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Post by Doc Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:52 pm

You know, Marcelo really needs to actually play some defense once in a while. No harm in that tbh.

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Post by Perucho21 Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:57 pm

We are playing very very well
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:58 pm

Marcelo shouldn't have started this game. I don't know why MBappe moved wings because with his speed, Marcelo would've been left for dead

Anyways we've played great. Kroos in particular just oozing confidence. The defence has been a tiny bit shaky but we aren't playing Eibar. We are bound to give up a shot or two but sometimes it's been alittle too eaay to find Icardi
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Post by Perucho21 Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:59 pm

I like the constant long shots attempting to exploit Navas weakness

But damn, Navas has kept PSG in the game
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Post by sportsczy Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:56 pm

Great game.

We need to get Mbappe. 'nuf said.
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Post by Adit Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:57 pm

Idiot varane cost us the match.


We toyed with them but the defensive mistakes were amaturish.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:58 pm

sportsczy wrote:Great game.

We need to get Mbappe. 'nuf said.

You must be kidding, right?
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Post by Perucho21 Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:00 pm

Varane mistakes cost us PSG gained confidence and Madrid froze. Hes 100 percent to blame.

This needs to be fixed if we are going to compete. We should have won this one
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Post by The Madrid One Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:07 pm

Hopefully Hazard is ok. An exhibition to be remembered.

We need Vinicius, Militao, and Jovic to enter into the scene.
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:09 pm

Federico Valverde vs PSG

76 minutes
46 passes
89% pass accuracy
2 key passes
3 dribbles won
3 tackles won
3 interceptions
1 aerial won

Absolutely top-class player already with world-class potential. Bernabeu's standing ovation well deserved.

Unbelievable talent in midfield we have
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Post by The Madrid One Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:13 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Federico Valverde vs PSG

76 minutes
46 passes
89% pass accuracy
2 key passes
3 dribbles won
3 tackles won
3 interceptions
1 aerial won

Absolutely top-class player already with world-class potential. Bernabeu's standing ovation well deserved.

Unbelievable talent in midfield we have
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Post by Doc Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:18 pm

We totally don't need Mbappe. I wouldn't mind him at all but we do not need him. What we really need is Zidane to tell Varane stop being a fking pleb of a defender and/or start using Militao, you know, our 40 million+ defender.

Other than that, really great football mixed with dog shit defending.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:19 pm

Zidane needs to take a long hard look in the mirror because he made terrible subs today.

Also Bale came on and you didn't see him until his shot. Then he will go complain that he's singled out when he doesn't give the fans a reason not to.

The Modric-Casemiro-Kroos midfield couldn't even last 10 mins against a big team. We play that trident against Barca and it's curtains for us

Modric needs to leave because ZZ will always pick him and it'll be a mistake 8/10 times

We should play the same line up vs Barca but with Mendy in for Marcelo
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:20 pm

Varane was also the one who screwed over Lope the most out of all our players. Will never be the best CB in the world sorry. Far too many mistakes in him
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Post by sportsczy Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:22 pm

Valverde was on a yellow.  That's why he was taken out.  It's a pretty standard decision to take out players on yellows at the end of games where you're already qualified.  We need everyone for the elimination round games.

The way he plays, Valverded could easily get another yellow or even a red (1-2 game suspension).

Also, up 2-0, that shouldn't even matter.
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Post by Thimmy Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:24 pm

Doc wrote:We totally don't need Mbappe. I wouldn't mind him at all but we do not need him. What we really need is Zidane to tell Varane stop being a fking pleb of a defender and/or start using Militao, you know, our 40 million+ defender.

Other than that, really great football mixed with dog shit defending.


You’re probably right in saying that we don’t need him right now, but he’s 21 and widely considered to be the most established and experienced performer in his age group. His price will increase as he improves with age, so our interest makes sense.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:24 pm

With his replacement being Modric of course it matters
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Post by Doc Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:30 pm

Well, Modric contract is expiring this season so I think he'll be going regardless.

Yeah, Valverde being on a yellow is not much of an excuse as I've seen Zidane keep many players on yellows for the whole match. The great man has certain subs he makes and doesn't actually budge from what is an automated action eg. Lucas Vasquez coming on around the 70th minute.

Like I said, there are way more positives than negatives to take from this but at the same time, Varane really needs to get his shit together and Zidane needs to stop with the KCM, no longer viable in big games or even slightly big games.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:48 pm

So you're up 2-0 at the 80th minute... you're saving Valverde from getting suspended and you bring in Modric (not some 18 year old nobody)... how can you criticize that? If it was at the 65th minute, sure. But 80th and up 2-0 at the Bernabeu.

PSG aren't winning anything anyhow and we weren't going to catch them for 1st place even with a win as they would have needed to lose in Paris to Galatassaray for that to happen.

This was more a gala game than anything with any real impact imo.

We did well. Isco looked better. Courtois was a problem... and btw, i think defenders not trusting Courtois is a cause for some of these mistakes. Varane hesitated because you never know if Courtois is actually going to come out. Not an excuse to make that bonehead play... but hesitation comes from uncertainty. If Navas was in there, that uncertainty doesn't exist imo.
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Post by Doc Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:05 pm

Fair comment about uncertainty but Pepe would have swung that ball into Row fking Z regardless of the keeper. Varane is way too experienced to be making such indecisions and if it were Ramos, well, the Bernabeu booed the lil shit over the weekend for boneheaded defending so that should say all that needs to be said.

Great game though, probably the best match I've seen from Madrid post Ronaldo. Maybe.


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Post by The Madrid One Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:05 pm

Hindsight isn't 20/20, i can understand Fede being taken off, but i would have placed Bale on the right and would have actually included Vinicius in the line up and slotted him at left after the Hazard injury. I also hope Zidane is more weary of the dangers that are implicit to Marcelo playing when we play tough games.

I've been busy so i haven't caught up as well as i could with what's going on but i find it worrying that Vinicius, Militao, and Jovic are still all nonfactors.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:16 pm

Doc wrote:Fair comment about uncertainty but Pepe would have swung that ball into Row fking Z regardless of the keeper. Varane is way too experienced to be making such indecisions and if it were Ramos, well, the Bernabeu booed the lil shit over the weekend for boneheaded defending so that should say all that needs to be said.

Great game though, probably the best match I've seen from Madrid post Ronaldo. Maybe.

Thing with Pepe... until he was in his 30s, he would kick at the ball but was just as likely to almost kill the keeper or the opposing player by completely missing the ball.

Just a different type of defending.

Varane made a mistake plain and simple. He was trying to tip it away from Mbappe but it ended up hitting Courtois and bouncing right to Mbappe.
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Post by titosantill Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:16 pm

i see nothing wrong with the subs. we wet the bed defensively, that's just what happened, but i liked our attitude and happy with benzema for putting in the work in this game. the way we approached the game was very good, but the defense is unpredictable. oh and rodrygo had a moment of madness where he should have laid a pass but instead did whatever it is he did
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:54 am

Great game, great gameplan, Zidane created a nice surprise for Tuchel and cod have swept PSG in first half.

Winter mercato: please sign another box to box, if not Pogba some other lad that will make those runs
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Post by chad4401 Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:10 am

Meh draw great performance, still needs to be more direct, create more clear cut chances can't just rack up shot attempts from half chances and long distance shooting.

bale needs to start, there needs to be another goal scorer on the pitch that him, those goals were soft as hell, don't know why varane would make such unnecessary mistake, tibo making meal of some saves made him nervous I guess, the team is solid, the defence needs to focus more and instill confidence in each other, Ramos needs to step up as leader in these moments and calm things down, the team still can get better not a big deal.

Another couple mids that won't weaken the midfield would help, modric has to rotate with kroos only, jovic needs to get minutes soon.
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:39 am

Agreed. Modric should only rotate with Kroos. We take out one of the other two and we become significantly weaker
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