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Post by Firenze Wed May 30, 2018 1:22 pm

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Real Madrid star Cristiano Ronaldo has been asked to pay a total of €28m to avoid a criminal trial for tax evasion, say reports in the Spanish press.

Facing possible 8 years if it goes to trail and he is found guilty. Rumor that he is upset that Madrid won't pay for it through a signing bonus on a new contract/extension. This would explain his mood after the CL Final.


wow

La Liga players and their tax evasion ffs

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Post by Unique Wed May 30, 2018 1:22 pm

Firenze wrote:He looked good when I saw him play, admittedly that's a small sample size. Needs to show it in the PL, but I think he will fit in well. Good price if it's accepted too in today's market, when you have Lazio wanting 100m for SMS ffs.
i think lazio only asked 100mil when manure showed interest. they know you can be extorted very easily
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 30, 2018 1:23 pm

Luca wrote:Why do you say that mole? Because he lacks the physicality for playing CM at City?

I think he's a very good fit in a Pep scheme. His passing ability is his strongest quality after all

I figured this deal stalled more so because of Ancelotti than Jorginho, I still expect him to move though


Nah because I think Pep is gonna play him as a DM lol.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 30, 2018 1:24 pm

nasir6371 wrote:
Real Madrid star Cristiano Ronaldo has been asked to pay a total of €28m to avoid a criminal trial for tax evasion, say reports in the Spanish press.

Facing possible 8 years if it goes to trail and he is found guilty. Rumor that he is upset that Madrid won't pay for it through a signing bonus on a new contract/extension. This would explain his mood after the CL Final.
it's part of the things he wants Madrid to cover in his new contract. From what I heard he wants close to 40 millions net and in signing bonus he wants us to cover the fees for his fraudulent asd.

He can fck off
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Post by Firenze Wed May 30, 2018 1:25 pm

Unique wrote:
Firenze wrote:He looked good when I saw him play, admittedly that's a small sample size. Needs to show it in the PL, but I think he will fit in well. Good price if it's accepted too in today's market, when you have Lazio wanting 100m for SMS ffs.
i think lazio only asked 100mil when manure showed interest. they know you can be extorted very easily


Don't want to hear that from you. We paid 90m for Pogba which was about his value at the time. SMS isn't a 100m player.

Maybe they thought you were sniffing around Mr. 80M on this scrub CB, 40M on this scrub CM. OUT.

We never get extorted.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 30, 2018 1:26 pm

Firenze wrote:
nasir6371 wrote:
Real Madrid star Cristiano Ronaldo has been asked to pay a total of €28m to avoid a criminal trial for tax evasion, say reports in the Spanish press.

Facing possible 8 years if it goes to trail and he is found guilty. Rumor that he is upset that Madrid won't pay for it through a signing bonus on a new contract/extension. This would explain his mood after the CL Final.


wow

La Liga players and their tax evasion ffs
something about the tax code in Spain, the sun, and a colonial mindset makes everyone feel like they are in South America and think they can get away with tax frauds
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Post by nasir6371 Wed May 30, 2018 1:26 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Be interested to see him at City tbh, seems like a weird signing when it comes to fit.

He's obviously a very good player though, that's immediately obvious.


Only concern is if he can do it at a faster pace league than Serie A. And if he can put a proper tackle and those tactical fouls that Fernandinho always gets away with. Not looking too impressive with only 75 Pace and 68 Physical Neutral
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Post by Unique Wed May 30, 2018 1:27 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
nasir6371 wrote:
Real Madrid star Cristiano Ronaldo has been asked to pay a total of €28m to avoid a criminal trial for tax evasion, say reports in the Spanish press.

Facing possible 8 years if it goes to trail and he is found guilty. Rumor that he is upset that Madrid won't pay for it through a signing bonus on a new contract/extension. This would explain his mood after the CL Final.
it's part of the things he wants Madrid to cover in his new contract. From what I heard he wants close to 40 millions net and in signing bonus he wants us to cover the fees for his fraudulent asd.

He can fck off
you know madrid will cave in and pay him so its not worth worrying about it.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 30, 2018 1:28 pm

He's a CM for Napoli, like expecting Silva to play DM lol.

This is what I meant by fit.
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Post by Firenze Wed May 30, 2018 1:28 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
nasir6371 wrote:
Real Madrid star Cristiano Ronaldo has been asked to pay a total of €28m to avoid a criminal trial for tax evasion, say reports in the Spanish press.

Facing possible 8 years if it goes to trail and he is found guilty. Rumor that he is upset that Madrid won't pay for it through a signing bonus on a new contract/extension. This would explain his mood after the CL Final.
it's part of the things he wants Madrid to cover in his new contract. From what I heard he wants close to 40 millions net and in signing bonus he wants us to cover the fees for his fraudulent asd.

He can fck off


Club legend or not I would hope Perez hits him with the

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ludicrous demands from a man that's past their best and closer to 35 than 30 ffs
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 30, 2018 1:28 pm

Firenze wrote:
Unique wrote:
Firenze wrote:He looked good when I saw him play, admittedly that's a small sample size. Needs to show it in the PL, but I think he will fit in well. Good price if it's accepted too in today's market, when you have Lazio wanting 100m for SMS ffs.
i think lazio only asked 100mil when manure showed interest. they know you can be extorted very easily


Don't want to hear that from you. We paid 90m for Pogba which was about his value at the time. SMS isn't a 100m player.

Maybe they thought you were sniffing around Mr. 80M on this scrub CB, 40M on this scrub CM. OUT.

We never get extorted.
such a lie you paid 120 mil for that fraud Pogba, 2 years later he is for sale withoit achieving anything relevant for United lmao
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 30, 2018 1:30 pm

Unique wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:
nasir6371 wrote:

Facing possible 8 years if it goes to trail and he is found guilty. Rumor that he is upset that Madrid won't pay for it through a signing bonus on a new contract/extension. This would explain his mood after the CL Final.
it's part of the things he wants Madrid to cover in his new contract. From what I heard he wants close to 40 millions net and in signing bonus he wants us to cover the fees for his fraudulent asd.

He can fck off
you know madrid will cave in and pay him so its not worth worrying about it.
we will see, Perez has so far refused, we offered him an incentive laden contract but he wants guaranteed money, that's why he was always going to say he wants to leave like last summer.

But he is 33, and he has no leverage on us. So using the fans and the players is all he has
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Post by Firenze Wed May 30, 2018 1:30 pm

Pretty sure the official number was 90m pounds. Just because Pogba hasn't lived up to the pricetag (he never could) doesn't really mean we were extorted..he was the hottest player available at the time and every team wanted him.
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Post by Unique Wed May 30, 2018 1:31 pm

Firenze wrote:
Unique wrote:
Firenze wrote:He looked good when I saw him play, admittedly that's a small sample size. Needs to show it in the PL, but I think he will fit in well. Good price if it's accepted too in today's market, when you have Lazio wanting 100m for SMS ffs.
i think lazio only asked 100mil when manure showed interest. they know you can be extorted very easily


Don't want to hear that from you. We paid 90m for Pogba which was about his value at the time. SMS isn't a 100m player.

Maybe they thought you were sniffing around Mr. 80M on this scrub CB, 40M on this scrub CM. OUT.

We never get extorted.
dude you lose more money on players than a compulsive gambler does on cards ffs. you over pay for every player.
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Post by rincon Wed May 30, 2018 1:32 pm

Does Pep even play a DM? He just plays Fernandinho in the centre. That's Jorginho's position. Regista for Napoli in front of the defense. Pep is the best fit for him for sure and the playing/coaching style is why Jorginho (through his agent) has been pushing for City.

I doubt Pep is trying to sign Jorginho but expecting Matic. He is the most "Pep's Barca" type of player outside of his old team.
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Post by Firenze Wed May 30, 2018 1:33 pm

Unique wrote:
Firenze wrote:
Unique wrote:
i think lazio only asked 100mil when manure showed interest. they know you can be extorted very easily


Don't want to hear that from you. We paid 90m for Pogba which was about his value at the time. SMS isn't a 100m player.

Maybe they thought you were sniffing around Mr. 80M on this scrub CB, 40M on this scrub CM. OUT.

We never get extorted.
dude you lose more money on players than a compulsive gambler does on cards ffs. you over pay for every player.


80m on VVD. 40M on Oxlade Chambermaid. 70m on Keita.

Feck right off.
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Post by Unique Wed May 30, 2018 1:34 pm

Firenze wrote:Pretty sure the official number was 90m pounds. Just because Pogba hasn't lived up to the pricetag (he never could) doesn't really mean we were extorted..he was the hottest player available at the time and every team wanted him.
600k per week for sanchez. 500k per week on ibra who played 1 game all season. 120mil on jogba who would hardly make 50mil now. shaw 30mil now you cant give him away. 40mil on lindof the list goes on. tell me the last time man u got a real bargain.
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Post by Firenze Wed May 30, 2018 1:35 pm

Perfect example of Unique maths. Stay in school kids.
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Post by nasir6371 Wed May 30, 2018 1:35 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He's a CM for Napoli, like expecting Silva to play DM lol.

This is what I meant by fit.


I could see Pep going more defensive in Away CL knockout games. With a midfield 3 of Kdb-Fernandinho-Jorginho a lot of grit and workrate hmm

But he'll get away with playing Jorginho as a DM in the PL. Since there will be like 16 teams in the league that will sit deep and allow us to have 70%+ possession.
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Post by Firenze Wed May 30, 2018 1:36 pm

is Gundogan finished at City? or will just remain a rotation player. Wonder if he would be happy with it, it's what he deserves so I'd imagine so.
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Post by Myesyats Wed May 30, 2018 1:37 pm

rincon wrote:Does Pep even play a DM? He just plays Fernandinho in the centre. That's Jorginho's position. Regista for Napoli in front of the defense. Pep is the best fit for him for sure and the playing/coaching style is why Jorginho (through his agent) has been pushing for City.

I doubt Pep is trying to sign Jorginho but expecting Matic. He is the most "Pep's Barca" type of player outside of his old team.

True, nobody is tied to one particular position in a Pep team. Jorginho would fit at City like a dream.
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Post by Luca Wed May 30, 2018 1:37 pm

rincon wrote:Does Pep even play a DM? He just plays Fernandinho in the centre. That's Jorginho's position. Regista for Napoli in front of the defense. Pep is the best fit for him for sure and the playing/coaching style is why Jorginho (through his agent) has been pushing for City.

I doubt Pep is trying to sign Jorginho but expecting Matic. He is the most "Pep's Barca" type of player outside of his old team.


I think the bigger issue is who’s the b2b Allan type meant to help clean up for Jorginho? I think it’s quite easy to fit in someone like Jorginho, as long as you can have a similar synergy in the midfield

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed May 30, 2018 1:38 pm

He's a very Pep type of player that much is true but there's only one player with the ball skills he wants and not lack the discipline and positional sense required to protect a back 4.

That's Busquets, can't see Jorginho preventing the counter attacks which meant CL exit this year.
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Post by Unique Wed May 30, 2018 1:38 pm

Firenze wrote:
Unique wrote:
Firenze wrote:


Don't want to hear that from you. We paid 90m for Pogba which was about his value at the time. SMS isn't a 100m player.

Maybe they thought you were sniffing around Mr. 80M on this scrub CB, 40M on this scrub CM. OUT.

We never get extorted.
dude you lose more money on players than a compulsive gambler does on cards ffs. you over pay for every player.


80m on VVD. 40M on Oxlade Chambermaid. 70m on Keita.

Feck right off.
you could argue that vvd at 75mil and ox at 35mil is too much money but at least they are improving the team. you waste money on players that are now sitting on the bench or have been sold at a loss.
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Post by Firenze Wed May 30, 2018 1:42 pm

Depth signings you numpty. And most big clubs in the PL sell at a loss. And?

the only major flop we've had that's depreciated in value by a decent amount in the last 5 years is Luke Shaw. A player I always see you saying is still good. lol. We bought him for 30m and will get about 15 back for him.

Soton extorted you more than we've ever been. 80m for VVD, which was my original point. He's worth maybe half of that realistically.
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Post by Luca Wed May 30, 2018 1:46 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:He's a very Pep type of player that much is true but there's only one player with the ball skills he wants and not lack the discipline and positional sense required to protect a back 4.

That's Busquets, can't see Jorginho preventing the counter attacks which meant CL exit this year.


That I agree with, but the other 90% of matches, it should be a great fit and fun to see

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