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Post by M99 on Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:00 am

Thoughts on your new signings? (Kluivert, Pastore, Olsen etc)

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Post by McLewis on Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:15 am

Kluivert - Is on a similar trajectory as Under before him. I think we'll see a lot of him after the winter transfer window.

Pastore - Far too injury-prone for my liking, but when fit and in the mood, he's a credit to the midfield, especially on the creative end.

Olsen - Rock solid so far. The derision he experienced when we signed him is wholly unfounded. He's not Alisson and will never be Alisson and that's really ok. He's been just fine back there for us and that's down to learning Italian at a near lightning pace.

Marcano - I want to believe there is more to him than what I'm seeing, because he does not look comfortable at all in that back 4. That performance against Bologna was dire. With Fazio out of form, this is his chance to really stake a claim on a spot alongside Kostas. He's whiffing at that chance right now.

Coric - Has not played much at all so far as that's down to being so far down the pecking order in midfield. It was always going to be hard to play his way into the team, even with Strootman and Nainggolan gone. He's immensely talented so a loan is really needed for him at this point.

Nzonzi - Quickly establishing himself as undroppable as part of the pivot with DDR. Not at all surprising as he was signed specifically stabilize the midfield. He's doing just that.

Cristante - I see why we signed him and I see the potential of what he likely will bring. He's not quite there yet and I think that might be more down to EDF's tinkering than the player himself. Would love to see what he can do behind Dzeko, but Lo. Pellegrini's in good form right now. Gonna take more time to figure out just where best to play him in this new setup.

Santon - Looks like a he has a new lease on life. This is exactly what I believed would happen with him. I said it when we signed him to much derision that we've developed a knack for revitalizing careers of players once believe to be beyond redemption. This is my favorite story arc of the season so far. Very happy for him. Looked very impressive against Lazio and Empoli.

Zaniolo - Not on his bandwagon yet, but he has shown glimpses of what he can be. I consider him a similar player to Pellegrini, just much more raw. Looking forward to seeing more of him as the season wears on.

Mirante - Hasn't been needed at all with Olsen finding his feet well. This is exactly what should've been expected when he was signed.

Fuzato - Same as Mirante. Will likely get more time with the primavera or on loan.

Feels like a new signing -

Luca Pellegrini - This kid is special and has looked every bit of the player we thought he could be. He's a Raiola player though so I don't think he's ours to keep beyond the next couple of seasons if he continues on like this.

Rick Karsdorp - Clearly a talented player and his return was supposed to really lift us in the RB department and allow Florenzi to return either to the wing or midfield, but a falling out with EDF and unexpected form of Santon have relegated him to 3rd choice RB. Now he's staring at a return to Feyenoord, which may be good for all parties at this point.

Patrik Schick - Has yet to really find his confidence in front of goal for us, a problem that many a striker who have come before him have struggled with. The man in front of him in the pecking order, Dzeko, knows all about that. I'm still not on his bandwagon either, but I do believe that once he does finally get that much needed goal, we're going to see some excellent form from him. He seems to be doing it with decent regularity at international level. He's just unfortunate to be behind the most important player in the squad right now.

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Post by McLewis on Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:46 pm

As brutal as that SPAL result was, it was deserved. It was a classic Roma performance against a relegation side. We approach these games not with confidence, but with arrogance. As if we're entitled to the result without putting in the requisite effort. It's maddening. I don't think that's an EDF problem. That's a player problem.

I'm glad he's still our coach. He has a way with this team that I have not seen with previous coaches. That and the replacement options frankly suck. The talent is there in both him and the team and I believe he's found the right formation and setup. He's just got to find a way to keep these guys motivated in-match. That shouldn't be a problem that this team has, yet it is.

The hill that I'll die on is always giving a coach the chance to right the ship until he gives up on his players and quits or they give up on him and force him out. Neither scenario has happened so he should be allowed to continue.

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Post by McLewis on Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:37 pm

Good win against CSKA. Proves that our heads were already in this game when we were losing to SPAL.

Dzeko in the CL is a completely different player from Dzeko in Serie A these days.

The biggest reason why I think EDF should stay? Our excellent home record in the CL. We remain unbeaten at the Olimpico with him in charge. That's unprecedented success for a team that lost 7-1 to Bayern at home just a few short years ago.

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Post by rincon on Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:53 pm

Napoli, Fiore and CSKA, all away, then home with Sampdoria. Let's see how focused Roma can be with this schedule.
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Post by McLewis on Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:26 pm

I see 4 points out of 9 in those Serie A fixture. I think we get the win against Samp. I don't see it happening against Napoli or Fiorentina.

CSKA away always a tough one. We've beaten them away before though so it's not uncharted territory.

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Post by McLewis on Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:58 am

Shareholder slams 'useless' Roma
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Roma investor Fabio Palma has slammed James Pallotta and Monchi for not attending the club’s shareholder meeting and ‘buying useless, lazy players’.

The pair were notably absent from Friday’s assembly to approve Roma’s budget and in an explosive segment by Palma, the shareholder accused Pallotta’s [pictured] board of not performing well enough and Monchi for wasting money on Javier Pastore and Patrik Schick in particular, while hitting out at the Giallorossi’s policy on young players.

“For the umpteenth time, our dear President has missed the opportunity to come here,” he said.

“Not because his presence invigorates the team but because at least it can bring a little respect to us who represent the Giallorossi fans.

“Football doesn’t exist without us fans and it’s something that’s being forgotten. Directors and players forget that they exist because we exist.

“Without us, the players may not have such good lives. We’re commenting on a budget that’s perhaps too triumphalist.

“I expected better because of last year’s performance. We’re reliant on one result: either we qualify for the Champions League or the doors of tragedy open.

“We made €205m in revenue. Is that not correct? When it’s convenient for you, you veer away from the question.

“The question is always this: we sell our best players, but then we buy other players and frankly I wonder: if a player isn’t good enough for PSG, are they for Roma?

“What’s our policy on young players, since we either sign them for a high price or buy them back?

“Not only do we invest in youth, but then we turn them over to other teams: we don’t get anything out of those players.

“Instead, we sign players for high prices, even those who are older, without results. And if we don’t qualify for the Champions League this season, what happens? Do we sell everyone?

“It would be difficult to get rid of players like Pastore, Nzonzi or Marcano if that happened. We’d have to sell young players instead.

“We’re not Manchester City, we don’t have their revenues. We’ve taken on skilled sporting directors to discover champions.

“I’d have liked to see Monchi here to explain some of his choices. The only thing these players can do is say they’d like to go to Manchester City or Real Madrid.

“We signed Schick, whom everyone described as a champion. We haven’t seen it. Instead, we’ve seen a player who has no desire or even enthusiasm. And we want to build a Roma with these players!

“Why do we give away youth products like Pellegrini and take them back for €10m? Maybe here in Trigoria, there are characters and coaches who are no good.

“Evidently here, we talk a lot about technique and not tactics. We just buy useless, lazy players.”

WOOF. That's quite a hot take.

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Re: The Official Roma Thread

Post by iftikhar on Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:05 am

It pains me to see Roma (the board/management) has taken the same (disastrous) path of Pre-FSG Liverpool or Newcastle. Sad
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Post by McLewis on Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:37 pm

Ehh I'm not too worried at this point. Palma's got skin in the game so I understand his frustration.

Can't help, but think he's spot on about both Pastore and Schick though.

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Re: The Official Roma Thread

Post by McLewis on Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:33 am

No DDR today against Fiorentina so that's a huge blow. Young starlet Luca Pellegrini is out too.

With no DDR, EDF is probably reverting back to a 4-3-3, with Nzonzi deep and Cristante/Lorenzo playing further up. Could be either Florenzi or Under out on the right or Florenzi/Santon at RB.

Would love to see EDF try a 4-3-1-2 though and play one of Cristante or Pellegrini behind Dzeko and Schick with.

Got a feeling we're in for a rough match today. La Viola aren't playing around this season. They look really good.

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Post by McLewis on Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:09 pm

Struggling to consider that point at Fiorentina today as earned.

Finishing was woeful.

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