Torres is not deserving of NT football anymore

Borjito deserves to be there I agree. Thiago is going to be at the Olympics anyway. May as well let Borjito have that spot for the Euro's.

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I forgot about Borja.

Borja please stop it ffs its not even funny anymore......

Sure he's a good possession keeper but thats where it ends.........

Iniesta, Xavi, Thiago, Silva and hell even Busquets are better than him at that.

You sound as stupid as the calls for Arteta a few years ago without even considering who is infront of him.

The only debateable calls for me in that squad is Negredo, Iraola and Alba.

While Iraola and Alba deserve thier call ups there and people in thier same position in Azpilicueta and Enrique are arguably just as deserving.

But unlike Negredo, iam very happy with thier call ups.

Aslong as 2 of Iraola, Alba, Azpilicueta and Enrique go to the Euro's i will be happy.

Borja Valero obviously deserves to be in the squad, he has played more regularly and consistently than Thiago this season. But for Callejon not to be there leaves me perplexed. In the majority of times he has been given a chance this season, he has made a meaningful contribution. The strikes department isn't even that important, to be honest, as Spain are the only national team in the world who don't rely on a lone striker.

> Borja doesn't deserve call up.

> Enrique should get call up.

Wut

Gladiator wrote:Borja Valero obviously deserves to be in the squad, he has played more regularly and consistently than Thiago this season. But for Callejon not to be there leaves me perplexed. In the majority of times he has been given a chance this season, he has made a meaningful contribution. The strikes department isn't even that important, to be honest, as Spain are the only national team in the world who don't rely on a lone striker.

I agree with you that Callejon can make a contribution but there is a sense he may not be ready yet.

He'll get his chance in the future for sure though and a Euro call up is not impossible.

Gladiator wrote:Borja Valero obviously deserves to be in the squad, he has played more regularly and consistently than Thiago this season. But for Callejon not to be there leaves me perplexed. In the majority of times he has been given a chance this season, he has made a meaningful contribution. The strikes department isn't even that important, to be honest, as Spain are the only national team in the world who don't rely on a lone striker.

Yep Callejon deserves to be called up for this friendly at least. He has earned it and has definitely been better than Negredo this season. He will only be a bench player anyway.

Because Zeal, Enrique has been one of the best fullbacks in Europe this season.

Valero doesnt even perform for Villarreal ffs, (INB4 Passing stats)......

The only reason you hype him is because he's a madrid product simple as.

I do agree Callejon should go tho, they need someone to stretch the defence with pace and movement and without Pedro he is probably the next best choice.

Considering Pedro's diabolical form he doesnt deserve a call up.

When Negredo is focused and playing well he can be extremely hard to stop.

Definitely Borja has been performing at a high level and deserves to be there instead of Carzola if we are going to judge by performances of past 2 seasons.Thiago inclusion is for the future.

And Enrique ,average player who has done shat at all.

too many rbs i think, iraola, arbeloa , ramos.. sure arbeloa can play lb but i think vdb would be better served with conventional lb

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Because Zeal, Enrique has been one of the best fullbacks in Europe this season.

Valero doesnt even perform for Villarreal ffs, (INB4 Passing stats)......

The only reason you hype him is because he's a madrid product simple as.

I do agree Callejon should go tho, they need someone to stretch the defence with pace and movement and without Pedro he is probably the next best choice.

Considering Pedro's diabolical form he doesnt deserve a call up.

1) We will never agree on Botja and Enrique

2) Callegol is actually more comfortable cutting in, he's closer in style to Villa than Pedro. However if Vicente Del God tells him to stay wide he'll stay wide.

Adit wrote:Definitely Borja has been performing at a high level and deserves to be there instead of Carzola if we are going to judge by performances of past 2 seasons.Thiago inclusion is for the future.

And Enrique ,average player who has done shat at all.

Yh an extremely high level, so high that Villarreal despite having the almighty Borja are struggling to stay up

Yh Shat all, best LB in the PL over the last 2 seasons, part of the best defence in the league for the majority of the season

Definitely shat all

"Valero doesnt even perform for Villarreal "

I urge you to watch villarreal instead of spewing shit

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Because Zeal, Enrique has been one of the best fullbacks in Europe this season.

Valero doesnt even perform for Villarreal ffs, (INB4 Passing stats)......

The only reason you hype him is because he's a madrid product simple as.

I do agree Callejon should go tho, they need someone to stretch the defence with pace and movement and without Pedro he is probably the next best choice.

Considering Pedro's diabolical form he doesnt deserve a call up.

I have been watching Villarreal lately, and he has been pretty good bar the trashing at mallorca.

He is genuinely good, and i think leading his team the way he is doing shows great mental resolve, and maturity at a level that deserves a call up. Even when he was brilliant last season, he barely got a look, VDB is biased like that, not sure why Thiago is in there, he is all the time in the world to take over the team later. How about rewarding those who are in their maturity and playing well now? even Arteta would deserve that call up if you ask me.

Enrique should definitely be included. For those of you who don't watch the Premier League on a regular basis, he has been the best left back in the league for the past two seasons, he is an absolute monster. However, Alba in all fairness, fits the system better, but that shouldn't really result in Enrique being excluded from the squad.

And the Newcastle fan who is talking absolute nonsense about Valero, please go and watch him before making assumptions. Valero has been Villarreal's best player this season. You are forgetting that they played a similar system to Barcelona's and Spain's so he would fit right in. Also, his passing is amazing, enough said.

Adit wrote:"Valero doesnt even perform for Villarreal "

I urge you to watch villarreal instead of spewing shit

I urge you to stop talking out of your ass, " Borja performing at a high level" yet with Cani, Senna and Bruno in midfield they still cant get results

BTW Passing stats =/= performance.

If that was the case Keita would be WC and i do watch Villarreal not every week but i do watch them.

Fact: You only rate him so highly because he's a Madrid product and does something that majority of Madrid players dont do.

Does'nt make him great and deserving of a call up tho, Bruno is more deserving than he is.

Valero has been Villarreal's best player yes but that is'nt saying much and his passing isnt any better than the players that have been called up.

Dude you like Enrique cause he played for Newcastle. It's the same thing



BorjitOoOoOooOOooOO



FFS he assisted Fernando f*cking Torres. HE HELPED TORRES SCORE A GOAL.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Adit wrote:"Valero doesnt even perform for Villarreal "

I urge you to watch villarreal instead of spewing shit

I urge you to stop talking out of your ass, " Borja performing at a high level" yet with Cani, Senna and Bruno in midfield they still cant get results

BTW Passing stats =/= performance.

If that was the case Keita would be WC and i do watch Villarreal not every week but i do watch them.

Fact: You only rate him so highly because he's a Madrid product and does something that majority of Madrid players dont do.

Does'nt make him great and deserving of a call up tho, Bruno is more deserving than he is.

Yeah the same cani and Senna
This is not 2008 any more,senna is shit.Cani is 32 and i would rather play granero ahead of him


Further proof you dont watch Villarreal enough this season

And who said he is great because of his passing stats alone?

He has been by far the best player for them this season.

Your Senna and Cani cant even play a decent half let alone they playing great with them

I dont rate him because he is madrid product,if it was the case i wouldve been supportive of Negredo call up,which im not.

cani and senna? lawl. they have been very underwhelming in the la liga campaign this season

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Adit wrote:"Valero doesnt even perform for Villarreal "

I urge you to watch villarreal instead of spewing shit

I urge you to stop talking out of your ass, " Borja performing at a high level" yet with Cani, Senna and Bruno in midfield they still cant get results

BTW Passing stats =/= performance.

If that was the case Keita would be WC and i do watch Villarreal not every week but i do watch them.

Fact: You only rate him so highly because he's a Madrid product and does something that majority of Madrid players dont do.

Does'nt make him great and deserving of a call up tho, Bruno is more deserving than he is.

Valero has been Villarreal's best player yes but that is'nt saying much and his passing isnt any better than the players that have been called up.

Mole you need to get on watching the games. Senna is a joke now, and Cani is aging badly. The only relevant players of that team are Borja and Bruno, they consistently perform and the rest just tags along. As a team they are broken at so many level, and their defense

We talk about him because he is the only shining light in the sinking ship, and he is genuinely good.

There's a difference Zeal, Enrique has been one of best LB's in europe this season and only has Alba in front of him.

Borja has Thiago, Silva, Xavi, Iniesta, Alonso, Busquets in front of him

Yes Borja maybe a great passer and Villarreal's best player but look at the players infront of him and you will begin to understand why he doesnt get called up.

Because every single one of them are better than him

I realise Cani and Senna are not what they were, thats still no excuse considering where they are ffs......

They are close to relegation that europe ffs.

Also Adit read, i said you like him because he's a madrid product who keeps the ball.......

But doesnt mean he's good enough to be called up for Spain.

Why call up Borja who isnt the future nor present?

He isnt even close to the players in front of him and at 27, by the time the likes of Xavi, Iniesta are done, he will be done too.

There is no doubt in my mind he wouldnt get this hype if not a Madrid product. Thats not to say he isnt a good player, he is, but the hype really should be toned down.

Of course he plays more football than Thiago, but Thiago isnt deprived of gametime so its not like its a situation where Borja is being dismissed for someone who rarely plays.

Playing more football than someone doesnt mean you should automatically be called up ahead of them.

I dont get the "on this seasons form" Thaigo shouldnt be called up, he has been better than Cesc in the midfield, his performances have been great.

My opinion.

So what about calling players that are in their prime and doing all the right things to be in the National team?

Even if Thiago is the future, there is no urgency to call him now. I simply think based on the way he has thrived to lead Villarreal, he has earned his call.

Im not shocked tho, VDB is biased like that. At least he dumped Albiol and Torres, which makes me happy enough.

Mole, actually watch a game before you make assumptions, your opinions are laughable. Senna and Cani have been poor and degraded in quality over the past few seasons, it's a joke that you mention their names alongside Bruno and Valero.

Gotta say the accusations of bias are funny.

Borja is good. If he got a call it would be well deserved. Bias has nothing to do with it ffs.