Barclay's Premier League '14-'15 discussion V8

Mole your team was robbed

We were so flat and looked like never scoring until Krul felt sorry for us and 'gifted' us a goal.

Big win regarding how our rivals' results went tonight.

RedOranje wrote:Fantastic spirit and determination in Burnley's squad. If it was matched by footballing intelligence and talent they'd be in the top 10 easily. Made it difficult all match though the stats will suggest Liverpool won comfortably.

Really wish we'd scored earlier as I think we would have run the score up a bit if we had. We desperately need a boost to goal difference as we still lag behind and the other sides challenging for top 4 just aren't dropping points.

Yea Dyche has given them great mentality. If they had a slightly better squad then they would at least finish 15th or a bit higher. They can still escape but it doesn't seem likely

Natalie Portman wrote:I see the Dutch connection of Krul-LVG was in full effect tonight.

We'd absolutely put at least 4 past them. Bring on March 22nd.

You lot are nothing special. Calm down.

We'll batter you worse than the 3-0 at OT.

Yep for me Sean Dyche made a half miracle. Burnley had to do as Derby County 2008 on paper.
Burnley was always a tough opponent for every team , very organized, it was impossible to pretend more from a team who might be the worst team ever to be gone in Premier League.
It was enough shameful the attitude by Burnley management.
You are a terrible team , you go in Premier League, and don't you spend ?
If Dyche got decent signings he would have saved these scrubs.

RedOranje wrote:Fantastic spirit and determination in Burnley's squad. If it was matched by footballing intelligence and talent they'd be in the top 10 easily. Made it difficult all match though the stats will suggest Liverpool won comfortably.

Really wish we'd scored earlier as I think we would have run the score up a bit if we had. We desperately need a boost to goal difference as we still lag behind and the other sides challenging for top 4 just aren't dropping points.

for some reason I like their team !! I think they play with their lungs out there. I think the manager is also good.
We cant afford to lose points before Utd visit. It is necessary that LVG comes with his lame tactics to draw against us so that it will be easy for us to have a go at them.

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:ffs, the Utd draw was necessary toda...Liberty is not an easy place to visit. Now we need to win that game also !!

Nah. Swansea are safe and on the beach. They also play open football and hate being pressed. We should be fine there.

Man Utd vs. Spurs next round. Hope Spurs make it 3 wins in a row at OT.

RED wrote:

Natalie Portman wrote:I see the Dutch connection of Krul-LVG was in full effect tonight.

We'd absolutely put at least 4 past them. Bring on March 22nd.

You lot are nothing special. Calm down.

We'll batter you worse than the 3-0 at OT.

Yo can't batter a GL XI these days.

I wonder if you actually said that with a straight face.

Everton Bottom Three Watch:
Not Yet.

Ffs that United goal dampened my mood after our good win

At least Everton still lost.

Everton fans are starting to get worried. Obviously they won't get relegated, but they are awfuly close to being 17th at least.

Guess winning El and getting relegated will be a new thing

Don't underestimate sides with the talent of United, regardless of current form. A big match can bring out the best in players who are otherwise playing poorly, especially players like Rooney and Fellaini who have a bit of personal edge to it as well. LVG, for all his faults, knows how to get results in big matches (though perhaps not consistently) so don't write them off by any means.

Long way to go yet.

RealGunner wrote:Everton fans are starting to get worried. Obviously they won't get relegated, but they are awfuly close to being 17th at least.

Guess winning El and getting relegated will be a new thing

Everton are SOO lucky that Leicester/QPR/Burnley can't buy a win these days. It's outstanding that Everton have won 1 of their last 15 PL games, yet are somehow still not in relegation zone.

Natalie Portman wrote:

RED wrote:

Natalie Portman wrote:I see the Dutch connection of Krul-LVG was in full effect tonight.

We'd absolutely put at least 4 past them. Bring on March 22nd.

You lot are nothing special. Calm down.

We'll batter you worse than the 3-0 at OT.

Yo can't batter a GL XI these days.

I wonder if you actually said that with a straight face.

We're not playing well, we won't batter you, just like you won't put 4 past us, but we'll win.

RealGunner wrote:Everton fans are starting to get worried. Obviously they won't get relegated, but they are awfuly close to being 17th at least.

Guess winning El and getting relegated will be a new thing

Basically, David Moyes is a Football Genius.

Natalie Portman wrote:

RealGunner wrote:Everton fans are starting to get worried. Obviously they won't get relegated, but they are awfuly close to being 17th at least.

Guess winning El and getting relegated will be a new thing

Everton are SOO lucky that Leicester/QPR/Burnley can't buy a win these days. It's outstanding that Everton have won 1 of their last 15 PL games, yet are somehow still not in relegation zone.

WTF SERIOUSLY?

Didn't know that

RealGunner wrote:Everton fans are starting to get worried. Obviously they won't get relegated, but they are awfuly close to being 17th at least.

Guess winning El and getting relegated will be a new thing

I'd say about 97% have turned against Martinez and want him sacked after tonight on GOT.

RED wrote:

Natalie Portman wrote:

RED wrote:


You lot are nothing special. Calm down.

We'll batter you worse than the 3-0 at OT.

Yo can't batter a GL XI these days.

I wonder if you actually said that with a straight face.

We're not playing well, we won't batter you, just like you won't put 4 past us, but we'll win.

2 Month avatar bet. Be a man of your word and take it.

Natalie Portman wrote:

RED wrote:

Natalie Portman wrote:

Yo can't batter a GL XI these days.

I wonder if you actually said that with a straight face.

We're not playing well, we won't batter you, just like you won't put 4 past us, but we'll win.

2 Month avatar bet. Be a man of your word and take it.

2 months is too long.

Make it 1 week and I'll take it.

On another topic, how bad are LFC's set pieces? Corners in particular seem utterly worthless for us... would almost rather have a throw-in. Perhaps though I'm just spoiled from our success last Spring.

Bah gawd, dat 4th place trophy race.

Arsenal: 54
United: 53
Liverpool: 51
Southampton: 49
Spurs: 47

Mule League but suspenseful Mule League.

RedOranje wrote:Don't underestimate sides with the talent of United, regardless of current form.  A big match can bring out the best in players who are otherwise playing poorly, especially players like Rooney and Fellaini who have a bit of personal edge to it as well.  LVG, for all his faults, knows how to get results in big matches (though perhaps not consistently) so don't write them off by any means.

Long way to go yet.

That's very true. With that kind of luck, they can fluke wins while being atrociously bad against any team, so the notion of a tough fixture run doesn't really apply to them.

RealGunner wrote:

Guess winning El and getting relegated will be a new thing

Not entirely new for Martinez though, didn't he practise a similar move already at Wigan?

it was one of the better performances actually. 3 sure goals were saved (2 from fellaini, 1 from young) by krul, rooney slotting past a sitter wide of krul. Newcastle had a penalty not given and a golden opportunity missed by Cisse. If all the chances were taken it would have been a 4-2 or 4-3 (if we include ddg's performance) win for us. We dominated the game as a matter of fact in a rather unattractive way. Also newcastle didnt really wanted to win the match. They were parking the bus. Feel sorry for Mole, man. Carver is embarrassing, really.

These people here had their matches to watch and only saw our fluke goal and as expected assumed we were lucky again.
The thing we lack right now actually is the tempo and urgency. And that might be down to lvg's philosophy of playing safe with possession. Dont have a plan B. Thats the big flaw. Its only possession and more possession.

Why has noone made a Mame Biram Bidoof image yet? That needs to be a thing.

Henderson today though

Somehow managed to be better than Sunday. Amazing goal, fantastic assist, and some through balls that were like prime Gerrard

Before Moyes :
1991-1992 - 12° in First Division.
1992-1993 - 13° in FA Premier League.
1993-1994 - 17° in FA Premier League.
1994-1995 - 15° in FA Premier League.
1995-1996 - 6° in FA Premier League.
1996-1997 - 15° in FA Premier League.
1997-1998 - 17° in FA Premier League.
1998-1999 - 14° in FA Premier League.
1999-2000 - 13° in FA Premier League.
2000-2001 - 16° in FA Premier League.
2001-2002 - 15° in FA Premier League.

(always in 2nd half  of the table)

Under Moyes :
2002-2003 - 7° in FA Premier League.
2003-2004 - 17° FA Premier League.
2004-2005 - 4° in FA Premier League.
2005-2006 - 11° in FA Premier League.
2006-2007 - 6° in FA Premier League.
2007-2008 - 5° in Premier League.
2008-2009 - 5° in Premier League.
2009-2010 - 8° in Premier League.
2010-2011 - 7° in Premier League.
2011-2012 - 7° in Premier League.
2012-2013 - 6° in Premier League.

(always in 1st half of the table)

After Moyes
2013-2014 - 5° in Premier League.
2014-2015  - Relegation Battle

( ohhh..... )

What a legend

Not sure what maths you're using, but 17th and 11th are not in the top half of the table (nor is 6th in the bottom half).

At let's be completely fair if we're taking such a small sample size for Martinez; his record so far matches up pretty evenly with Moyes's first couple of seasons in charge.