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Post by Luca on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:34 pm

@Lucifer wrote:They also have been winning league for years.


Don't worry, its a shorter list to mention teams that Milan actually manages to beat rather than loses to.

Smashed rivals Chievo a couple weeks back if you missed it
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Warrior on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:42 pm

Just looked at the highlights on Hoofoot while they are still available... less embarassing than i thought at first. Bad day at the office that's all.

1st goal is absolutely poor. Sczezny, Asamoah and Bernardeschi was the worst defending combo i've ever seen from Juve. Fun fact is... 10 more minutes and we'd win 3-4, or at least draw.

Sampdoria has no mental to kill the game, we kept running and trying till the very end.
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Kaladin on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:44 pm

@Warrior wrote:
@Kaladin wrote:Do not

Dont

Dont you EVER mention that we 'lost to Sampdoria' ever again

Juve losing to them for years rofl

JJ rofl



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Juve since 1997 rofl

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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by rincon on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:46 pm

@Warrior wrote:Just looked at the highlights on Hoofoot while they are still available... less embarassing than i thought at first. Bad day at the office that's all.

1st goal is absolutely poor. Sczezny, Asamoah and Bernardeschi was the worst defending combo i've ever seen from Juve. Fun fact is... 10 more minutes and we'd win 3-4, or at least draw.

Sampdoria has no mental to kill the game, we kept running and trying till the very end.


Sums up the game perfectly
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Kaladin on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:46 pm

Max Allegri: "If Sami Khedira hadn't stood there complaining, we wouldn't have conceded the third goal"

Oof

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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Robespierre on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:47 pm

Agreed with Tom , Juve are paying a high price for their mercato very bad
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Firenze on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:48 pm

Samp now 7 points clear of AC Beijing :bow: what a thrilling europa league qualification battle
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Warrior on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:50 pm

Khedira should *bleep* off in AEK Athens/Rijeka... that's his level

Also what's laughable with Juve since 1997 ?
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Luca on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:53 pm

@Warrior wrote:Khedira should *bleep* off in AEK Athens/Rijeka... that's his level

Also what's laughable with Juve since 1997 ?


He's a Milan fan, he had to go back to the last time his club was relevant. The only thing they can talk about is historical CL wins when their club has. They've basically become Liverpool
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by rincon on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:53 pm

@Kaladin wrote:Max Allegri: "If Sami Khedira hadn't stood there complaining, we wouldn't have conceded the third goal"

Oof


Allegri is gonna go hard on the players after this loss.

We always win strongly after a loss, RIP Barca :coffee:
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Warrior on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:53 pm

@Robespierre wrote:Agreed with Tom , Juve are paying a high price for their mercato very bad



Selling Bonucci (the Juve version of)
Not buying a PROPER cm (Marchisio never fit and Pjanic is A-, rest of the midfield B- at best)

those are Marotta's only mistakes, Sczenzscy might add himself to this list soon enough
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Post by Kaladin on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:57 pm

Juve should've gotten a CM instead of Berna, Costa can play CAM as i've seen him play their before in division 1, Dybala and Higgy upfront, Pjanice, Tolisso and Marchisio. Would've been spicy

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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Warrior on Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:59 pm

@Luca wrote:
@Warrior wrote:Khedira should *bleep* off in AEK Athens/Rijeka... that's his level

Also what's laughable with Juve since 1997 ?


He's a Milan fan, he had to go back to the last time his club was relevant. The only thing they can talk about is historical CL wins when their club has. They've basically become Liverpool


Here is me being serious...

CL is a dream for us, something we might never achieve again. Maybe i'll be dead and eating plants by the roots and we still haven't won. People laugh at us for this and it's ok.

Juventus is the queen of Italy, not the queen of Europe. Being relevant in Champions League combined with a league title is sufficient, that's our yearly target. Anything below that is a disaster.

While Milan NEEDS to perform in Champions League otherwise they are the equivalent of Roma with more money. 2 championships won this millenium.
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by RealGunner on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:01 pm

Has shitck played much at all this season?
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Luca on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:02 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Has shitck played much at all this season?
@RealGunner wrote:Has shitck played much at all this season?


He's played 16 minutes

Anyways, these are nonsensical reactions after Juventus' second loss only
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Post by Warrior on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:03 pm

Douglas Costa is clueless, he's a 1v1 player and that's it. Cannot cross to save his life. Overall Bernardeschi is much, much better.

I've said it before
2017: first year of transition (taking out the trash)
2018: second year of transition (complete the new core of the team)
2019: third year of transition (replace Higuain mostly)

So this year all Juve fans expected to have problems, it's true even if no one believe us.
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Post by rincon on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:05 pm

People laughed when we said that we wouldn't win this season, now we will be third after Inter wins tonight :coffee:
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Post by Kaladin on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:06 pm

How do you 'complete the new core of the team' when you have Chiellini, Buffon, Barzagli, Marchisio, Khedira, Higuain, Lichsteiner all pushing on the wrong end?

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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Robespierre on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:08 pm

@rincon wrote:People laughed when we said that we wouldn't win this season, now we will be third after Inter wins tonight :coffee:


It's just 13th matchday
Reminds me about Serie A '15-'16
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Doc on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:09 pm

@Luca wrote:He's played 16 minutes

Anyways, these are nonsensical reactions after Juventus' second loss only

The reactions are quite commonplace though. This is standard procedure whenever a big team loses. The upside to all this, just 4 points behind a team (Napoli) that isn't known to be hardened Serie A winners.

Jjuve ain't 9 points (Man Utd) or 10 points (Real Madrid) behind their closest (and hated) rivals so it's still quite manageable. Jjuve did lose to Sampdoria though and by lose, they got beaten properly.

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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Robespierre on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:11 pm

@Warrior wrote:
@Robespierre wrote:Agreed with Tom , Juve are  paying a high price for their mercato very bad



Selling Bonucci (the Juve version of)
Not buying a PROPER cm (Marchisio never fit and Pjanic is A-, rest of the midfield B- at best)

those are Marotta's only mistakes, Sczenzscy might add himself to this list soon enough


"only"
or imagine to sign De Sciglio
Then 50 for Douglas Costa ffs a he looks like a  poor version of Cuadrado
Bernardeschi is not a difference maker atm  ,though if I expect to play his  good matches in future
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Re: The 2017/18 Calcio Thread: Part 2

Post by Warrior on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:13 pm

MDS wasn't legit because he grew up in Milang's toxic atmosphere. Juve will turn him into decent player.

Douglas (40m) was also a mistake, it's true. I dislike him.
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Post by Luca on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:19 pm

@Kaladin wrote:How do you 'complete the new core of the team' when you have Chiellini, Buffon, Barzagli, Marchisio, Khedira, Higuain, Lichsteiner all pushing on the wrong end?


Well, quite simply: Barzagli, Marchisio, Lichtsteiner have had their roles greatly reduced this season. Lichtsteiner is not even with the CL squad for the second year in a row. Marchisio's injuries have seen him take a large step back over the last two seasons, despite looking very good when he does play.

Buffon is in his last season and behind him is Szczesny who was a starter and a top one in Italy last season compared with Neto who we had last season who was neither.

Rugani has seen his role grow and has played more minutes than anyone in Italy. Caldara is set to join us next season as it stands so this area is seemingly covered. Chiellini will still play beyond this season for sure.

Higuain is will be 30 this season, he's as good as ever. In fact, he may even be better than last season, he's quietly putting together a great individual season. He hit 24 in Serie A last season and 32 in 55. So far he has 8 in 12 in Serie A and 14 in 22 overall, including 6 goals in his last 5 matches. He's playing for that World Cup spot for sure.

We've also brought in younger players. MDS, Bernardeschi, Douglas Costa, Bentancur. That's 4 players with the oldest being 26? Pretty good. Not amazing but it's the start only.

But its unfair to say it is a transitional season. We've replaced key figures in each of the last several seasons and we didn't speak about it similarly, so I will not start now. The team is definitely still built for now, with shades of tomorrow being considered, as all top teams should be built.
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Post by Kaladin on Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:33 pm

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Post by Robespierre on Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:40 pm

Mediaset Premium is fraud mate
Except for Eleonora Boi and Giorgia Rossi
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