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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:47 pm

Firenze wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Is Koscielyn having his worst season in years?


yes

still a top 3 CB though @RealGunner

Well, certainly better Stones, Kompany and Otamendi, or van Dijk for that matter

Smaldini, Rojo, JOnes Bailly >>>>>>>> tho


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Post by Firenze Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:47 pm

3-2

Palace putting the pressure on

Danny Murphy praises Bellerin then corrects himself and says he's been utterly shit all night :bow:
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Post by RealGunner Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:48 pm

This is awkward
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:48 pm

*bleep*

I forgot my new identity there

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Post by RealGunner Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:52 pm

FT

Only 6 points behind 2nd now ffs

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:54 pm

#wishere is a shit counter attacking player tbh

slow in the head and takes too many touches

Apart from that he's a GOAT of course
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Post by CBarca Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:03 pm

Wilshere with his first good game since vs Barca in like 2011
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Post by Red Alert Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:30 am

RealGunner wrote:We have a shit defence. We are basically Liverpool minus 50% of the goals lol.


Apart from Lemar, who are you looking to sign to replace Sanchez and Ozil in the final third? With those two looking to leave, Wenger's future in the air, and an ageing / overrated defence I wonder if Kroenke will start to invest...
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Post by iftikhar Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:46 am

Firenze wrote:lol basically

your midfield is also disgusting and IMO worse than theirs

coupled with the fact Sanchez is clearly not all that interested, I think you'll sign Lemar this summer even if he snubbed you, can't see Loserpool going back for him now, even if he's disappointing this season  he will be a massive upgrade IMO, Lemar + Fekir this summer IMO
Seriously???
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Post by urbaNRoots Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:04 am

Henderson
Goretzka Keita

>>>>>

We need a few midfield signings for sure, on top of a new GK, new defense and new attack after Ozil and Sanchez are gone. Easy peasy.
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Post by Nishankly Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:51 am

Any midfield with Henderson gonna absolutely dominate the heat map behind the half line.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:21 pm

Koscielny is an absolute fraud and has been for years who got by on scoring goals and RG being starved of decent defending.

Glad Hans has finally seen the light, there's a reason he was playing for Lorient at 27 ffs.

Only people who disagree are those who joined RGs cult of no personality tbh.
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Post by Firenze Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:02 pm

iftikhar wrote:
Firenze wrote:lol basically

your midfield is also disgusting and IMO worse than theirs

coupled with the fact Sanchez is clearly not all that interested, I think you'll sign Lemar this summer even if he snubbed you, can't see Loserpool going back for him now, even if he's disappointing this season  he will be a massive upgrade IMO, Lemar + Fekir this summer IMO
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Xhaka, ElNeny, Wilshere and Ramsay who average a good game every 15 between them, while yours average a good game every 10

far better
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Post by Firenze Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:04 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Koscielny is an absolute fraud and has been for years who got by on scoring goals and RG being starved of decent defending.

Glad Hans has finally seen the light, there's a reason he was playing for Lorient at 27 ffs.

Only people who disagree are those who joined RGs cult of no personality tbh.


never understood the hype, always assumed RG was exaggerating

he's never even had a prime 6 month run like Smalldini or Vladimir Kozlov for example

good CB on his best day, never great
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Post by Firenze Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:49 pm

Loserpool Leicester likely the best game of the bunch tomorrow. Another relatively meh day of action. inb4 we drop pts to Southampton.
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Post by Unique Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:15 am

Firenze wrote:Loserpool Leicester likely the best game of the bunch tomorrow. Another relatively meh day of action. inb4 we drop pts to Southampton.
in 3 weeks you will be behind Liverpool and jose will be crying about having only spent £350mil eco smile
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Post by Red Alert Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:53 am

urbaNRoots wrote:
Henderson
Goretzka Keita

>>>>>

We need a few midfield signings for sure, on top of a new GK, new defense and new attack after Ozil and Sanchez are gone. Easy peasy.


Red Alert wrote:
RealGunner wrote:We have a shit defence. We are basically Liverpool minus 50% of the goals lol.


Apart from Lemar, who are you looking to sign to replace Sanchez and Ozil in the final third? With those two looking to leave, Wenger's future in the air, and an ageing / overrated defence I wonder if Kroenke will start to invest...


Same question urB.

Also on Lemar, do you still think he's a serious target?

I know you had a 90m bid or something agreed but I don't think that was a serious bid. I mean, it was reported you only offered that much 30mins or something before the window closed when Lemar was playing a national game???

Also that 90m bid was only after offered after you accepted a 60m bid for Sanchez, now that he will be leaving on a free do you think you can afford him as well as other targets for key positions?
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:19 am

Apart from Lemar we have been heavily linked with both Fekir and Mahrez.

Sanchez and Ozil leaving for free definitely hurts our chances of making big money signings considering the stinginess of the club even though it shouldn’t. We prepared for this last summer when we made a PROFIT.

As for Lemar I think he is definitely a serious target, Wenger said we will try again. It was a serious bid, the Monaco president confirmed it. Monaco just didn’t accept it after already selling Mbappe, Bernardo Silva, Mendy etc...
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:23 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Koscielny is an absolute fraud and has been for years who got by on scoring goals and RG being starved of decent defending.

Glad Hans has finally seen the light, there's a reason he was playing for Lorient at 27 ffs.

Only people who disagree are those who joined RGs cult of no personality tbh.


Stahp, he was one of the best CB’s in the league in his prime.

How many years did you have to wait until you said this smh Laughing
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Post by Firenze Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:35 pm

Pretty much every outlet was claiming Lemar rejected you like twice and wanted Loserpool. Scenes if he joins you now.

Fekir should be your main target this summer. I hope we sign him but there's a 0.5% chance of that happening. He will be a top 3 player if he comes to the prem IMO. Will be the Salah of next season.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:39 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Koscielny is an absolute fraud and has been for years who got by on scoring goals and RG being starved of decent defending.

Glad Hans has finally seen the light, there's a reason he was playing for Lorient at 27 ffs.

Only people who disagree are those who joined RGs cult of no personality tbh.


Stahp, he was one of the best CB’s in the league in his prime.

How many years did you have to wait until you said this smh Laughing


Eh? do you purposefully ignore my posts or something? i have been saying he's a fraud for years.

French Vermealen, Aggressive CB who makes last ditch tackles and constantly out of position when he makes those last ditch tackles, Mertesacker carried him which coincided nicely with Mertesacker aging btw.

These are things i have been saying for years, he's overrated as shit always has been.
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Post by Kaladin Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:42 pm

Vermaelen was actually good if he didn't get injured as much. Koscielny is a great CB, not WC but a very good one
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:48 pm

That's a myth and quite frankly history revisionism tbh, nobody cares now but at the time Vermealen made a lot of defensive mistakes and Arsenal were worse defensively than they are now.

Their defensive mistakes only started to get ironed out when they signed Mertesacker but before that him scoring the odd goal hide the fact he was a terrible defender.

I will be slightly fair to him though, it can't have helped Alex Song thinking he was an AM playing DM lmao.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:23 pm

Stop it.
Koscielny has been a top CB for many years now. At times holding Arsenal's defense together all on his own.
Without him they used to concede like 5 goals in 10 minutes against us in a CL knockout game.
That alone tells you the Herculean performances the guy kept delivering week in week out,
He has a comparably poor season but that happens to everyone.

Even the top 2 CBs in the world, Boateng and Hummels, have had weaker phases in recent times
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Post by Luca Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:44 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Stop it.
Koscielny has been a top CB for many years now. At times holding Arsenal's defense together all on his own.
Without him they used to concede like 5 goals in 10 minutes against us in a CL knockout game.
That alone tells you the Herculean performances the guy kept delivering week in week out,
He has a comparably poor season but that happens to everyone.

Even the top 2 CBs in the world, Boateng and Hummels, have had weaker phases in recent times


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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:50 pm

Benatia couldn't even get past a crocked Badstuber or a repurposed Alaba, never mind MArtinez or Boateng.
That he's a standout performer in your team of Sturaris, Khediras and Quadrados is nothing to be proud of
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