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Post by Firenze Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:39 am

Pool should get int for Keita themselves and maybe see if they can sign Naingol if they sell Coutinho

120m for Cou

Nain 50, Keita 40, VVD 40 IMO

wont happen but still, if they sell Cou they will be expected to get another marquee signing

inb4 Marco 'fit for 2 months' Reus

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Post by Luca Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:43 am

Surely you don't mean Nainggolan of Roma?

He's unsellable

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Post by Firenze Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:51 am

> Roma

> Unsellable

choose one
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Post by Luca Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:52 am

Just signed an extension this summer.

Proposes his transfer out with imaginary fee?

????


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Post by rincon Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:58 am

He came out and committed publicly then extended. Sadly, unsellable.
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Post by Unique Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:11 am

Firenze wrote:Pool should get int for Keita themselves and maybe see if they can sign Naingol if they sell Coutinho

120m for Cou

Nain 50, Keita 40, VVD 40 IMO

wont happen but still, if they sell Cou they will be expected to get another marquee signing

inb4 Marco 'fit for 2 months' Reus
no way Liverpool are stupid enough to pay 40-50 mil for a 29yo. that would be crazy.
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Post by RealGunner Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:44 am

Liverpool reject second Barcelona bid for Philippe Coutinho of £90m
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Post by Kaladin Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:31 am

TwitterPool is blowing up as if they rejected a bid for Pele


If Barca want him, they will get him, just like they did with Suarez, this talk of Coutinho being grateful is laughable, this is football, and he is a millennial, case closed
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:41 am

Pool should not be accepting anything below 120-130 mil
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Post by RealGunner Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:54 am

West Ham to bid £25m for William Carvalho

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Post by RealGunner Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:05 am

Danny Rose wants to leave Tottenham due to the lack of ambition. Chelsea interested. - S*n
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Post by CBarca Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:56 am

Doc wrote:cBarca, jeez, come nah man, I rarely take part in gutter banter, let this one slide.


Permission granted, madrid are trash and so are you imo
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Post by CBarca Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:03 am

RealGunner wrote:Danny Rose wants to leave Tottenham due to the lack of ambition. Chelsea interested. - S*n


Looked up the quotes after you mentioned this. If this is true then it's incredible

Tottenham stuck with the lad through thick and thin even when it looked like he wasn't good enough. Poch came in and emphasized the role him and Walker play and set up a system for the two outside backs to flourish. He recently signed a new contract and it's not long before the season opener Laughing

Horrible professionalism, if it's true. Clearly he sees the cash flow that's going around England at the moment and wants in on it.
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Post by Casciavit Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:10 am

Glad to see Cou potentially moving for big monies. Was one of the OG fanboys of his back when he was at Inter. Proud Proud
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Post by Casciavit Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:43 am

ES wrote:
Casciavit wrote:
ES wrote:Why is no one talking about the fact that he is left footed RW? And Barca want him on the LW?

I mean we constantly talk about the Barca board being stupid but surely if you're going to shell that amount, its going to at least be someone with substantial experience for the position you're filling.


Been seeing you say this lately, can you go into further detail as to why you 'can't' play outside wingers?


I mean, you definitely can, its just that you find more examples of players succeeding going from left foot/left wing ---> to left foot right winger (vice versa as well). Heck jut look at Deu, not a world beater but guy played his best football with us, i think. Forced Barca to buy him. Felipe Anderson as well, hyped to the stratosphere back in his LW days, now a passable RW?
Cuadrado another example, albeit a bit different, he played SS under Montella, thats where he played his best football and had Chelsea capitulate on him. Tomovic was the RB/RM for the most part of that period.

I mean you can definitely find examples opposing me, but i dont know, it just feels normal having that kind of thing. Douglas Costa i think is was a RW, now a left footed LW, not sure how you'd rate his Bayern tenure.

It depends on the characteristics of the players. I'd look at the qualities of my wingers, CF, CM's, and FB's to see what kinda of profile I'd play on the wing.

The strength of outside wingers is that when they run with the ball to the byline and cross the ball, the players in the middle have the ability to charge towards the ball, something that isn't always possible when you're playing a left footed player on the RW and vice-versa.

So if I have a fast winger with good dribbling ability, central midfielders who are good in the box, and a CF who is a good header of the ball, I'd play an outside winger. It also depends on the fullbacks. If the fullbacks are useless out wide, I'd want my wingers to hug the touchline and make my fullbacks play more narrow, that way they have less responsibility and their job is to circulate the ball more than anything else.

If I have athletic fullbacks who can control the wings, and central midfielders who are good on the ball, I'd want my wingers to take more responsibility in the final 3rd. So they'll end up occupying more central spaces, which gets them more involved, hence them often getting more goals.

The second strategy is obviously more common and easier to apply. So those are the kind of players most clubs look for now and I don't blame them.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:14 pm

Casciavit wrote:Some bloke on the Monaco forum is claiming to be an insider and that CR is going to join Monaco. Laughing

Likely that it's BS, but nonetheless enjoy the read.

Spoiler:


I strongly feel that this has not gotten enough attention here.

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Post by Nishankly Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:35 pm

ES wrote:TwitterPool is blowing up as if they rejected a bid for Pele


If Barca want him, they will get him, just like they did with Suarez, this talk of Coutinho being grateful is laughable, this is football, and he is a millennial, case closed


They going to get hurt.

Ultimately Barcelona isn't trying hard enough. Coutinho signed a new 5 year deal in January with no release clause and seems in no hurry to put in a TR.
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Post by Nishankly Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:13 pm

Klopp speaks out

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Post by Sri Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:16 pm

As someone who hasn't been following silly season too closely:

Why is Coutinho Barca's #1 target? Also, he isn't ideal for the LW they want to fill right?

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Post by Nishankly Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:18 pm

Sri wrote:As someone who hasn't been following silly season too closely:

Why is Coutinho Barca's #1 target? Also, he isn't ideal for the LW they want to fill right?


A) He's not.
B) Correct, Which is why they'd want someone like Dembele over him.

They will ultimately need 2 players minimum to be close to what Neymar brought to the team imo

Imagine having 222m in your pocket excluding your budget and approaching star players of selling clubs with offers around 70m. Barcelona are stupid lmfao
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:44 pm

Apparently we are signing Kenedy on loan, meanwhile Brighton are breaking their transfer record to sign someone for 16m.

*bleep* awesome this is, we are scraping the barrel while Brighton are breaking their transfer record because our owner is a massive *bleep*.
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Post by Sri Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:19 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:... we are scraping the barrel ... our owner is a massive *bleep*.


Sorry, but that only makes this all the more rofl :

ES wrote:Benitez on Lucas Perez: “I was talking with Arsene yesterday and I said ‘Listen, we have to talk’ he said ‘Listen, you have some money?"



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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:21 pm

That was a joke btw, Benitez wasn't being serious lol.
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Post by Sri Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:22 pm

... which is why it is hilarious, and not downright sad. Sad

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:31 pm

Agreed Laughing
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Post by Nishankly Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:07 pm

ES wrote:TwitterPool is blowing up as if they rejected a bid for Pele


If Barca want him, they will get him, just like they did with Suarez, this talk of Coutinho being grateful is laughable, this is football, and he is a millennial, case closed


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