Van Gaal is a clown

it turns out that Van gaal knows more about football and what it takes to concoct a successful team than some 20 something nobodies with no first hand experience in football in any capacity on some forum .


shocking .

farfan wrote:it turns out that Van gaal knows more about football and what it takes to concoct a successful team than some 20 something nobodies with no first hand experience in football in any capacity on some forum .


shocking .

Go and have a look at the United section if you want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

There's nothing wrong with what's said in this thread, fact is he was making clown like decisions at the time.

Would be like me failing at my job and then turning it around months later and expecting everyone to forget it all.

Fair play for turning it around but let's not change history and attack people for rightly criticising him in the moment. Even if it's the cool thing to do on the Internet, so unbelievably defensive lol.

it's ok mole, typical, he is winning now so y'all criticizing him before were wrong

hey, at least Jones is not taking corners anymore...

The thing with GL is that everyone is rushing and exaggerating everything.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:There's nothing wrong with what's said in this thread, fact is he was making clown like decisions at the time.

Would be like me failing at my job and then turning it around months later and expecting everyone to forget it all.

Fair play for turning it around but let's not change history and attack people for rightly criticising him in the moment. Even if it's the cool thing to do on the Internet, so unbelievably defensive lol.

This ^

What he was doing until this run wasnt anything special. And even this combination which is working nicely now came to being after a series of lucky blessing in disguise injuries and suspensions.

No one can take away the work he has done on fringe players like fellani and young, and tactic wise eventhough there is this perception that he is taking United in the direction of Ajax 95 with positional play philosophy, this formation  which we are playing right now, which is working right now, we arent using it for the 1st time.
As a matter of fact we used this 4-3-3 in some matches were we fared really well in the 1st half of the season. City away, Chelsea home etc.
He could have just continued using that from thereon. But in order to accommodate continuously failing players like rvp, falcao and di maria he compromised that working system and started using 3 at the back horseshit for quite a while. Now perhaps we can argue it was also because we had so many defenders injured that time and due to lack of trust in make shift full backs he used that. But still the favoritism towards some players really poked out in his team selections.

So like Mole said I dont think we did anything wrong by criticizing him when he was effing it up. And the fact that even if now things have changed for the better, we cant just pull the rug over the dirt like that. Perhaps because of his ego, whatever the reason was , his tenure so far hasnt been flawless by any means.

criticizing a world class coach and branding him a clown halfway through the season when  he's sitting comfortably in the top 4 and doing way better than his predecessor is incredibly short sighted .

finding the perfect balance and suited formation isn't as easy in real life as it is on FIFA and FM , it usually takes a lengthy and painful period of experimenting before striking gold .

not to mention that coaches have access to their players in a way that we don't .
that " retarded " midfield trio  probably  worked like a charm in training the previous day .  that out of position player who struggled in the match might've crushed it in  training and fit like a glove . and that weird free kick taker choice was probably due to the player scoring 5 straight freekicks in training the other day .
a coach of Van Gaal's caliber  has earned the right to be granted the benefit of the doubt .
the only people who had it right in this thread are the ones who predicted Van Gaal's inevitable success .

some retarted fans Madrid did the same to Ancelotti last year .

Predicting van Gaal's 'inevitable success' is a bit short sighted too, though.

While I agree the fact that they are playing like they are playing now is a result of his work so far, and van Gaal has a methodical way of building a team that takes time, there's still so many ways he's likely to mess up.

For example, a big factor in the recent successes was RvP being unavailable, so that Rooney could play as a striker instead of a central midfielder, where he played before due to both Rooney (as "his" captain, as he likes to say, instead of the team's captain) and RvP, as the teacher's pet, being undroppable.

What will happen when RvP is back?

Will van Gaal mess up his winning formula? Will he have a falling out with RvP similar to the one he had with van Bommel?

What will happen when his preference for functional players like Young will increasingly collide with the superstars Utd bought and will continue to buy in summer?

What will happen when it turns out that Utd continue to be very vulnerable at the back?

etc pp

Because let's face it, van Gaal is kind of a clown, even if he's a top coach too.

farfan wrote:criticizing a world class coach and branding him a clown halfway through the season when  he's sitting comfortably in the top 4 and doing way better than his predecessor is incredibly short sighted .

finding the perfect balance and suited formation isn't as easy in real life as it is on FIFA and FM , it usually takes a lengthy and painful period of experimenting before striking gold .

not to mention that coaches have access to their players in a way that we don't .
that " retarded " midfield trio  probably  worked like a charm in training the previous day .  that out of position player who struggled in the match might've crushed it in  training and fit like a glove . and that weird free kick taker choice was probably due to the player scoring 5 straight freekicks in training the other day .
a coach of Van Gaal's caliber  has earned the right to be granted the benefit of the doubt .
the only people who had it right in this thread are the ones who predicted Van Gaal's inevitable success .

some retarted fans Madrid did the same to Ancelotti last year .

the argument you are putting forth to back your opinion is not solid either. You are simply assuming those might have happened behind the scenes based on an image you have regarding van gaal.
 
You are implying lvg has done that way because he have the access to the squad and its players like the fans dont have. Okay if thats the case How about a scenario where a player after repeatedly failing in a match situation again and again gets to do the job because he is showing commitment and passion in training. I am sorry thats absurd. As per that rule any player who play shit can impress in training and can get selected for matches ahead of others who doesnt get any opportunity at all.

He had already got that balance once. A 1-1 draw against a high flying Chelsea and a 0-1 defeat when we were down to 10 men against city plus a couple of other good displays as well.  But what happened after that. He needlessly tinkered that balanced set up to accommodate his favorite players deploying an alien formation. Lost a lot of games. Played like shit. Went back to that balanced system he gave up earlier just like that (that again owing to his favorite players becoming unavailable) and viola ! we started winning again playing fluid football

Its easy to comment like this from outside. And its not like we are criticizing because of shoddy results or defeats or anything like that. And this I can guarantee cos of the moyes reign. No Man u fan will be hypercritical anymore about coaches. Owe a great deal to Moyes for that actually. Its the approach of the coach that is resulting in turning against him. Because we are seeing on a daily basis in terms of performance and the way its set up on the pitch. Because we are sure it can be done in a better way (as in better players or formation) thats from where the worry is starting to emanate.

But having said all that I am reiterating that he deserve credit for turning it around, be it intentionally or accidentally he did bring about the change, thats only matters in the end. the man deserve a lot of plaudits for that.

Not sure if Van Gaal or Kevin Keegan circia. 1995/96



The man is losing it

LMFAOOOOO

Don't even know what he's trying to articulate towards the end of the interview

Lex wrote:Not sure if Van Gaal or Kevin Keegan circia. 1995/96



The man is losing it

He is not.
And Dont see anything wrong with any of those answers he has given as well. Anyway Its way better than Jose's interviews.

God how annoying these interviews can be from the point of managers.

Lex wrote:Not sure if Van Gaal or Kevin Keegan circia. 1995/96



The man is losing it

Why is he losing it? That reporter is annoying and asking the same question over and over again just to get some angry reaction out of him.

You can see Van Gaal is angry and not satisfied with that defeat but yet he pushes on, while in the beginning VG is polite.

At what point is Van Gaal "polite"? When the guy with the mic tries to get his feelings on how the game went and Van Gaal says "it doesn't matter how I feel", or when LVG starts hounding the guy about whether he thinks this was the best game of the century or not?

Lex, you can't lose something you never had.

Lex wrote:Not sure if Van Gaal or Kevin Keegan circia. 1995/96



The man is losing it

Could say the same thing about Wenger after the many moanings he gave straight after an Arsenal loss, or the rare occasions he nearly fought an opposition manager in the dug out. Was he losing it then?

Could say the same thing about Mourinho with the way he's disgraced himself many times when things werent going well for him on the pitch.

That's just 2 examples.

LVG is a winner, hates losing obviously. And that defeat hurt him because we played well and came away with a loss. I liked his response there, shows how much he cares.

He has every right to get annoyed at that interviewer...

Comes across as a dick

Sure the generic questions sucked but getting all make believe angry because somebody is asking you simple questions is pathetic.

He just lost a game which everyone agrees he was supposed to win, and he is supposed to be happy? The questions were not only generic but also repetitive, if the interviewer is going to put so little effort into it then why should he answer them with a smile?

Lex wrote:At what point is Van Gaal "polite"? When the guy with the mic tries to get his feelings on how the game went and Van Gaal says "it doesn't matter how I feel", or when LVG starts hounding the guy about whether he thinks this was the best game of the century or not?

Compare him in the beginning and in the end, his tone, voice and you'll see. Its his own personal opinion the game was the best one so who is the reporter to push so much when someone doesn't want to talk. He deserved what he got.

Simply the man answered his question in the beginning it was evident he doesn't want to talk about it anymore.

And yes he was polite when he said : ' It doesn't matter how I feel' because its true, no matter how he feels they lost when they were the better team. Bo manager will react better than him in those idiotic repeating questions.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:He just lost a game which everyone agrees he was supposed to win, and he  is supposed to be happy? The questions were not only generic but also repetitive, if the interviewer is going to put so little effort into it then why should he answer them with a smile?

BarrileteCosmico wrote:He just lost a game which everyone agrees he was supposed to win, and he is supposed to be happy? The questions were not only generic but also repetitive, if the interviewer is going to put so little effort into it then why should he answer them with a smile?

I disagree Utd were suppose to win the game.

Take away the early Rooney chance and we had the best chances of the game.

Also, if we were playing Costa or Remy, they would have scored the 1 v 1 that Drogba was too slow for. Then we would have cruised home.

Utd were not good enough to beat us, our gameplan was to defend, and defend we did. It's not like we were lucky to not concede.

Kick wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:He just lost a game which everyone agrees he was supposed to win, and he  is supposed to be happy? The questions were not only generic but also repetitive, if the interviewer is going to put so little effort into it then why should he answer them with a smile?

I disagree Utd were suppose to win the game.

Take away the early Rooney chance and we had the best chances of the game.

Also, if we were playing Costa or Remy, they would have scored the 1 v 1 that Drogba was too slow for. Then we would have cruised home.

Utd were not good enough to beat us, our gameplan was to defend, and defend we did. It's not like we were lucky to not concede.

What a load of tripe. Chelsea fans, FFS.

Kick wrote:I disagree Utd were suppose to win the game.

Take away the early Rooney chance and we had the best chances of the game.

Also, if we were playing Costa or Remy, they would have scored the 1 v 1 that Drogba was too slow for. Then we would have cruised home.

Utd were not good enough to beat us, our gameplan was to defend, and defend we did. It's not like we were lucky to not concede.

Didn't watch the game, just going off what everyone has been saying.

You're right. Utd dominated, those numerous passes between Mcnair and Smalling had me worried

Utd had no answer to our tactics yet LVG called it your best game this season