Re: Van Gaal is a clown

by Kick Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:06 am

You're right. Utd dominated, those numerous passes between Mcnair and Smalling had me worried Laughing

Utd had no answer to our tactics yet LVG called it your best game this season Laughing

by Kick Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:07 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Kick wrote:I disagree Utd were suppose to win the game.

Take away the early Rooney chance and we had the best chances of the game.

Also, if we were playing Costa or Remy, they would have scored the 1 v 1 that Drogba was too slow for. Then we would have cruised home.

Utd were not good enough to beat us, our gameplan was to defend, and defend we did. It's not like we were lucky to not concede.

Didn't watch the game, just going off what everyone has been saying.

Everyone thinks that because no one likes the tactics we used. Not because they were actually better.

by mr-r34 Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:13 am

Kick did you not get the memo? Football is only allowed to be played a certain way.

by Kick Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:18 am

mr-r34 wrote:Kick did you not get the memo? Football is only allowed to be played a certain way.

I actually read an interesting article posted on a Chelsea blog on this.

Football is, after all, the only sport that so thoroughly chastises those who excel at defending. For those who need reminding, defending is half the game. Imagine a boxer being criticised for not allowing his opponent to hit him. Floyd Mayweather, boxing's most technically proficient fighter, will hereby be known as "The Anti Boxer". Imagine thinking the Seattle Seahawks are an enemy of the NFL as opposed to the embodiment of it. Or that San Antonio's empire in the Tim Duncan era should be forgotten because they can defend their own half of the court.

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/4/19/8452001/jose-mourinho-chelsea-vs-manchester-united

They very much have a point (I recommend everyone read the article). We played a defensive game and get critised for it because it isn't beautiful to watch, yet defending is an important part of the game. Something we clearly (as seen by the scoreline) did better than Utd at.

by RED Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:24 am

Kick wrote:You're right. Utd dominated, those numerous passes between Mcnair and Smalling had me worried

Utd had no answer to our tactics yet LVG called it your best game this season

I don't think he meant it. A defense mechanism to mask his irritation and to give our players a morale boost in spite of defeat. We played well though.

by Rebaño Sagrado Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:06 am

Both of those are those are awful comparisons lol. Floyd is criticized for being too defensive, and american football defense can be exciting. Just accept you play boring football. Nothing to be ashamed of lol, you are good at it (in England).

by Kick Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:16 am

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:Both of those are those are awful comparisons lol. Floyd is criticized for being too defensive, and american football defense can be exciting. Just accept you play boring football. Nothing to be ashamed of lol, you are good at it (in England).

We may play boring football (I personally enjoyed the game, but can understand how it was boring to the neutrals), but that doesn't mean Utd were better, which is the problem I have with what people are saying.

So many people say that we were bad just because they didn't enjoy watching us. I admit, there have been games we've played using the defensive tactic that we didn't deserve to win but not this one. We were in control the entire way and Utd had no answers.

by futbol Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:56 am

It's 2015 and ppl still moaning about Mourinho's style of football? What's the point? Laughing

by B-Mac Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:10 am

Kick wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:He just lost a game which everyone agrees he was supposed to win, and he is supposed to be happy? The questions were not only generic but also repetitive, if the interviewer is going to put so little effort into it then why should he answer them with a smile?

I disagree Utd were suppose to win the game.

Take away the early Rooney chance and we had the best chances of the game.

Also, if we were playing Costa or Remy, they would have scored the 1 v 1 that Drogba was too slow for. Then we would have cruised home.

Utd were not good enough to beat us, our gameplan was to defend, and defend we did. It's not like we were lucky to not concede.

LOL wut

if we had Carrick we would of had 90% possession sliced you open and Rooney would of played up top and scored 6 goals and we would have cruised.

see I can make up hypothetical's too Laughing

by Kick Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:19 am

Mine is a somewhat sensible hypothetical, No way Rooney would have scored 6 Laughing

by Muppet Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:29 am

Sensible eh. If you're what passes for a moderator around here I doubt I'll bother posting here.

by Glory Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:59 pm

This deserves to be posted here now. Laughing

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2014/05/21/british-journalists-follow-these-ten-rules-for-interviewing-louis-van-gaal/?hc_location=ufi

ten rules when interviewing Louis van Gaal

1. Be prepared for any possible mood Contrary to many other managers, whether the match is won, drawn or lost is no indication whatsoever of Van Gaal’s mood. Even if he has won and seems to be quite happy, one wrong question can - and will - put him off.

2. Start neutral Begin with a question about the match just played. “How did your team do?” or “What did you think?” will suffice. “You must be very disappointed” will not. That is because the match you saw and the match he saw can be very different ones. Mr. Van Gaal is perfectly comfortable declaring that a 0-3 loss at home to Sunderland was his team’s best game all season, just because his players were doing what he told them to do. It’s not always about what ends up on the scoreboard. Don’t enter the interview thinking it is.

3. Don’t introduce yourself Or else he’ll know your name, remember it and use itagainst you. You will not be some anonymous guy with a microphone and a cameraman on his side; you will be Gary, or Clive, or Tony, with whom he will or will not have a feud from the get-go. (He will.)

4. Stay on topic If the interview is about the game, you talk about the game. Not about the next game, transfer rumours or whatever happened on the training pitch. Every question about anything else than the game just played will derail the conversation.

5. It’s his language now, not yours Mr. Van Gaal will come up with new additions to the Oxford Dictionary. In Germany, he inadvertently (or was it?) introduced the phrase Der Tod oder die Gladiolen, a Dutch saying meaning literally “death or the gladioli”: all or nothing. This is because if Mr. Van Gaal speaks your language, it is no longer your language, it’s his. It is not Mr. Van Gaal who has trouble speaking English, it is you, for not going along with his obviously much better interpretation of it.

6. Try to avoid the meta-interview An interview with Mr. Van Gaal will almost inevitably wind up being an interview about the interview, or more specifically, him asking questions about your questions. This will be the moment you feel the conversation is slipping away from you. Switch back to the studio, or it will end up on YouTube.

7. Don’t repeat the question Never mind - you will fail at this. You won’t fool him, even if you think your follow-up question is a cleverly rephrased, well disguised one. He’ll say: “I just told you”. This is inevitable. Don’t try to avoid it, just try to get over it as smoothly as possible, like you would at a speed bump.

8. Keep on your toes At some point, you will think Mr. Van Gaal is joking. Sure, he does it with a straight face, but he’s joking, he must be. He’s mocking you. Or is he really this angry about this little thing you just said? No - it can’t be. You start to stammer. Ha! He’s just taking a… wait, is he? You will never know, as only Mr. Van Gaal knows. And he never breaks character.

9. Distinguish fact from opinion This is hard, as only Mr. Van Gaal can determinewhich are facts and which are opinions. Which team was disadvantaged by the ref, or which team should have won based on the number of chances? He, and only he, will have the answer. These are the facts. Your facts are opinions. After the 1-1 draw of The Netherlands against Ecuador last Saturday, he called the 0-1 an “unfortunate ball moment”: nothing to do about it. In Mr. Van Gaal’s world, this makes perfect sense. In your world it may not, but you are not to point this out, as he will call you dumb.

10. Stay under three minutes Try to get everything you need within that window. After that, the chances of hitting a conversational speed bump will statistically rise. You’ll start wandering into other realms of conversation (how about this or that rumour, Mr. Van Gaal?), or you will ask a question a second time, or he will say you did. After that, you’re on your own. Good luck, mate.