The Choo Choo Train: Aurelien Tchouameni

So if new midfield is Tchouameñi for Casemiro and Camavinga replacing Kroos, does than then not present a problem / dilemma for Valverde. He’s no match for Modric and his best position is where Kroos currently plays.

I anticipate we will see rotations next season, so
Is likely they will experiment with Camavinga on right and Valverde on left?

Lord knows how we line up next season

Logically Valverde is ahead of both Cama and Tcho having waited patiently for 4 seasons to get that starting spot. Tcho on the other hand costs an arm and a leg and would not have come if he wasn't guaranteed playing time with the WC coming up. Cama will probably have his playingtime reduced while Valverde and Tcho get rotated. He has his age on his side.

Neither Valverde or Tcho are particularly good at giving the final pass ala Modric/Kroos therefore playing Cama against PTB teams will be essential if Modric is unavailable.

This is a WC year so that will go in our favour. I am sure we will rotate both Casemiro and Modric in order to not exhaust them. Kroos doesn't have that problem so he likely stays.

I know Valverde has worked on the right in some really big games but firstly the only reason we are doing that is because we have probably the slowest midfield in Europe and to help Carvajal and secondly because that RW has been up for grabs for the past 5 seasons. Rodrygo while he helps Carvajal hasn't really made that position his own. I really hope he takes that next step next season because he's is a much better goalscorer than Vini and is great with passing in tight spaces but he is found lacking in every other department.

All I know is with Alaba as LB and this new midfield trio we will finally be able to play predominantly in the opposition half with 3 midfielders not scared to get into the box considering they are fast enough to get back into position.

Finally we won't be outfought and outrun by every PL team we play (especially Chelsea)

Hala, you keep referencing Managing Madrid podcast . They are kids and I say not reliable.

There is no waiting time order, it’s based on talent. It’s already been stated multiple times that both Camavinga and Tchouameñi are already good enough to replace Kross and Casemiro. So that supposedly puts Valverde as the 6th.

Also bear in, this is a year of transitioning and all 6 will play plenty. Modric for example will likely be like Iniesta was like in his last year. Playing a lot less, but playing and likely starting in all important games.

Those kids are making issues out of nothing. If loyalty was a factor, Raul would still be playing! Remember Flo is not kind when it comes to DM.

futbol_bill wrote:Hala, you keep referencing Managing Madrid podcast . They are kids and I say not reliable.

There is no waiting time order, it’s based on talent. It’s already been stated multiple times that both Camavinga and Tchouameñi are already good enough to replace Kross and Casemiro. So that supposedly puts Valverde as the 6th.

Also bear in, this is a year of transitioning and all 6 will play plenty. Modric for example will likely be like Iniesta was like in his last year. Playing a lot less, but playing and likely starting in all important games.

Those kids are making issues out of nothing. If loyalty was a factor, Raul would still be playing! Remember Flo is not kind when it comes to DM.

i don't listen to managing Madrid

Valverde was already on his way to replacing Modric a couple of seasons ago then injuries derailed him. I can assure you he's the first one to enter the teamsheet to replace Kroos/Modric as he should because he's a damn great player.

My point Hala wasn’t to put Valverde down. My point was those kids that you quoted are making an issue when there doesn’t exist one. Right now we have 3 aging starts that are the starters and we have 3 replacements that are capable of taking the starting job now. We are going to see rotation and by end of the full transformation will be complete. The point about Valverde playing RW so much depends on who and when they get for RW.

futbol_bill wrote:My point Hala wasn’t to put Valverde down. My point was those kids that you quoted are making an issue when there doesn’t exist one. Right now we have 3 aging starts that are the starters and we have 3 replacements that are capable of taking the starting job now. We are going to see rotation and by end of the full transformation will be complete. The point about Valverde playing RW so much depends on who and when they get for RW.

Valverde only started playing RW because we were being ripped apart in CL. Asensio started both home and away against QSG. Since those games Valverde became our starting RW, not because he was such a good RW but because we needed his legs and workrate to match the PL teams. Before those games Valverde was mainly coming off the bench to replace Kroos/Modric.

Perucho21 wrote:Casemiro is 30. Hardly old for a DM. And at the moment Tchouameni isn't better than Casemiro in that position in my opinion

Tcho can play as an 8 also right. Maybe we see Cama as Casemiro's replacement and Tcho as a CM b2b. Camavinga did mention he prefers playing just infront of the defence.

Thankfully he won't be the one doing the playmaking for us