Azzurri fans will be happy to hear this

http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2011/08/26/2637379/former-world-cup-referee-byron-moreno-faces-20-year-prison


Karma ...

20 YEARS !?!?!??!?!?!?!?!? PUT HIM IN JAIL FOR LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on, Moreno was an honest referee who played golf. Italy needed a handicap.

wigglesworth wrote:Come on, Moreno was an honest referee who played golf. Italy needed a handicap.

Wiggles, that World Cup in 2002 was ours ! We had the best squad in the tournament ! He screwed it all for us ! To bad though, England apperently were better

Azzuri fans? More like football fans. That guy is a cancer.

sciacca wrote:

wigglesworth wrote:Come on, Moreno was an honest referee who played golf. Italy needed a handicap.

Wiggles, that World Cup in 2002 was ours ! We had the best squad in the tournament ! He screwed it all for us ! To bad though, England apperently were better

Of course England were better. They are England. I see you have seen the light too.

wigglesworth wrote:

sciacca wrote:

wigglesworth wrote:Come on, Moreno was an honest referee who played golf. Italy needed a handicap.

Wiggles, that World Cup in 2002 was ours ! We had the best squad in the tournament ! He screwed it all for us ! To bad though, England apperently were better

Of course England were better. They are England. I see you have seen the light too.

The light? Of course I do ! Wiggles you are God ! Hai sempre Ragione... !

I'm happy I never saw that game .... even the recap hurts me !

Cruel to rejoice, but I do. He signed with his blood at that wc.

Blatter and Platini co to follow?

The 2002 team of Italy is highly overrated in this forum. Out of the group stages they only won one game - against Ecuador - they tied against Mexico, who went on to earn the first place, and lost against Croatia. Now, I was 12 when these groups were played so I can't really say I recall much from it, but it doesn't sound like the track record of would-be-champions.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:The 2002 team of Italy is highly overrated in this forum. Out of the group stages they only won one game - against Ecuador - they tied against Mexico, who went on to earn the first place, and lost against Croatia. Now, I was 12 when these groups were played so I can't really say I recall much from it, but it doesn't sound like the track record of would-be-champions.

Of course, Italy is always overrated. Italy sucks, they cheated in all the 4 World Cups they have won. England is the best, they would have won 10 World Cups if it were not for the cheating of other teams.

You'll have a hard time proving I was saying England is awesome

Stop going after straw men

BarrileteCosmico wrote:You'll have a hard time proving I was saying England is awesome

Stop going after straw men

No, but you are claiming Italy sucks. I agree. We are a terrible footballing nation. All of Italy's achievements have been through luck or cheating, right. Clubs or national team. I have been converted. England is far better and so is Spain, Netherlands, Germany in Europe and of course, Brazil, Argentina Uruguay and every other country is better. Right.

wigglesworth wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:You'll have a hard time proving I was saying England is awesome

Stop going after straw men

No, but you are claiming Italy sucks. I agree. We are a terrible footballing nation. All of Italy's achievements have been through luck or cheating, right. Clubs or national team. I have been converted. England is far better and so is Spain, Netherlands, Germany in Europe and of course, Brazil, Argentina Uruguay and every other country is better. Right.

Still at the straw men. Overrated doesn't mean that "Italy sucks", it means that some people here have a tendency to glorify the past. Nor was I speaking about the entirety of Italy's achievements, only about that of their 2002 team.

This thread has turned Wiggles:

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t6878-should-the-epl-get-5-cl-spots

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

wigglesworth wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:You'll have a hard time proving I was saying England is awesome

Stop going after straw men

No, but you are claiming Italy sucks. I agree. We are a terrible footballing nation. All of Italy's achievements have been through luck or cheating, right. Clubs or national team. I have been converted. England is far better and so is Spain, Netherlands, Germany in Europe and of course, Brazil, Argentina Uruguay and every other country is better. Right.

Still at the straw men. Overrated doesn't mean that "Italy sucks", it means that some people here have a tendency to glorify the past. Nor was I speaking about the entirety of Italy's achievements, only about that of their 2002 team.

The 2002 Italian team was far better than the 2006 team that won the World Cup. But of course the 2006 team was lucky and cheated to win the World Cup.

wigglesworth wrote:The 2002 Italian team was far better than the 2006 team that won the World Cup. But of course the 2006 team was lucky and cheated to win the World Cup.

It seems to me, speaking strictly about their results and not the names on the shirt, that their collective game didn't raise to the occasion. The team was already drawing Mexico and losing to Croatia before Byron ****ed them. Clearly, he was not the only problem and he is to some extent a scapegoat.

Again, I'd like to reiterate that I was 12 at the time and I don't remember much from the world cup, but the results seem to indicate that bad reffing was not the only thing keeping Italy from fulfilling their potential.

50% now Wiggles?

This isn't going to end well.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

wigglesworth wrote:The 2002 Italian team was far better than the 2006 team that won the World Cup. But of course the 2006 team was lucky and cheated to win the World Cup.

It seems to me, speaking strictly about their results and not the names on the shirt, that their collective game didn't raise to the occasion. The team was already drawing Mexico and losing to Croatia before Byron ****ed them. Clearly, he was not the only problem and he is to some extent a scapegoat.

Hmmm, I guess you have little historical perspective. What Italy does in the preliminary rounds has nothing to do with the final result. Just do a little research. The 1982 campaign, for example.

Point taken - Italy does have that track record.

But how often is it the case for the champion to do poorly in the group stages? The last time the World Champion was not 1st in their group was, yes, you guessed it, 1982.

come on, you guys are wishing jail upon someone?

ali8775 wrote:come on, you guys are wishing jail upon someone?

yes ...

ali8775 wrote:come on, you guys are wishing jail upon someone?

You don't believe jail is an appropriate place for a drug smuggler to be?

If he's guilty, hell yes I hope he goes to jail.

6 ks? Damn, man.

Jail is little for what he deserves. And not for that Italy thing, but as a scum drug smuggler.