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Post by Myesyats Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:52 pm

Deja Vu wrote:

Sell him tbh.

Laughing :facepalm:

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Post by Myesyats Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:24 pm

Braida confirmed to an Italian outlet that he will travel to Brazil next week as Barcelona has a first option to sign Gerson.
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Post by À bout de souffle Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:32 pm

Fußball wrote:I have no FB. Can you copy the original text in German? Then I could look into it.


Here..

Liebe Fans,
normalerweise äußere ich mich nicht zu Medienberichten, schon gar nicht über Facebook. Ich möchte diesmal aber einige Dinge zurecht rücken und euch einen besseren Einblick verschaffen.
In den letzten Wochen hab ich, wie ihr, immer wieder gelesen, wo ich nicht schon fix unterschrieben hätte. Heute bei Vertragsverhandlungen hier, morgen beim Medizincheck dort. Am Anfang konnte ich darüber noch schmunzeln, als aber von "Vertragspoker" und "Abzocke" die Rede war, hat mich dass schon sehr nachdenklich gestimmt. Nachdem gestern eine ominöse Zahl in den Medien aufgetaucht ist, habe ich beschlossen, nun selbst etwas dazu zu sagen.
Die Saison 2014/15 ist streng genommen erst am 30.06.2015 zu Ende. Obwohl bisher europaweit noch kaum Transfers getätigt worden sind, wurde von mir von Gerücht zu Gerücht mehr verlangt, lieber doch heute als morgen eine finale Entscheidung zu treffen. Ganz vergessen wurde dabei: Ich habe noch ein Jahr Vertrag beim BVB.
Was mir wichtig ist: das ist alles weder eine Zockerei, noch eine Hinhaltetaktik. Wie es für mich persönlich weitergeht, werde ich baldmöglichst - aber erst nach der Saison und unserem wichtigen Spiel für die EM Qualifikation mit der Nationalelf - entscheiden.
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Post by futbol Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:16 am

He says:

"The season is, stricly speaking, over at the 30th of June. Although until now Europe-wide not many transfers have been closed, from rumour to rumour people expect from me to make a final decision rather today than tomorrow. Completely forgotten in all of that: I still have a 1 year contract at BVB."

That's the part that was left out in the above translation.

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Post by Myesyats Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:48 am

Braida (transfer adviser): "Of course we're interested in Pogba, all clubs are. I talked with Juve. I'd advise him to join Barça." [gazz tv]

Barcelona have intensified the contacts to sign Juventus midfielder Paul Pogba (22). Club executives have met with his agent. [sport]
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Post by eelir Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:39 pm

MD and Sport reporting Braida going to Brasil for Gerson and Kenedy from Fluminense. Anyone has any info about them?
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Post by À bout de souffle Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:23 pm

Fußball wrote:He says:

"The season is, stricly speaking, over at the 30th of June. Although until now Europe-wide not many transfers have been closed, from rumour to rumour people expect from me to make a final decision rather today than tomorrow. Completely forgotten in all of that: I still have a 1 year contract at BVB."

That's the part that was left out in the above translation.


Thanks da.

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Post by windkick Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:55 am

eelir wrote:MD and Sport reporting Braida going to Brasil for Gerson and Kenedy from Fluminense. Anyone has any info about them?


The Gerson thing was brought up before ..

Deja Vu wrote:

Not very impressed tbh. Neutral


and here is a video about Kenedy, first I hear about this

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Post by messixaviesta Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:26 pm

If Angel Di Maria is available for a reasonable price, should we try buying him?


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Post by Deja Vu Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:51 pm

We shouldn't. I don't see him as a good fit in our system and I'm not sure in which role he'd play for us, anyway.
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Post by Myesyats Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:57 pm

messixaviesta wrote:If Angel Di Maria is available for a reasonable price, should we try buying him?


Tell me you're not serious. Please.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:53 pm

I will go against the grain and say maybe. But it depends on what you call reasonable and if he has no problem with a more rotational role than any player who cost 80 whatever he cost would be used to having.

I would be interested to hear the reasons why he couldnt do a role similar to what Rakitic does now, defending the right flank and then getting back into he center if we fail the pressing in the defensive transition (he has done that many times in his career, for at least 2 different teams) and attacking the middle or the flank depending on the movement of Messi. I would like to hear why he couldnt do either of those two things.

The issue comes in his ball retention and safety. Could he lower his turnovers? Rakitic isnt the most technical player in the world (nor is he inept in any way), but he doesnt give the ball away much. Though part of that is he isnt getting the ball from the back 4 with responsibility to turn or play under pressing in his own half, rarely ever do you see that, he abandons the midfield in some way to make himself available higher up the pitch should a more direct pass need to be played back from the receiver or should the move break down, be there to cover whichever area Messi/Suarez do not.

And in terms of the value of Di Maria. Could he not play left wing if Neymar was missing? Could we not put Neymar in the middle even and Di Maria to the wing if Suarez was out?

So, overall I would like to hear the reasons why not.
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Post by windkick Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:52 pm

Barcelona have an option to sign Fluminense players Gerson and Kenedy, sporting director Ariedo Braida has said.

Catalan newspaper Sport reports that Braida will now travel to Brazil to assess the two players.

"One of our intermediaries lives in Brazil and he has been working on this," Braida told Gazzetta TV. "There has been an option to sign the two for some time now."

Gerson, 18, is an attacking midfielder while Kenedy, 19, is a forward.

ESPN Brasil was informed earlier this month that Barca had already offered €20 million for Gerson and, while Juventus had made a superior offer, the player would prefer a move to the Camp Nou.

Members of the Fluminense hierarchy have informed ESPN Brasil that they are confident Barca will pay closer to €30 million for Gerson.

Barcelona are currently serving a FIFA transfer ban that prevents any new signings from representing the club until January.

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These guys that beast then why is neither in the U20 squad for Brazil?
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Post by futbol Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:05 pm

Because it's another shady Traffic money laundering signing.

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Post by Ganso Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:09 pm

windkick wrote:
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These guys that beast then why is neither in the U20 squad for Brazil?

Gerson refused the call up (lol) and Kenedy was injured
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Post by windkick Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:54 pm

Ganso, have any information on those 2? Look like Nerman type players
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Post by windkick Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:54 pm

Apparently we are gonna lose Kovacic to Liverpool; wtf lol
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Post by Ganso Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:11 pm

windkick wrote:Ganso, have any information on those 2? Look like Nerman type players


dont like kenedy, carbon copy of hulk
i havent seen much from gerson, but he looks like a promising midfielder
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Post by Donuts Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:20 pm

if i remember correctly chelsea wanted gerson, so did another big club

don't think these two are douglas like transfer.
just we are genuinely looking for people that we can play in january
also wonder if now were linked to more attacking players because pedro might leave?
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Post by windkick Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:30 pm

Braida's been working his ass off since taking over for Zubi. Asking 10M for Montoya, and actively trying to get/link us with Kovacic, Gundogan, Pogba, Kenedy, and Gerson

Not bad
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:33 am

Ganso wrote:
windkick wrote:Ganso, have any information on those 2? Look like Nerman type players


dont like kenedy, carbon copy of hulk
i havent seen much from gerson, but he looks like a promising midfielder


Who's the top prospect in Brazil right now? That Nathan kid Chelsea got ?
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Post by messixaviesta Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:11 pm

The Franchise wrote:I will go against the grain and say maybe. But it depends on what you call reasonable and if he has no problem with a more rotational role than any player who cost 80 whatever he cost would be used to having.

I would be interested to hear the reasons why he couldnt do a role similar to what Rakitic does now, defending the right flank and then getting back into he center if we fail the pressing in the defensive transition (he has done that many times in his career, for at least 2 different teams) and attacking the middle or the flank depending on the movement of Messi. I would like to hear why he couldnt do either of those two things.

The issue comes in his ball retention and safety. Could he lower his turnovers? Rakitic isnt the most technical player in the world (nor is he inept in any way), but he doesnt give the ball away much. Though part of that is he isnt getting the ball from the back 4 with responsibility to turn or play under pressing in his own half, rarely ever do you see that, he abandons the midfield in some way to make himself available higher up the pitch should a more direct pass need to be played back from the receiver or should the move break down, be there to cover whichever area Messi/Suarez do not.

And in terms of the value of Di Maria. Could he not play left wing if Neymar was missing? Could we not put Neymar in the middle even and Di Maria to the wing if Suarez was out?

So, overall I would like to hear the reasons why not.

Excellent post. I don't know why people are overlooking how wonderfully well Di Maria did in 2013-14 and/or why they think he can never recover that level. He is young. In Luis Enrique's fast paced counter-attacking system he could help us by at times carrying the ball from one end to the other and at times running off the ball besides pressing and defending. We must consider Iniesta's aging. Its sad to say this but I suspect that his injury problems will only keep increasing and his stamina will keep decreasing. Like you said other than playing in midfield Di Maria can substitute for one of the forwards in case one of MSN is not available. If there are certain aspects of his game that don't suit us they can be toned. I don't think he is too stubborn to listen and adapt. He would have a natural connection with Messi given their time together with Argentina right from the youth days.

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Post by Myesyats Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:20 pm

We must consider that Di Maria is also a diving rat. I don't care if he recovers his form, I'd rather give Rafinha or Halilović more time than have a Madrid reject wear blaugrana.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:30 pm

You are being against divers when your team is full of them lol?

I personally wouldn't care if i was you, everyone dives as much as it's frowned upon.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:44 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:You are being against divers when your team is full of them lol?

I personally wouldn't care if i was you, everyone dives as much as it's frowned upon.

I don't know anybody who dives as frequently and blatantly as di Maria.

The myth that Barca is full of divers is quite annoying. CR dives much more often than all the Barca players combined. Neymar cut off on his Brazilian tendency to dive. The only player who dives at Barca is probably Suarez. I don't count exxagerating duels (Biscuits, Alba, Alves).
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:50 pm

That's true but you have them, as does every team i wouldn't say that's a reason not to sign a player.
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