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Post by Luca Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:17 pm

ES wrote:Here's what we need to do

switch to 4-3-3

Buy:

1 LW: Carrasco/Sanchez/Draxler

2 CM: Torreira/Seri/ Kovacic

1 backup RW/LW: Mahrez/Rashford/Brahimi/Taison

get Klopp/Conte once they get sacked


You must be drinking that giancarlo juice if you think you have a chance at half of those players. You need to do what Juve did, be aggressive in Italy and get lucky with a Vidal type transfer.

There is talent in Serie A, lots of it these days.

My problem with Lazio is they'll make the CL spots and most likely gut their team by selling players like Sergej and losing De Vrij for free. Sure they'll reinvest but it won't be the same

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Post by Kaladin Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:21 pm

We actually could've gotten Milinkovic Savic

But we spent 30m on Franck 'The not so real Tank' Kessie rofl

Heck we could've gotten Torreira ffs or even Pellegrini

F*cking fraud midfielders scoring goals and cocking heads as if they're good

Any midfielder who scores more than 4 f*cking goals a season isn't a midfielder and can't pass a f*cking ball probably

Even Nocerino didn't do complete vanishing acts like Kessie

Swear this guy is gonna make me a racist if he keeps on playing like this
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Post by Kaladin Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:22 pm

Also, brother Luca that was a joke transfer list
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Post by Firenze Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:27 pm

the only players that are unrealistic are Carrasco, Rashford (future Balon winner) and Sanchez

a lot of Milan's signings from this summer are looking suspect AF rn (and that's being generous) and most of those names from ES were obtainable in the summer IMO

seriously i dont get how these clowns in charge of transfers get their jobs when the average GL user would do infinitely better at team improvements (not Rincon though, he would have your lineup looking like Bologna or Genoa ffs)
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Post by rincon Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:28 pm

The team obviously needs certain player profiles but the players at Milan are also pretty much all underperforming. The gelling takes time and Montella hasn't found the solution.

If you had Allegri or Spalletti there it would look different. Someone like Giampaolo could probably do it too.

Just gotta hold on and wait for Montella to fix it, or sack him and see who you can get.
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Post by Luca Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:31 pm

ES wrote:Also, brother Luca that was a joke transfer list


Forgive me brother ES, after the hype train in the summer- to which I know you were trying your best to derail- I've seen too many serious posts like this

To be honest, there was a lot of money spent on bang average players in my opinion.

Good buys:
Silva (early days but its the right intention, young, rated, talented)
Bonucci (he's been dogshit and his wages are through the roof but again, talented, rated)

Then there's a question mark over every other player
Calhanaglu- first big game, gets a red to miss second big game
Kessie- he just runs, at 30M, its a bit much. We signed Bentancur for 7.5M and he looks 5 times the player
Conti- just can't judge him because of the injury
RicRod- has he done anything but score a penalty randomly? (eat your heart out dybala)
Musacchio- probably hasn't even been worse than Bonucci
Kalinic- not awful, maybe even decent for the bench but to spend on an option like this with a poor 11 out there is a bit misplace of funds, considering Cutrone for example

Anyways, I fault Montella

Lazio has a better 11 than Milan and a much better manager

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Post by Robespierre Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:32 pm

Icardi - Perisic > Stockton Malone imo
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Post by Luca Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:35 pm

Can't take you seriously with that avatar robes

Can we place a one week avatar bet for Juve-Inter in advance? The game isn't until December 9 though ffs

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Post by InterMalia Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:35 pm

@ES if a player is gonna make you racist, I'm pretty sure you're a racist. Laughing

For what's worth a draw would have been fair. I believe D'ambro milked that situation and it didn't warrant a pen. But silly RR to have both arms on a player in the box. I also believe we are hilariously lucky atm. It will catch up and we better accumulate as many points while we go that going for us.
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Post by Kaladin Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:36 pm

Its not racist if im not white hmm
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Post by rincon Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:37 pm

Firenze wrote:(not Rincon though, he would have your lineup looking like Bologna or Genoa ffs)


We both know I would have them looking GOAT ffs.

I kept hyping Sergej for over a year now. Papu Gomez and Keita for the LW instead of having no LW at all. Badelj to actually have someone to pass the ball around instead of Biglia. Schick for striker/RW instead of Kalinic. Freebie Gonzalo Rodriguez to have proper depth at CB.

No bundesflop Calhanoglu.

If they had read my GL posts from the summer Milan would have the best possible 4-3-3 for the cash they spent :coffee:
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Post by Luca Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:38 pm

https://streamable.com/w2lgr

Who is Bonucci marking?

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Post by Firenze Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:45 pm

Bonucci getting exposed at Milan

although it's probably just a lack of confidence and no synergy with new defensive partners

he was GOAT at Juve, shouldn't just collapse like this

think he will eventually come good
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Post by rincon Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:49 pm

That's what I'm saying, they are all underperforming except for Silva and Cutrone.

Its a coaching issue and a lack of synergy issue. After that settles they will be better. Still they need next summer to properly make sense of their squad.

The squads of Juve, Napoli, Inter and Roma are better. They have an advantage over Milan for top 4 even on paper.

Montella just said it now in the postgame interview

"We can’t play with 4-3-3, because we play every three days and only have Suso and Bonaventura on the wings, so they can’t play all the time"
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Post by Kaladin Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:04 pm

Like i've said time and time again, the idiot didn't know how to assemble the team, we were gunning for a 4-3-3 then we go for 3-5-2 after Bonucci, like its retarded, our best player is a RW. He spent 56m on 2 strikers and now complains about having only 2 wingers? he specifically told F&M that he NEEDED Kalinic, as if Kalinic is this unearthly player descending from the heavens. Meanwhile, they legit like-for-like swapped Kucka for Kessie, we have no creative CM that can make those incisive passes or penetrate lines, Bonaventura isn't that, Hakan is a f*cking a fraud if i've ever seen one, Kessie? lol. We haven't had a person in midfield like that since Pirlo lol, we had Ambrosini, Muntari, KPB, Kucka, Bertolacci, etc the list goes on. We need an A+ manager, no more of this bidone Serie A shit, not Giampaolo, not Donadoni, not even Ancelotti, i've sounded my thoughts on why he's a bad pick right now. We need A+++ people who have a history of making top finishes, getting into CL, etc, not this experimental Pep-lite Cruffy Crafa shit. We need results, we need Conte.
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Post by InterMalia Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:08 pm

ES wrote:Its not racist if im not white hmm

Technicalities...
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Post by rincon Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:09 pm

I thought most players were picks from Mirabelli, not Montella right?
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Post by Kaladin Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:14 pm

Montella specifically requested Kalinic and Kessie
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Post by rincon Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:16 pm

Yeah but that doesn't mean its on him to not have wingers. F&M built the squad.

Can't imagine Montella requesting Calhanoglu.
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Post by Kaladin Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:22 pm

Of course its on him, they tailored the transfer market to his needs and how he's gonna play, he even PLEAD F&M to get Bonucci (they share the same agent) which has forced us to go 3-5-1-1 or whatever for some reason. Now its not working out, its not like we've had this problem just now, even last season we've had abysmal depth on the wings, with only Niang and Suso. Not saying F&M are exempt, but that they vested their faith in him, and its shown clear in every interview
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Post by Robespierre Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:31 pm

Handanovic 7
D'ambrosio 6,5
Skriniar 6
Miranda 6
Nagatomo 6
Gagliardini 6,5
Vecino 7
Candreva 7,5
Borja 7
Perisic 7
Icardi 10

Cancelo 5
Eder sv
Santon 10+
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Post by RealGunner Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:33 pm

Vecino 8 imo

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Post by Robespierre Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:57 pm

Ok Kessie , but the real fraud is Bonucci so far.
I can't believe he is that scrub watched so far, he seems that of first year in Juve under Del Neri ( juve fans will remember him )
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Post by Luca Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:00 am

Robespierre wrote:Ok Kessie , but the real fraud is Bonucci so far.
I can't believe he is that scrub watched so far, he seems that of first year in Juve under Del Neri ( juve fans will remember him )


He seems even worse but what's more worrying is it looks like he just doesn't care out there. A real shadow of what he was just one season ago. Shames me to say that we could still benefit from his addition, but I suppose that's true for most teams.

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Post by Robespierre Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:02 am

Luca wrote:
Robespierre wrote:Ok Kessie , but the real fraud is Bonucci so far.
I can't believe he is that scrub watched so far, he seems that of first year in Juve under Del Neri ( juve fans will remember him )


He seems even worse but what's more worrying is it looks like he just doesn't care out there. A real shadow of what he was just one season ago. Shames me to say that we could still benefit from his addition, but I suppose that's true for most teams.


Yes , totally agree
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Post by Warrior Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:36 am

Bonucci's heart is still at Juventus, having decent at best teammates affect his morale.
At Juve he was the maestro of a def 3 that never commit mistakes, it's easier to excel in these conditions. Milan give him enormous responsibilities, and it seems he cannot handle them on his own. In other words, he is not as good as we (he ?) thought he was.

Owes Chiellini his career imo
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