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Post by cyberman on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:30 pm

top class national sterotyping there
too bad best wasnt english so english bias cant be in play..but great biogtry non the less
ii bet you lovvvve international football

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:32 pm



'nuff said :coffee:

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Post by Ganso on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:33 pm

We know he isnt English,but he is a United legend so he is a football legend for the english
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Post by cyberman on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:40 pm

international football is for has been football powerhouses that pretend to be relevent
brazil are average, theyve shown nothing. but because of their nationality and desperation, ganso / neymar etc are eleveated to this stupid level without doing anyhting of note v reasonable competition.
argentina bottle everything just like england but theyll be seen as major contenders, well get threads about how theyve improved etc only to fall against the same type of team...every time. but hey, everyone lives in the international delusion world for a while..so theyre all happy.
bar spain because of barca, every other international match isnt about finding the best teams, its finding the team thats slightly less ill prepared than other international teams.
club football is the elite, you work as a team, well drilled and are a well oiled machine. you could be from a poor country [ football wise] ala etoo and through sheer talent become a generational great. he wouldnt have the chance internationally

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Post by cyberman on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:44 pm

ganso, utd have the biggest support of any sporting side on the planet. more supporters tha argentina, brazil etc have
making out that being a utd legend is cocooned to the english is ridiculous

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Post by rwo power on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:48 pm

@Cyberman
You can try to talk down International football as much as you want, but in the end more people watch and enjoy international football than club football. From what I read, even the women's football world cup 2011 had a far bigger TV audience here in Germany than the CL matches (and that's why German TV stations decided to show all the women's NT matches now - people actually love to watch NT matches here). And that's because it was a World Cup and international games. Stuff like that draws far more viewers than everything else.

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Post by Sushi Master on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:50 pm

@cyberman wrote:international football is for has been football powerhouses that pretend to be relevent
And for the underdogs to become relevant.
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Post by BeautifulGame on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:53 pm

Kenny Dalglish was on similar level probably even better than Best considering how much Liverpool dominated in that era unlike United of 60's but that doesnt make him as big a legend as Pele or Maradona or even Cruyuff in football history.

As long as u dont perform in world cup (whatever the reason) u wont be considered among legends like Pele or Maradona in football history.Yes they are club legends but if they dont do it in world cup they will only remain just that.

The only difference from old times to now is due to media coveraqge even if u flop in world cup u will still be well known among fans all over the world but still in 20 or 30 years they wont be remembered among the likes of Pele's Maradona's and Cryuff's of the world which is a fact.


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Post by Ganso on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:55 pm

are you kidding me?so united has more supporters than the entire population of Brazil and Argentina?your an idiot,im not even going to continue this discussion.
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Post by Sushi Master on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:00 pm

@Ganso wrote:are you kidding me?so united has more supporters than the entire population of Brazil, Argentina and other South American underdogs?your an idiot,im not even going to continue this discussion.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:03 pm

Cyber is bitter that his national team is coached by an Italian, and that Rooney is suspeneded :coffee:

It's alright Cyber, we understand your dimzie on England being poor in the international level.

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Post by cyberman on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:03 pm

man utd have an estimated fanbase of 330m people ffs, asia loves us
brazil have a population of...192m

its simple maths, but dewey eyed sentimental nonsense can seemingly colour it in your eyes ganso..

330m > 192m isnt delusion, its mathamatical fact

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Post by Ganso on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:05 pm

330M Laughing
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:07 pm

@Ganso wrote:330M Laughing

Juve 300m Cool

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Post by BeautifulGame on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:07 pm

There are more Brazilian fans in India than United fans.But United fans are surveyed and counted for marketing purposes unlike Brazilian fans.Thats just an example.

Just because they are not surveyed like club fans doesnt mean United have more fan base

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Post by Sushi Master on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:08 pm

Brazil gets all the support of South America (except Argentina) when they go for titles.

Nevermind the bandwaggoneering Brazil always gets due to its entertaining play and famous players.

The World Cup is watched by nearly a billion people. People who never watch football in their lives watch the World Cup.

Sorry dude, but the delusion is on you.
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Post by Ganso on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:10 pm

@Sushi Master wrote:Brazil gets all the support of South America (except Argentina) when they go for titles.

Nevermind the bandwaggoneering Brazil always gets due to its entertaining play and famous players.

The World Cup is watched by nearly a billion people. People who never watch football in their lives watch the World Cup.

Sorry dude, but the delusion is on you.
this is what im talking about....

besides i truly want to know how many of those 330M actually follow Man U.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:11 pm

Those people who watch the World Cup, and have no idea about it, piss me off.

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Post by Sushi Master on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:13 pm

@Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Those people who watch the World Cup, and have no idea about it, piss me off.
It's why legends are made in the World Cup. A lot of people who don't know squat about football see X player perform really well and that's the name that's remembered through the ages.
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Post by cyberman on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:18 pm

surveyed beautiful game? who the fcuk surveys international fan bases?
utd have 330m fans..official. more tham madrid, more than barca..were the most popular team playing in the most popular league in the world
an indian supporting brazil for 2/3 games every 4 years means jack shit, thats why international football means jack shit
and if people are gonna argue about brazils non brazilian fanbase, then thatt too meakes international football worthless...wheres the national pride?
beautiful game..ganso said utd dont have as many fans as brazils population..ive pointed out that the y have..almost double. who the hell brought in india?

hey sushi master, thats what ive always said. utd need more bandwagon fans ffs..if youre going to big up 2nd team syndrome, do you realise how many fans there are of other teams in lower countries who have utd as their 2nd team?
we are officially the biggest supported side in alllllll of sports..every study shows this.
brazils days of band wagon jumpers are over..

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Post by cyberman on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:19 pm

and im giving brazil the full 192m fans lol, no way do 100% of brazilians follow brazil

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Post by Ganso on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:22 pm

Im sure 330M people were successfully surveyed..... Rolling Eyes

and yes,the entire population of Brazil + a lot fo the rest of the world follow Brazil,there is no need to make a survey on that because its common sense.

And lets say that 330M people are united fans,lets see how many of those people actually follow united like any normal fan
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Post by BeautifulGame on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:27 pm

@cyberman wrote:surveyed beautiful game? who the fcuk surveys international fan bases?
utd have 330m fans..official. more tham madrid, more than barca..were the most popular team playing in the most popular league in the world
an indian supporting brazil for 2/3 games every 4 years means jack shit, thats why international football means jack shit
and if people are gonna argue about brazils non brazilian fanbase, then thatt too meakes international football worthless...wheres the national pride?
beautiful game..ganso said utd dont have as many fans as brazils population..ive pointed out that the y have..almost double. who the hell brought in india?

hey sushi master, thats what ive always said. utd need more bandwagon fans ffs..if youre going to big up 2nd team syndrome, do you realise how many fans there are of other teams in lower countries who have utd as their 2nd team?
we are officially the biggest supported side in alllllll of sports..every study shows this.
brazils days of band wagon jumpers are over..

Common sense perhaps? Dont worry u just continue with ur delusion.

And i just clearly said India as an example because or ur comment that Asia loves United.And i am pretty sure India is in Asia.

As for Brazil supporting bandwagoners actually they are lot more loyal than club bandwagon fans.Those who support Brazil and Argentina have been doing it for nearly 20-30 years unless United fans who are already jumping onto Barca bandwagon

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Post by cyberman on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:28 pm

hilarious
330m fans are getting the "how many games do they watch" bs while brazilan bandwagon jumpers is this amazing thing because they watch you every 4 years..how many games do they watch? whats the world wide copa america viewing figures?
want me to post the epl world wide viewing figures?

its ok kid..BRAZIL FOR 2014!!! GANSO!!! NEYYYMAARRR!!!

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Post by Arquitecto on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:29 pm

I don't think Cyber realizes the amount of gloryhunting there actually is in Asia and how 1 in 15 Indian fans actually know more then 5 players in the sqaud for United.

Brazil is simply the international support for India/Asia while United is the common club support.

Difference? Usually if not 95% of the time, most of the asians don't have a clue on whats actually going on with both.

I know some of the asians here will know what I'm talking about.

United made the gloryhunting term popular.

Hence, the thousands of United fans jumping ship to Barca in 2008

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Post by cyberman on Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:36 pm

so everything that fits in your opinion is common sense?
im using cold, hard numbers.

baseless assumptions are not common sense

lol where have utd lost glory hunting fans? barca are not a loved team.
our reveune stream is through the roof..rising ridiculous percentages every year. we lost cr7 but gained a chicharito
were signing brand spanking new sponsorship deals in asia and worldwide..our brand has grown 100%

but thats ok..baseless assumptions for the win..look at arq post..quoting figures out of his ass
how is that deemed relevent enough to post in a discussion lol?

who cares about india..i dont. india is not a template for the world

fact..utd are the biggest sports brand in asia

the point of this was utd do have a larger fanbase than the population of brazil..mpove the goalposts all you want
the fact you lot are quoting band wagon jumping international fans proves how out of date all that dewey eyes nonsense is.
brazil havent been good enough to band wagon jump for 10 years now..no-one band wagon

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