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Post by adun101 on Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:36 am

@Luca wrote:Benatia’s was incidental to him being a dumbass heading the ball down onto his own hand.


And that's why it should have been a penalty, incompetence shouldn't be an excuse. If you can't kick or head a ball without it hitting you in the arms, then don't do it or get called for a foul. Same with tackling, if you can't do it without injuring other players, then don't do it or gtf off the pitch. See van Dijk on Mertens. Intention should be irrelevant.

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Post by adun101 on Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:46 am

@Robespierre wrote:What an humiliation given to us and impressive impact by Zaniolo for Roma

Typical Italian talent hyped at the beginning as Chiesa,El Shaarawy, etc but I expect to fall soon
Surely I don't care at all


I was referring to Zaniolo humiliating the two Sassuolo defenders, I never said anything about Inter. Maybe, if you weren't so defensive, I would believe that you don't care at all.

As for Chiesa, he has no vision and no composure, Zaniolo is nothing like him. El Shaarawy failed, but not  because of a lack of talent.
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Post by Robespierre on Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:52 am

@adun101 wrote:
@Robespierre wrote:What an humiliation given to us and impressive impact by Zaniolo for Roma

Typical Italian talent hyped at the beginning as Chiesa,El Shaarawy, etc but I expect to fall soon
Surely I don't care at all


I was referring to Zaniolo humiliating the two Sassuolo defenders, I never said anything about Inter. Maybe, if you weren't so defensive, I would believe that you don't care at all.

As for Chiesa, he has no vision and no composure, Zaniolo is nothing like him. El Shaarawy failed, but not  because of a lack of talent.


Why Zaniolo regret for Inter is a constant narrative in Italy and I am tired to hear It

Anyway Sassuolo defence Is same defence that conceded 6 goals at home just 2 days ago Laughing


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Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:59 am

Just read up on this.

So Inter gave him away as part of the Naingolan deal?

Hope he becomes a world beater.

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Post by Robespierre on Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:27 pm

He has same face as Jovetic , be quiet .
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Post by Robespierre on Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:45 pm

Meanwhile Meite, Torino player, booed at Olimpico
But noone cares because he Is just Meite and because there is not other team to cry because they need to justify a loss
Olimpico will be not banned as San Siro
No messagges of solidarity by other players (ffs I've read even Momo Salah to do It , the football player who didn't want Jews on his team Laughing) for Meite as such happened for Koulibaly
Children and stepchildren
Typical of Italy . Racism Is a serious matter but It Is vilified so
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Post by McLewis on Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:06 pm

@Robespierre wrote:I expected Manolas in place of Olsen tbh .

Couldn't pick him (or any defender who has played a lot this season ) as we have been horrid defensively this season. Olsen, on the other hand, has saved us on several occasions.

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Post by Sina on Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:12 pm

@Sina wrote:havent watched much of Serie A in last 3-4 weeks
what are the best matches i have missed?

watching Sassuolo vs Atalanta
Great 1st half by Atalanta,Neroverdi could hardly get out of their half
Barrow big future

Got Empoli vs Samp and Ata-Juve on my list too

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Post by Robespierre on Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:04 am

Well
@Robespierre wrote:
Figc acts badly against racism
If you punish a whole stadium / sector, you don't weaken racism, but einforce
It becomes leverage by racists
I get mad for It because : you've institued nominal tickets, many membership cards, so many telecameras within Curva , Digos files anyone, yet you continue to punish community and not those idiots. Even if you could. But It Is the most simple thing .

But giving points penalties would be the worst thing.
Moreover you should not condider them as " most passionate fans" , but ultras in 2018 are modern gangsters.
They earn so , forestalment etc
Mafia , Camorra , Ndrangheta are within Italian curvas. Everything Is certified (not suppositions) and clubs know this. And in fact they tend to not make enemy their ultras. As you know, Agnelli was banned because of contacts with some Juve fans tied to Ndrangheta
So when I' ve read by Breva " South have problems because of mafia etc" I've laughed. South has many problems , but Mafia/Ndragheta have been a greater matter. You can't reason anymore as that criminal organization that threatens farms. Mafia Ndragheta have evolved. They are a National matter organized on highest levels. Italian curvas are an important Mafia source of income.
In conclusion, point penalties are useless and wrong.
You can't change sport results because of few idiots, and idiots 'd not stop. It 'd become further source of blackmail by Curve against their clubs.


Okay.... That Is the main narrative for most numbers of Italian Curva

But I was reading the profile of Curva Nord leader , arrested for the battle against Napoli ultras (when 1 Varese ultras Is died ) and It Is the opposite you'd image after It

A sort of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, It 's shocking to think a person can change so much when he must manage a Curva

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In the life :

Came from a good family ✓
Graduated from Polytechnic ✓
Important designer ✓
(And he hadn't crminal record before It)

At stadium :
Leader of Ultras ✓
Banned for a year after Inter Juve ✓
Arrested after ambush against Napoli ultras ✓


Mah....I don't know what to say
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Post by Robespierre on Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:17 pm

@Sina wrote:
@Sina wrote:havent watched much of Serie A in last 3-4 weeks
what are the best matches i have missed?

watching Sassuolo vs Atalanta
Great 1st half by Atalanta,Neroverdi could hardly get out of their half
Barrow big future

Got Empoli vs Samp and Ata-Juve on my list too


Not watched often other teams , but Juventus - Inter 1-0 and Inter - Napoli 1-0 are interesting matches even if just a goal IMO
Same for Atalanta Lazio 1-0
Atalanta Juve surely
Yes Atalanta matches are always worthy to be watched

Roma Genoa 3-2 Is influenced from Olsen disasterclass but Genoa could tie till last minute , so I could say this too
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Post by Sina on Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:47 am

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Post by Sina on Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:39 pm

Duvan 27% and Quag 24% conversion rate so far this season
which looks unsustainable

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Post by rincon on Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:49 pm

It isn't. Gasp and Giampaolo are getting the absolute most from their players. Quags looks like he finally achieved consistency with age.

Zapata imo has a ceiling around this level. A return to Samp or max a move to Lazio should be best for him.
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Post by Sina on Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:41 pm

Atalanta's record when scoring first goal of the match( 7 wins,0 draw,1 lost )[only vs Empoli]

Atalanta when conceding first  ( 1 wins,3 draw,6 lost )
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Inter's  record when scoring first goal of the match( 12 wins,3 draw,0 lost )

Inter when conceding first ( 0 wins,0 draw,4 lost )

I guess similar pattern for many teams

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Post by Sina on Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:02 pm

Hamed Traore from Empoli is interesting talent
Quick feet,Great energy,plays with great intensity and can help win the ball back ,relatively strong despite his height,plays some nice passes on the break too
Potential Champions league level
move to Samp level club next would be good

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Post by rincon on Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:36 pm

Coppa Italia

Novara 1-4 Lazio

Samp losing 0-2 to Milan in extra time. Samp could have won this game, great performance by Reina. Cutrone came on in the extra time and in 10 minutes finished 2 crosses in pretty fantastic fashion.

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Post by rincon on Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:26 pm

Costa might have just killed Helander
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Post by Robespierre on Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:14 pm

Ok, Zaniolo is officially the new thing of Italian football after this great goal. Just goals missed after his good performances and they are coming. We'll see if he 'll last or not but he seems good.

Today Inter vs Sassuolo.
Sassuolo is more than a bogey team for Inter.

In last 8 matches, Inter've lost for 7 times against Sassuolo.
Unreal stats. Not even Juve
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Post by rincon on Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:56 pm

Pellegrini maybe has become Roma's best player this season.

Looking forward to Sassuolo beating inter tonight Molenation
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Post by McLewis on Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:44 pm

Zaniolo just going from strength to strength. Pellegrini seems primed to be our next captain though after Florenzi given that he's Roman.

We're still pretty sloppy overall, as evidenced by giving away 2 goals when 2-0 up, but appear to recovering enough of that lost confidence to conjure up winning goals again. Had this been the Fall, this would've ended 2-2 probably.

Wonderful have SES back and it looks like Schick's head doctor may have fixed him too as he looked very positive and involved all game, setting up the winner for SES.

Best news? We might actually have a RB on our hands with Rick Karsdorp. He looked pretty good overall most of the game. Seems like whatever issues he had with EDF may be getting resolved. Might end up having a future here after all.

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Post by iftikhar on Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:18 am

@McLewis wrote:Zaniolo just going from strength to strength. Pellegrini seems primed to be our next captain though after Florenzi given that he's Roman.

We're still pretty sloppy overall, as evidenced by giving away 2 goals when 2-0 up, but appear to recovering enough of that lost confidence to conjure up winning goals again. Had this been the Fall, this would've ended 2-2 probably.

Wonderful have SES back and it looks like Schick's head doctor may have fixed him too as he looked very positive and involved all game, setting up the winner for SES.

Best news? We might actually have a RB on our hands with Rick Karsdorp. He looked pretty good overall most of the game. Seems like whatever issues he had with EDF may be getting resolved. Might end up having a future here after all.
Given our recent trend, it's more likely that they be sold over next 2-3 seasons. :facepalm: :brickwall: 2018/19 Calcio Saga - Page 30 2276801876
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Post by McLewis on Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:36 am

I highly doubt that actually. Foreign talent like Schick, Manolas, and Under are ahead of these guys in terms of sales. We may be a selling club, but we rarely sell homegrown talent unless they explicitly want to go (see Romagnoli and Bertolacci) so I don't see any of Florenzi, El Shaarawy, Lo. Pellegrini, Lu. Pellegrini, Zaniolo or Cristante leaving. They are expected to form the spine of the team for foreseeable years, especially given that Monchi has expressed a desire to make the team more Italian as well. It would take an Alisson-level offer to even get Monchi to a negotiating table for even one of these players if they all fully realize their potential, I believe.

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Post by Robespierre on Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:21 pm

Terrible performance and I was forced to listen the match to the radio.

we were even close to lose it if Skriniar didn't save this on 91'


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Post by rincon on Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:23 pm

Zapata scoring in the 7th game in a row for the 0-2.

This is really a Serie A vs B match, somehow the odds for Atalanta were at 1.44.
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Post by rincon on Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:58 pm

Zapata hatrick, nice third goal
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Post by rincon on Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:23 pm

Simeone really looks like a fraud, doing the bare minimum in front of goal
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