Re: The Lionel Messi Appreciation Thread & Fan Club II

by Thimmy Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:08 pm

linetty wrote:Refdrid everywhere. No hesitation when Di Maria dived but Messi gets taken down and the ref is impassive.

Yes, someone from Real Madrid needs to be punished for this :coffee:

by Harmonica Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:29 pm

Cruz_del_Sur wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
jibers wrote:In terms of decisiveness only Gerd muller can compare tbh. Shame he didn't score in the final though.
Müller is a great shout, also Rossi for World Cup.

World Cup Career

Matches (Won - Drawn - Lost)

Pele 14 (12 - 1 - 1) = 86% win
Schillaci 7 (6 - 0 - 1) = 86% win
That is not right. Schillaci played 1990s WC. He never lost a game. Argentina vs Italy (the game that took Italy out of the competition) was a draw.

How does draw eliminate you? It was a loss.

by Myesyats Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:00 pm

Thimmy wrote:
linetty wrote:Refdrid everywhere. No hesitation when Di Maria dived but Messi gets taken down and the ref is impassive.

Yes, someone from Real Madrid needs to be punished for this

I know, right? I see we understand each other perfectly drinking

by Myesyats Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:39 am

I think that video raises a question. I mean, how do you stop this man 1v1 other than fouling him?

by Gil Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:52 am

linetty wrote:I think that video raises a question. I mean, how do you stop this man 1v1 other than fouling him?

More impressive imo. 2 best in the World no doubt.

by ahmad25 Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:11 am

Gil wrote:
linetty wrote:I think that video raises a question. I mean, how do you stop this man 1v1 other than fouling him?

More impressive imo. 2 best in the World no doubt.

Difference is that Hazard dribbles in EPL and messi in la liga. There is space difference just ask CR.
If you notice messi gets hit push grabbing in every dribble.its looks like he is fighting for his life there. I watched hazard video he doesnt get such treatement.
EPL has too much space and freedom if hazard does these dribblings in la liga i will admit he is the top 2 player in the world

by ahmad25 Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:52 am

Just counted foul stats in both videos
Messi gets fouled 22 times
Hazard gets fouled 4 times

What it says about EPL and La liga?

IMO Messi would be best ever dribbler in EPL. he did great dribblings vs m.city but what if he played vs weak teams in EPL? He would look like mix of maradona pele and garrincha

by Myesyats Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:09 am

by Myesyats Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:20 am

Most successful dribbles in last 6 CL seasons:
Messi 318
Hazard 155
Franck Ribery 150
Ronaldo 149
Iniesta 135

by Harmonica Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:25 pm

Roberto López (tattoo artist): "I received a WhatsApp message telling me 'Hi I'm Leo'. He received my number through a mutual friend."

I had a clear idea, but I had to find the images and compositing it."

"He, personally, organized the trip. He didn't delegate it to anyone."

"He picked me up at the hotel. He drove the car and helped me to load my suitcase in the car."

"I traveled two times to Barcelona. And, as details remain to be polished, we will come back after the Copa América."

"He's very resistant to pain. We had 3 sessions in 1 week, something extraordinary I haven't done with someone else"

"I received a great reward from Leo, but I will not say how much. He gave me shirts, pants... and money."

"We did it at his home, in the living room. He offered me if I wanted anything and he told me I could ask anything I want. Anything."

"We agreed that he will tattoo me something. He did me a 10 on the right wrist. "

"One day he presented me Neymar, whom I made a couple of tattoos, at Messi's home. He also gave me shirts and stuff. I almost cried."

by Valkyrja Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:35 pm

linetty wrote:Most successful dribbles in last 6 CL seasons:
Messi 318
Hazard 155
Franck Ribery 150
Ronaldo 149
Iniesta 135

And for years I've thought that Iniesta is a better dribbler than Cristiano Laughing

by BarrileteCosmico Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:48 pm

He is, you're just looking at one of Iniesta's worst seasons in recent memory.

by Valkyrja Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:40 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:He is, you're just looking at one of Iniesta's worst seasons in recent memory.

The last 6 ?

by BarrileteCosmico Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:44 pm

Oh, nevermind :facepalm:

He's still a worse dribbler though, Iniesta just plays further behind and has less opportunities to showcase his ability

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:52 pm

Doesn't matter what the numbers say lol, other than Messi no one on that list can do this....

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by futbol Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:23 am

OPTA doesn't have a convincing definition of a "dribble". When Ronaldo knocks the ball past a defender and runs after it faster than the defender to get past him it already counts as a "dribble" for OPTA. Bale for example statistically had more dribbles than Isco last season in CL + La Liga. Laughing

If you actually think Ronaldo is a better dribbler than Iniesta you need your head checked.

by Bankz Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:38 am

Fußball wrote:OPTA doesn't have a convincing definition of a "dribble". When Ronaldo knocks the ball past a defender and runs after it faster than the defender to get past him it already counts as a "dribble" for OPTA. Bale for example statistically had more dribbles than Isco last season in CL + La Liga.

If you actually think Ronaldo is a better dribbler than Iniesta you need your head checked.

by Harmonica Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:04 am

Messi was fouled (8 ) and had more successful dribbles (11) four times as much as the next best one, Di Maria (1 and 4). #exhaustive

by Myesyats Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:32 am

by dostoevsky Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:59 am

Can someone please explain to me why Messi was booked after that?

by Myesyats Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:05 am

dostoevsky wrote:Can someone please explain to me why Messi was booked after that?

Ask that retarded ref hmm

It should be appealed, I heard that if Messi gets another yellow he could miss the final - is that true?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:10 pm

dostoevsky wrote:Can someone please explain to me why Messi was booked after that?

For being too good hmm

by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:14 pm

dostoevsky wrote:Can someone please explain to me why Messi was booked after that?

I think where he loses the ball and goes against the body of the defender was judged to be an attacking foul. I have no idea how. The refereeing was very spotty all night.

If any of Kun, Messi or Masche get a yellow in the next game they will miss the final.

by Myesyats Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:18 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:If any of Kun, Messi or Masche get a yellow in the next game they will miss the final.

wtf smh

Messis yellow needs to be appealed. What a stupid tournament this is

by dostoevsky Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:19 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
dostoevsky wrote:Can someone please explain to me why Messi was booked after that?
I think where he loses the ball and goes against the body of the defender was judged to be an attacking foul. I have no idea how. The refereeing was very spotty all night.

If any of Kun, Messi or Masche get a yellow in the next game they will miss the final.

Meanwhile a two footed lunge from behind which missed the ball by Jackson Martinez wasn't even blinked at. Laughing

It would be a disgrace if Messi missed the final on the basis of that card. At least Mascherano was fairly booked.

Has optometry not reached the continent of South America?

by Harmonica Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:23 am

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2 Vidal (CHI)
2 Valdez (PAR)
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