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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Bouhafsi the GOD has said the €20m bonuses will be payable if Martial is Top Scorer, Golden Boy and Ballon D'Or winner. Wise up.
Makes sense.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
so this supposed 80m euros is bullshit then
lmao GL tax
lmao GL tax
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Pretty much, yeah.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
RED wrote:Has the look of a winner.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
lol, knew the bonuses were gonna be dependant on some thing like that
if he actually hits those targets then it's money well spent
if he actually hits those targets then it's money well spent
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Could arguably be the biggest waste of 5 billion pounds ever.
Just need to confirm this with my GL accounts overseer Yohan Modric
Just need to confirm this with my GL accounts overseer Yohan Modric
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Meh. Shirt sales alone will bring in a huge portion of his 63m £ fee. Man Utd have a huge fanbase
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Lol. The bonuses are based over first team appearances in the next 3 years. Martial just needs to make 20 appearances a season for the bonus to get paid in full.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
do you have the source for that sports?
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Hapless_Hans wrote:do you have the source for that sports?
Of course he doesn't.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
I do lol. Just need to get home as doing links on crappy cel phone is difficult. Pretty simple rule in terms of bonuses.
- transfer bonuses trigger with playing time 99.999% of the time.
- performance bonuses trigger as part of a players contract 99.99999% of the time.
It was either in Nice Matin or La Provence just as a fyi.
- transfer bonuses trigger with playing time 99.999% of the time.
- performance bonuses trigger as part of a players contract 99.99999% of the time.
It was either in Nice Matin or La Provence just as a fyi.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Cool.
Link would be appreciated so I can keep dangling those 80m € in front of ManU fan's noses.
However, for example Vermaelens transfer to Barca included a CL win bonus. Were that the case in Martial's case, we could exclude it from the transfer fee by default
Link would be appreciated so I can keep dangling those 80m € in front of ManU fan's noses.
However, for example Vermaelens transfer to Barca included a CL win bonus. Were that the case in Martial's case, we could exclude it from the transfer fee by default
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
You only get that type of thing if the selling club is really motivated to get rid of their asset and are just trying to squeeze anything, as improbablr as it may be. It rarely happens even then. I've never seen it as part of a fee where the selling club doesn't want to sell but the buying club wants to make it impossible to refuse their offer.
The "bonus" is most often used to defer payments and to make it fall outside the scope of ffp.
As I read it, man u made a 50 mil offer straight up that Monaco refused and then kept adding quasi-guaranteed bonus add ons until Monaco accepted
The "bonus" is most often used to defer payments and to make it fall outside the scope of ffp.
As I read it, man u made a 50 mil offer straight up that Monaco refused and then kept adding quasi-guaranteed bonus add ons until Monaco accepted
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
The only question according to ALL reports in Framce was whether the base was 50 or 60 mil. The 80 mil figure was a given.
I mean, you had the NT coach talk about the pressure of being the most expensive French player ever. That how much the details had "leaked". Deschamps never comments on speculation so directly.
I mean, you had the NT coach talk about the pressure of being the most expensive French player ever. That how much the details had "leaked". Deschamps never comments on speculation so directly.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
http://m.nicematin.com/as-monaco/il-vaut-a-19-ans-80-millions-deuros.2325682.html
There's footnote "1" next to the transfer amount. It doesn't show up on mobile version... But I think that's where I saw the details.
Btw, Nice Matin, who is Monaco's.mouthpiece, has it at 60+20.
There's footnote "1" next to the transfer amount. It doesn't show up on mobile version... But I think that's where I saw the details.
Btw, Nice Matin, who is Monaco's.mouthpiece, has it at 60+20.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
lol it was only a matter of time before sports came with his unflappable french sources to make it seem like the french side had once again made out like bandits vs England
same old same old
same old same old
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
you can never take what he and Nick (to a lesser extent and almost exclusively only when PSG are involved) say regarding french football at face value
until I see some concrete details in the coming days/weeks it's 36m.
until I see some concrete details in the coming days/weeks it's 36m.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Its 98m according to my (and tom's) account
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
RMC said this (who originally broke it irc)
"Monaco will receive € 50 million guarantee. This will be paid in the amount of € 30 million up front, followed by four payments of € 5 million each year in July.
The additional unsecured expenses, totaling another € 30 million. These include € 5 million each time Martial is the top scorer in the Premier League, to a maximum of € 15 million. Another € 5 million will be due if Martial wins Golden Boy. The final € 10m will be paid if Martial won the Balon D'or career in Manchester. It is interesting to note that all the terms are future individual successes."
but count on Sports to pick his sources for the one that makes Monaco sound like they are getting more
"Monaco will receive € 50 million guarantee. This will be paid in the amount of € 30 million up front, followed by four payments of € 5 million each year in July.
The additional unsecured expenses, totaling another € 30 million. These include € 5 million each time Martial is the top scorer in the Premier League, to a maximum of € 15 million. Another € 5 million will be due if Martial wins Golden Boy. The final € 10m will be paid if Martial won the Balon D'or career in Manchester. It is interesting to note that all the terms are future individual successes."
but count on Sports to pick his sources for the one that makes Monaco sound like they are getting more
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Not as shocked/outraged/disgusted as most people.
I dunno, its clear to me there are two ways you can have a real elite 9 in todays game
Either you buy one, so that means signing Benzema, Suarez, Aguero and a couple others. All of these are unattainable.
Or you get one before they are elite and try to nurture them into it. If this boy has the talent for it I dont know but Man Utd need a striker and if they think he will become elite then the money wont matter.
I dunno, its clear to me there are two ways you can have a real elite 9 in todays game
Either you buy one, so that means signing Benzema, Suarez, Aguero and a couple others. All of these are unattainable.
Or you get one before they are elite and try to nurture them into it. If this boy has the talent for it I dont know but Man Utd need a striker and if they think he will become elite then the money wont matter.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Sorry but anybody denying that this deal isn't in the low 10 figure region is just covering up for yanited.
My sources are unquestionable, mainly because you can't question the voices I hear.
My sources are unquestionable, mainly because you can't question the voices I hear.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
what are exactly manu fans mad about? you paid 50 mil and bonuses are like appearances are easy to achieve so, if you pay up to 70 mil in the end, its still a desperate transfer.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
The Franchise wrote:Not as shocked/outraged/disgusted as most people.
I dunno, its clear to me there are two ways you can have a real elite 9 in todays game
Either you buy one, so that means signing Benzema, Suarez, Aguero and a couple others. All of these are unattainable.
Or you get one before they are elite and try to nurture them into it. If this boy has the talent for it I dont know but Man Utd need a striker and if they think he will become elite then the money wont matter.
That's all true.
The feeling I have though that being bought by Man United under these circumstances and for this huge fee is not the kind of surrounding that is beneficial for the 'nurturing' of talent.
The pressure is huge, and the patience will be shorter than with a lower fee.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
Could be. No idea if Man Utd can devolp him, no idea if the pressure of everything would cripple him, no idea if he even has anything like the talent to reach that kind of level.
I will say one thing, ManUtd could have thrown that money at Harry Kane (someone who seems to have Man Utd signing written all over him) and instead chose this guy. Someone has seen something.
I will say one thing, ManUtd could have thrown that money at Harry Kane (someone who seems to have Man Utd signing written all over him) and instead chose this guy. Someone has seen something.
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
The Franchise wrote:Not as shocked/outraged/disgusted as most people.
I dunno, its clear to me there are two ways you can have a real elite 9 in todays game
Either you buy one, so that means signing Benzema, Suarez, Aguero and a couple others. All of these are unattainable.
Or you get one before they are elite and try to nurture them into it. If this boy has the talent for it I dont know but Man Utd need a striker and if they think he will become elite then the money wont matter.
I agree with you but the reason I'm shocked is that theycould have went for a better player. Considering the fact they need a good/great goalscorer right NOW, I'm baffled that they went for a 19 yold player who scored 8 goals last season. Someone like Lacazette is a more proven goalscorer for instance. Also for that kind of money you can get great players like Reus, Gotze or even De bryune ( had they made a move earlier in the summer) .
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Re: Man Utd set to sign Monaco forward for €80m
LeBéninois wrote:The Franchise wrote:Not as shocked/outraged/disgusted as most people.
I dunno, its clear to me there are two ways you can have a real elite 9 in todays game
Either you buy one, so that means signing Benzema, Suarez, Aguero and a couple others. All of these are unattainable.
Or you get one before they are elite and try to nurture them into it. If this boy has the talent for it I dont know but Man Utd need a striker and if they think he will become elite then the money wont matter.
I agree with you but the reason I'm shocked is that theycould have went for a better player. Considering the fact they need a good/great goalscorer right NOW, I'm baffled that they went for a 19 yold player who scored 8 goals last season. Someone like Lacazette is a more proven goalscorer for instance. Also for that kind of money you can get great players like Reus, Gotze or even De bryune ( had they made a move earlier in the summer) .
I echoed similar concerns when this move materialized tbh, we need someone that can guarantee us goals now, this signing could easily go tits up. If we threw that kinda money at Lyon for Laca they would have sold. Same for Dortmund and Reus IMO.
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