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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon May 09, 2016 6:14 pm

Onyx wrote:As for Cass, I'd take him over Reigns considering he's virtually better at everything.

But they need to take their time with him and push him gradually. Let him organically get over as a singles guy. Otherwise it's just going to be another Reigns situation.


He's not, Reigns is a lot better at everything except maybe mic work and even then it's not massive imo which is what Enzo is for. The thing with Reigns is he's the no 1 guy so he should be a lot better than he is. But take promos out the window he's a lot better than most of the other guys who are not fantastic in ring with poor personality.

For example I'd rather see Reigns than Del Rio and Sheamus personally.

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Post by Onyx Mon May 09, 2016 6:33 pm

I don't know, I mean Del Rio actually had a gimmick and could talk. But he was pushed too soon. Reigns can't talk and has no personality. It's like picking the lesser of two evils. They all suck lol.

The only reason I would consider Reigns over Del Rio/Sheamus is because he causes controversy due to his reactions. But when you come to think of it that shouldn't even be a reason for a push.

Cass has shown he can talk and also has personality.

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Post by Kaladin Mon May 09, 2016 6:45 pm

Have no idea what Del Rio says on the mic half the time
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Post by Onyx Mon May 09, 2016 8:09 pm

Back when I was obsessed with Cena. Proud member of the chain gang. Proud


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Post by zizzle Mon May 09, 2016 8:11 pm

ADR over Reigns? come on now, lets be serious..
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Post by Onyx Mon May 09, 2016 8:38 pm

Ruthless Aggression era. Proud

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Post by Onyx Tue May 10, 2016 1:31 am

Cass already main eventing RAW. Vince pls.

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Post by Onyx Tue May 10, 2016 4:11 am

Crappy crowd didn't even chant for Sandow. Then again Omaha is one of their worst cities.

So stupid how they waste talent. Sandow could have easily been on TV. Instead we're witnessing the 4th repackaging of Los Matadores, shitty Darren Young segment, Goldust trying to twerk with Fandango and 2 divas segments.

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Post by M99 Tue May 10, 2016 4:26 am

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/andre-the-giant-biopic-1201769286/
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Post by zizzle Tue May 10, 2016 6:38 am

Another solid raw, but i hated how the booked the ending of the Roman AJ segment, made we want to like Roman less. I like what they're doing with Cass, this should keep him hot until Enzo is back. IC title has a mix of feuds and that's cool. Couldnt care less about the US title.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 10, 2016 7:53 am

Haven't watched it yet but I agree Zizzle on the handling of the AJ and Roman segment as I just watched that on YouTube.

Also I really don't like them teasing Styles Clash tbh lol, Roman is far too tall to do it on and he'd probably break his neck lmao.
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Post by Casciavit Tue May 10, 2016 11:51 am

Cena-Nakamura
Charlotte-Asuka
Brock-Owens

The main-events of the Hawaii special on June 29.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 10, 2016 12:23 pm

Is it gonna be just a house show and not televised or on the network?

Would actually watch that.
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Post by RealGunner Tue May 10, 2016 6:47 pm

Watching RAW

Big Cas is actually worse than Reigns on the mic.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 10, 2016 6:50 pm

I just finished watching it myself, agree with Zizzle on it being a decent RAW.

Only parts i fast forwarded was Ziggler-Corbin and the whole Truth-Fandango-Breeze-Goldust farce. Rest was pretty good IMO although as i said earlier i thought the AJ and Reigns segment ended poorly.
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Post by RealGunner Tue May 10, 2016 7:20 pm

Surprised they let Zayn beat Miz clean
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Post by RealGunner Tue May 10, 2016 7:27 pm

lmfao reigns clearing the ring Molenation

He has gone from full crowd of boos to mixed reaction now.


Ambrose rofl rofl


was an Ok raw at best.
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Post by Kaladin Tue May 10, 2016 7:30 pm

Ambrose doesnt have anything beside ddt?
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Post by RealGunner Tue May 10, 2016 7:30 pm

Casciavit wrote:Cena-Nakamura
Charlotte-Asuka
Brock-Owens

The main-events of the Hawaii special on June 29.


Actually sounds great apart from the divas match.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue May 10, 2016 7:36 pm

Asuka will make it good, she's probably the best worker in the company or at least very close to it.

ES wrote:Ambrose doesnt have anything beside ddt?


Well he does but not massive amounts, that's the dirty secret about him he's probably the worst in ring talent from the Shield.
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Post by M99 Tue May 10, 2016 8:19 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Asuka will make it good, she's probably the best worker in the company or at least very close to it.

ES wrote:Ambrose doesnt have anything beside ddt?


Well he does but not massive amounts, that's the dirty secret about him he's probably the worst in ring talent from the Shield.


No he is not. He has a lot of wrestling moves but he never uses them. You'll know after watching he pre WWE stuff. He is better than Reigns in ring.

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Post by Casciavit Tue May 10, 2016 8:27 pm

Ambrose is a great wrestler. It's just that he isn't a face wrestler, he's the definition of a heel wrestler.

Yes, I know the above didn't make much sense, but I don't know how else to explain it. Laughing

Ambrose is the least physically gifted guy on the roster alongside The Miz. A 'face wrestling style' is all about doing high spots, and athletic moves, especially nowadays. Ambrose can't do that, so he relies on cheap gimmick moves. He easily has the worst moveset on the roster, but his selling, and the way he gets his character over in matches, overshadows that.

As Bret Hart said, Ambrose gets the most out of doing very little.
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Post by zizzle Tue May 10, 2016 9:30 pm

The is literally the first time i see someone complaining about Ambrose's move set.

Apart from the stunner, how many moves does Austin have?
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Post by M99 Tue May 10, 2016 9:44 pm

I counter both points on Reigns being better in ring than Ambrose and Ambrose not being a good face wrestler by pointing out his match to Triple H on Roadblock.

Was a great great match, much better than Reigns vs Triple H. Also the crowd was pretty pro Triple H at the start but by the end everyone was pro Ambrose showing he won the crowd over with the match. His diving elbow, ropes clothesline, suicide dive, bulldog etc are pretty much big pop face moves.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 11, 2016 10:40 am

zizzle wrote:The is literally the first time i see someone complaining about Ambrose's move set.

Apart from the stunner, how many moves does Austin have?


Austin was the no 1 guy in the company, he didn't need it.

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Post by Casciavit Wed May 11, 2016 10:42 am

Ambrose's moveset gets a lot of complaints for looking too soft, which is true tbh lol.
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