigeria are a good team, but messi didn't do anything in the knockout stages. His overall play was shocking, despite having a team with higuain, palacio, aguero, and di maria built around him, he turned over the ball countless times. The defense got them to the final. Mascherano is a worthy candidate but we know that people don't rate defenders

Portugal would have got through if Ronaldo didn't mess up loads and loads of chances in the last game.

Higuain, Aguero, Di Maria and Palacio were all completely terrible in the world cup and Messi had to do things by himself going forward apart from the first half of the final when Lavezzi helped before bizarrely getting replaced.

Robben should win it anyway

Loads of chances the usa midfield dominated portugals. Let me repeat that.

The USA's midfield dominated portugals

Tendonitis doesn't just disappear.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/cristiano-ronaldo/10911138/Cristiano-Ronaldos-World-Cup-could-be-over-after-knee-injury-flares-up-ahead-of-Portugals-clash-against-USA.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2648203/Cristiano-Ronaldo-nursing-two-injuries-ahead-World-Cup-Portugal-star-remains-doubt.html

Take a sports medicine class and talk to me donuts

[FennecFox7]

Messi scored against the worst team in the tournament, iran. Granted nigeria are a good team, but messi didn't do anything in the knockout stages. His overall play was shocking, despite having a team with higuain, palacio, aguero, and di maria built around him, he turned over the ball countless times. The defense got them to the final. Mascherano is a worthy candidate but we know that people don't rate defenders

Regardless of how bad those teams were his goal against Bosnia, his goal against Iran and his two goals against Nigeria got Argentina the 9 points, take those away they only get two points in those three games. He assisted the winner in Switzerland game for Di Maria and played apart in providing the winner in Belgium game, so he played a part in 6 of 8 Argentina goals.

Aguero was injured in the second game or third game, Higuain we all know is a scrub as is Levezzi, Di Maria and Masche are the only reliable Argentina players, Di Maria was injured. Argentina parked the bus the whole way through the KO phases having only 2-3 attackers out at most of course his over all play wouldn't be good when your trying to defend for your life. You miss the point that Messi created the most scoring chances at the WC with all that attacking talent I wonder why they couldn't finish it, maybe we should blame Messi for their finishing as well.

And in no way am I saying Messi deserves the ballon D'or not even top 3 in my opinion, but this thing of down playing his WC performance his getting ridiculous. I can't believe I'm saying this, but even Mourinho said it during one of his interviews after the WC.

“He sacrificed himself for the good of the team.

“He was more focused on winning the tournament than being its best player.”

“I saw him playing in areas of the pitch where he doesn’t usually play. He dropped deep and picked up the ball a long way from the opposition’s goal.

“Messi has my utmost respect for what he did at the World Cup.

Portugal have players like postiga, no-end product nani, eder don't get me started on the midfield. CR has to carry those sunday league scrubs by himself.

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